Can We Admit That the UFC is Screwing Movsar Evloev?

[RockyLockridge]

Thats exactly what happened before UFC270 and im 99% sure Dreyga knows this but he just decided to lie to underline his argument and agenda. Thats what the bathtubwater-Brigade does since 2018.

Ive seen so many of them lie about facts, twist them around and when pointed out they ignore it and dont respond in a thread they are still active for a while and then 2 weeks later the same bastard spreads the very same lie and when you point it out again they ignore it again.

They are honestly worse than Conor fans at this point. Conor fans were at least half joking these folks are dead serious

 

[xhaydenx]

Lopes is 5-0 since they fought against progressively better competition. Evloev has 2 fights and only 3 more fights in the UFC despite being there 4 years longer than Lopes.

Lopes is getting the fight because he actually fights regularly and is finishing top guys.
Evleov is scraping through in the most boring fashion, doesn't fight enough to stay relevant and keeps getting passed over for the new exciting fighter, who says yes when asked to fight.

If he went out there and smashed Sterling he would of gotten this shot, but instead he cruised his way to another decision.

Come on, bro lol

Lopes is not finishing top guys. Since losing to Movsar he fought Sabatini, Tucker, Youseff, Ige, and Ortega.

None of those are top guys and Ige and Ortega are the best of that lot and he didn't finish them. He only finished those lesser 3. Ortega ain't a top guy either. He's had two wins in 7 years and one was against never that good Korean Zombie, and the other was against no cardio Yair.

Movsar isn't scraping through in his fights. They're boring for sure, but he's still UDing everything except Nik Lentz

His activity is a problem but that's about it.

And Lopes cruised to decisions against Ortega and Ige as well. He was even looking bad in that 3rd against 4 hours notice Ige.

 

[Portland8242]

If your style is taking someone down, holding them in half guard or full guard, and doing just enough activity to prevent the ref from standing you up, with absolutely ZERO intention of hurting your damage your opponent, and you only fight once a year - you are genuinely stupid at this point if you think the UFC is gonna go out their way to help you/give you opportunities.

Mohammed Mokaev was the other guy with this fighting style and the UFC didn't even give a shit that he was a top-ranked contender.

Don't be shocked if Movsar gets cut by the UFC. Seems they're getting increasingly less tolerant of these fighters.

 

[Portland8242]

Movsar isn't scraping through in his fights. They're boring for sure, but he's still UDing everything except Nik Lentz

He literally "scraped through" Aljo and Allen (I still have him losing that Allen fight too).

 

[Senbonzakura]

Only 1 person with a sticky decision style of fighting was ever in the UFCs good graces and that's GSP. Of course he is getting done dirty it's a bit obvious

 

[moosaev]

He is not getting screwed its just mma. Boring fighters have to do three times as much to get to the top.

Evloev is not neccesarily the most exciting fighter but he's not a boring fighter either, his fights with Aljo, Lopes, and Arnold Allen were all excellent and exciting fights. He's def more entertaining than Merab stylistically, at least Evloev has interesting grappling and doesn't just wall stall and spam takedowns like Merab.

 

[moosaev]

you guys are so quick to fucking complain on the behalf of another man it's insane.

Illa just vacated the title, This fight is in ramadan window so it's not like Evolev would take it anyway. no food has been taken from his mouth, He'll likely fight the winner of this fight in august/septemeber or possibly AD in october just shut up about it already.

Ankalaev is fighting in Ramadan, don't assume Evloev wouldn't have done the same.

 

[moosaev]

Fights in ramadan, Evloev would have said no. so the show goes on. Kinda just makes sense that lopes gets it.

Ankalaev is fighting during Ramadan. You're not a mind reader, you don't know what Evloev would've done.

 

[moosaev]

He literally "scraped through" Aljo and Allen (I still have him losing that Allen fight too).

Aljo and Allen fights were both very entertaining, as was his Lopes fight. People have to decide what they want from Evloev, he's beaten good fighters in exciting fights, who cares if they were close? We gonna penalize him for that?

 

[RockyLockridge]

Ankalaev is fighting during Ramadan. You're not a mind reader, you don't know what Evloev would've done.

Yes I do, he's not going to do a training camp in Ramadan. Anakalev would not have either his fight is the first week of Ramadan, at which point people are cutting weight and no longer hard sparing

 

[rorschach51]

I don't even remember a boring fight with him. Good fight with Sterling, Allen, Lopes, even when he was fighting unranked guys it was not boring
He's a grappler, not a striker for sure but not a boring one
I don't get how you can like Colby's style but not Evloev
At least Strickland is a boxer, you can like his style and dislike Evloev's wrestling-to-grappling style but it doesn't make sense to find Colby entertaining but not Evloev

Was just coming to post this, for my money his fight vs Sterling was my favorite/most entertaining on that card up to that point.

