International 'Cerberus' Heatwave Threatens to Break Records in Southern Europe

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 585708
  • Start date Start date

Exxon CEO Rex Tillson recommended people should move to more livable climates big win for more northeast lol.

"

Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with ‘shocking skill and accuracy’ starting in the 1970s​

Projections created internally by ExxonMobil starting in the late 1970s on the impact of fossil fuels on climate change were very accurate, even surpassing those of some academic and governmental scientists, according to an analysis published Thursday in Science by a team of Harvard-led researchers. Despite those forecasts, team leaders say, the multinational energy giant continued to sow doubt about the gathering crisis.
In “Assessing ExxonMobil’s Global Warming Projections,” researchers from Harvard and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research show for the first time the accuracy of previously unreported forecasts created by company scientists from 1977 through 2003. The Harvard team discovered that Exxon researchers created a series of remarkably reliable models and analyses projecting global warming from carbon dioxide emissions over the coming decades. Specifically, Exxon projected that fossil fuel emissions would lead to 0.20 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade, with a margin of error of 0.04 degrees — a trend that has been proven largely accurate.
“This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company’s climate projections, the first time we’ve been able to put a number on what they knew,” said Geoffrey Supran, lead author and former research fellow in the History of Science at Harvard. “What we found is that between 1977 and 2003, excellent scientists within Exxon modeled and predicted global warming with, frankly, shocking skill and accuracy only for the company to then spend the next couple of decades denying that very climate science.”"
 
Just got good news mostly NOAA just predicted another warmer winter to hotter temps for the Northeast. Downside more rain vs snow in the Northeast. I also myself predicted acceleration of stronger storms hitting Southern States not happy about it but hurricanes will increase in frequency an potentially hitting many more areas.

I myself welcome my hotter days overlords. My property values will climb from this change.

It's an El Nino year. I didn't nead NOAA to tell me that. I hate winter but it's hard to not think of all the damage warmer winters could do where people, plants, and animals, even industries, count on a good long freeze and snow cover.
 

Why would the lie about this?


It’s always been hot AF in phoenix..

I have a registered weather station on my property. I’ve noticed this year that reported temps have been direct sun temperatures. The historic standard has been shade, 6’ above the ground.
Last year they were publishing surface temps. It was exposed in Italy(?) but was quickly tamped down in our news cycle.
I lived in phoenix in the 90’s and workers would record sun temps to get their “heat pay”. High 120’s was pretty common, 131 was the highest I’ve seen with my own eyes. Phoenix was way smaller at that time..
With the heat island effect I’d imagine it is a hot mf’er these days..
 
Why would the lie about this?


It’s always been hot AF in phoenix..

I have a registered weather station on my property. I’ve noticed this year that reported temps have been direct sun temperatures. The historic standard has been shade, 6’ above the ground.
Last year they were publishing surface temps. It was exposed in Italy(?) but was quickly tamped down in our news cycle.
I lived in phoenix in the 90’s and workers would record sun temps to get their “heat pay”. High 120’s was pretty common, 131 was the highest I’ve seen with my own eyes. Phoenix was way smaller at that time..
With the heat island effect I’d imagine it is a hot mf’er these days..
On one hand, they said for the month of September, and there was only one entry on the list on that page and it was from 1950.

On the other hand, the measured temp on that occasion was 118. I suspect it has to do with measurement methods or source of the measurements rather than an error.

@Deorum what's your take?
 
Why would the lie about this?


It’s always been hot AF in phoenix..

I have a registered weather station on my property. I’ve noticed this year that reported temps have been direct sun temperatures. The historic standard has been shade, 6’ above the ground.
Last year they were publishing surface temps. It was exposed in Italy(?) but was quickly tamped down in our news cycle.
I lived in phoenix in the 90’s and workers would record sun temps to get their “heat pay”. High 120’s was pretty common, 131 was the highest I’ve seen with my own eyes. Phoenix was way smaller at that time..
With the heat island effect I’d imagine it is a hot mf’er these days..
On one hand, they said for the month of September, and there was only one entry on the list on that page and it was from 1950.

On the other hand, the measured temp on that occasion was 118. I suspect it has to do with measurement methods or source of the measurements rather than an error.

@Deorum what's your take?

I was actually out in the mid-day sun for a fair few hours doing yard work and grilling for my daughter's b-day. As someone who lives in Phoenix and is particularly well conditioned to its summer temps: my mind and body say ain't no way. A legit 115 and up is absolutely searing and hostile to human life; it kicks your ass no matter who you are, regardless of the shape you're in or how well hydrated your body is. The brain says, "GTFO, Now!" repeatedly and it was not that yesterday, although definitely well above the norm and very unwelcome for late September. I would've guessed like 108, tbh. 2023 was surreal (even for PHX), and those numbers felt legit. Holie Shit, that was absurd. 2024 is just dragging longer.

 
Time for entrepreneurial Sherbrothers and Shersisters to start marketing outdoor thermometers with a "proximity to death" scale advising people to get the f00k inside within a certain time!
 
On one hand, they said for the month of September, and there was only one entry on the list on that page and it was from 1950.

