I don't see what makes catch more painful than BJJ? Training at a competition BJJ School with people gunning for world titles hurts a lot more than the idiots down the road who have no grappling real experience but opened a "catch wrestling" club. Mainly because they literally all have nothing for me.
Alot of the dick moves that cause pain, such as grinding your elbow into places you shouldnt can be found by many a white belt at BJJ gyms.
In regards to the intensity of training I doubt any catch gym trains harder than the top BJJ gyms that actually have real world class athletes, not amateurs like Kris The Fraud.
Catch might have more stand up but any BJJ school worth a damn starts from the feet.
I love CACC, but I hate the whole douche vibe its wannabe practitioners give that it is "harder" than BJJ or that BJJ is "soft". Yes, Barnett says it to promote himself, but that doesnt mean its true at all.
Those idiots that opened a catch gym in my town talk on facebook about how destructive and painful catch is and how soft BJJ is. I met these guys once at a seminar and I (amongst others) destroyed them pretty bad. I don't see how them rolling amongst themselves somehow got more intense than athletic competitor purples and above beating the crap out of them. Its funny...They claim they don't do BJJ because they are only about "real street fighting" yet they couldnt stop me taking them down and knee riding them. Dickheads.
I'd like to get the flaming done right away so I'll start with: Ur TeH GeYzOr, Why are you so mean!?, But you're just wrong because you're a "__" hugger, My penis is not THAT flaccid!, and my favorite Ken Shamrock insult, "Jerk Bitch"
Ok. Now that that's put aside I'll shed some light on a few things.
The single most important part of what you said is this "the idiots down the road who have no grappling real experience but opened a 'catch wrestling' club"
Anything done by idiots with no experience shouldn't be taken with any validity at all. There are far, FAR too many out there opening schools and/or claiming the style of Catch Wrestling to try and stand out and be different yet they haven't the abilities, training, or experience to be masters of anything. I can see where the "We're so tough. Catch is TOUGH like a Hefty bag and BJJ is WIMPY" stuff would get under someone's skin. I know because all of this bluster and bullshit with nothing to back it up using the name of Catch get's under MY skin more than likely anyone else's.
I'd bet there aren't many Catch schools that train as hard or harder than a full blown competition minded BJJ school. Likely because most Catch schools aren't competing and many don't haven't produced any athletes of note.
I came up with the phrase "The Violent Art" in an interview in Japan because I was being asked how CACC was different from BJJ. Instead of giving a long technical and philosophical comment about how they differed I said that instead. Jiu-Jitsu is the "Gentle Way" and CACC is the anti-jj it is quite different in it's concepts and philosophies/applications and "The Violent Art" fit perfectly.
It isn't just promotion though my friend, CACC is more painful and rougher than BJJ in general. BJJ doesn't train pain holds nor using pain and pressure to set up your opponent; grinding pressure from rides to exhaust people; let alone allow you to touch/attack the face/jaw, use neck/jaw locks or many leg locks. In my personal experience BJJ is a softer style in comparison than Catch but it's isn't soft and fluffy.
But it isn't about "dick moves that cause pain, such as grinding your elbow into places you shouldnt" there is an proper application and strategy to how these thing are employed. If you were training at a quality CACC gym you'd understand. Plus besides eyes, groins, and buttholes why should there be a place your elbow shouldn't be used on?
The problem though is finding that legit Catch Wrestling gym with real competitors and quality teaching.