On the other hand, the measured temp on that occasion was 118. I suspect it has to do with measurement methods or source of the measurements rather than an error.

@Deorum what's your take?
So, not a record.
 
Exxon CEO Rex Tillson recommended people should move to more livable climates big win for more northeast lol.

"

Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with ‘shocking skill and accuracy’ starting in the 1970s​

Projections created internally by ExxonMobil starting in the late 1970s on the impact of fossil fuels on climate change were very accurate, even surpassing those of some academic and governmental scientists, according to an analysis published Thursday in Science by a team of Harvard-led researchers. Despite those forecasts, team leaders say, the multinational energy giant continued to sow doubt about the gathering crisis.
In “Assessing ExxonMobil’s Global Warming Projections,” researchers from Harvard and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research show for the first time the accuracy of previously unreported forecasts created by company scientists from 1977 through 2003. The Harvard team discovered that Exxon researchers created a series of remarkably reliable models and analyses projecting global warming from carbon dioxide emissions over the coming decades. Specifically, Exxon projected that fossil fuel emissions would lead to 0.20 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade, with a margin of error of 0.04 degrees — a trend that has been proven largely accurate.
“This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company’s climate projections, the first time we’ve been able to put a number on what they knew,” said Geoffrey Supran, lead author and former research fellow in the History of Science at Harvard. “What we found is that between 1977 and 2003, excellent scientists within Exxon modeled and predicted global warming with, frankly, shocking skill and accuracy only for the company to then spend the next couple of decades denying that very climate science.”"
- My beloved tokusatsu Spielvan predicted that in 1987.

We didnt learn anything, we live in a gigantic sphere, but with limited resources. Even the japaneses with their wale hunting.
 
It’s a record high for the 28th of September.
Does this really need to be explained?
Russia chief apologist lilelvis needs to fill the void with missinformation. Just a slight change an it's fake news am I right MAGA?
 
- My beloved tokusatsu Spielvan predicted that in 1987.

We didnt learn anything, we live in a gigantic sphere, but with limited resources. Even the japaneses with their wale hunting.
Not sure what whale hunting has to do with the topic other then whaling ships pollute I guess?
 
It's almost October and I'm just putting the pool away in the garage today. Thank you global warming.
 
Time for entrepreneurial Sherbrothers and Shersisters to start marketing outdoor thermometers with a "proximity to death" scale advising people to get the f00k inside within a certain time!
Be careful out there.

100+ temps in October are uncivilized, lol. But this Summer honestly hasn't been too bad, mostly because I've frequently bounced out of town for days and weeks at a time up into the high elevation national forests. There's a general misconception about Arizona being an utterly barren, blistering desert -- but it's only true for the bottom third of the state. Phoenix is nestled down in a large basin at around 1,085 ft above sea level but Payson (5,100 ft), Prescott (5,300 ft), Flagstaff (6,820 ft) are all reached within two hours or less and surrounded by beautiful, dense pine forests and lakes. I was up on North Rim of the Grand Canyon and Kaibab NF (9,200 ft!) this year when the temps hit 118 over the 4th of July. It was a glorious, breezy mid-70s with chilly nights.
 
100+ temps in October are uncivilized, lol. But this Summer honestly hasn't been too bad, mostly because I've frequently bounced out of town for days and weeks at a time up into the high elevation national forests. There's a general misconception about Arizona being an utterly barren, blistering desert -- but it's only true for the bottom third of the state. Phoenix is nestled down in a large basin at around 1,085 ft above sea level but Payson (5,100 ft), Prescott (5,300 ft), Flagstaff (6,820 ft) are all reached within two hours or less and surrounded by beautiful, dense pine forests and lakes. I was up on North Rim of the Grand Canyon and Kaibab National Forest (9,200 ft!) this year when the temps hit 118 over the 4th of July. It was a glorious, breezy mid-70s with chilly nights.

Kebab National Forest??? Must visit!

Sorry, that was not my only take from this informative post I swear!
 

PHOENIX (AZFamily) — The record-breaking heat at the start of fall is bringing out a lot of different emotions in people.

Despite the disappointment about the temps, plenty of people were out and about on a September Sunday in Phoenix. Many told Arizona’s Family they intended to stay well-hydrated and in shady spots. Living in the desert, one can expect to deal with hot temperatures. But it’s never been this hot this late in the year.

“It’s ridiculous. I’m about to move up north for good,” said Cody Willsey, one of the people Arizona’s Family crews spoke with Sunday afternoon. “Normally, this time of the year, I’d say it’s still warm all the way up until Halloween, but it’s normally under 100 or at 100.”

Heat relief efforts around the county and in Phoenix were originally supposed to end on Sept. 30 for the year. The Maricopa Association of Governments is extending its Heat Relief Network map to Oct. 31. The map shows the active locations of water, cooling, and donation sites throughout the county.

The City of Phoenix is also keeping open the 24/7 respite center at Burton Barr Central Library through Oct. 7 and operating all other cooling centers and hydration stations during normal business hours through Oct. 7.
 
Back
Top