Good post.

 

[rorschach51]

Aljo and Allen fights were both very entertaining, as was his Lopes fight. People have to decide what they want from Evloev, he's beaten good fighters in exciting fights, who cares if they were close? We gonna penalize him for that?

Not to mention Aljo was a UFC champion, it was a close fight but a clear win for Evloev.

 

[maximus__]

Come on, bro lol

Lopes is not finishing top guys. Since losing to Movsar he fought Sabatini, Tucker, Youseff, Ige, and Ortega.

None of those are top guys and Ige and Ortega are the best of that lot and he didn't finish them. He only finished those lesser 3. Ortega ain't a top guy either. He's had two wins in 7 years and one was against never that good Korean Zombie, and the other was against no cardio Yair.

Movsar isn't scraping through in his fights. They're boring for sure, but he's still UDing everything except Nik Lentz

His activity is a problem but that's about it.

And Lopes cruised to decisions against Ortega and Ige as well. He was even looking bad in that 3rd against 4 hours notice Ige.

One of Mosvar's wins is Ige... The Ige that he fought was on a 2 fight skid, looking terrible at the time.

The Ige that Lopes fought was 3-1, had a full camp and didn't cut weight compared to Lopes who did and then fought at a catch weight.
Lopes win over Ige is great. They talk about Ige being a bad ass on a few hours notice, but Lopes is the real hero in that one.
He did that with 2 weeks notice initially, cut the weight required for his first fight and then took a guy who was in camp going into his recovery period before his fight.
The Ige he fought was a full camp Ige, who never had to cut weight, vs Lopes who had no camp, used his 2 weeks to cut weight for no reason and then fought a completely different guy that day.


Arnold Allen and Aljo are great wins. He scraped through those fights on control time. He has 3 good wins, to Lopes's 2 and a win over Lopes, that many think he lost.
29-28 for all these decisions with Evleov just having the edge in wrestling whilst not really doing anything to finish the fight with it.
The difference is 5 wins to 2, both have similar rankings and Lopes being exciting in his fights.

VS Lopes who is hunting hard for finishes in all his fights, putting people in danger and quite regularly people are getting saved by the bell when he doesn't get that finish with them.

Who do you think they are going to reward in this scenario with a title shot? The guy with two fights in 2 years or the guy with 5 fights?
Evleov has a 9 fight streak but it's over a 5 year period. He loses all his momentum because the next shiny star racks up wins, whilst he sits on the sidelines.

 

[usernamee]

Come on, bro lol

Lopes is not finishing top guys. Since losing to Movsar he fought Sabatini, Tucker, Youseff, Ige, and Ortega.

None of those are top guys and Ige and Ortega are the best of that lot and he didn't finish them. He only finished those lesser 3. Ortega ain't a top guy either. He's had two wins in 7 years and one was against never that good Korean Zombie, and the other was against no cardio Yair.

Movsar isn't scraping through in his fights. They're boring for sure, but he's still UDing everything except Nik Lentz

His activity is a problem but that's about it.

And Lopes cruised to decisions against Ortega and Ige as well. He was even looking bad in that 3rd against 4 hours notice Ige.

With the title being vacated they need to make sure they put on a great fight to create new interest in the FW division. Makes much more sense to have wild banger Lopes in there than Movsar, at this point of time.

 

[mkess101]

Not to mention Aljo was a UFC champion, it was a close fight but a clear win for Evloev.

Wasn't clear. It absolutely was a fight that could've gone either way. Zero issue with Evloev winning but that was NOT clear.

 

[markys00]

Incoming deluge of pro wrestling fans - many of whom also support Colby and Strickland, the most boring fighters in the world, getting repeat title shots - to tell you that Movsar is boring.

Rent free

 

[rorschach51]

Wasn't clear. It absolutely was a fight that could've gone either way. Zero issue with Evloev winning but that was NOT clear.

Was to me.

 

[mkess101]

Was to me.

Sterling more sig strikes, more TD's, more reversals and more control time. Me thinks you likely have a bias that makes it "clear to you".

Again, I dont have a problem with Evloev getting the nod, but saying it was "clear" says you either don't fully understand what you're seeing or that you let your bias color your judgment.

 

[xhaydenx]

One of Mosvar's wins is Ige... The Ige that he fought was on a 2 fight skid, looking terrible at the time.

The Ige that Lopes fought was 3-1, had a full camp and didn't cut weight compared to Lopes who did and then fought at a catch weight.
Lopes win over Ige is great. They talk about Ige being a bad ass on a few hours notice, but Lopes is the real hero in that one.
He did that with 2 weeks notice initially, cut the weight required for his first fight and then took a guy who was in camp going into his recovery period before his fight.
The Ige he fought was a full camp Ige, who never had to cut weight, vs Lopes who had no camp, used his 2 weeks to cut weight for no reason and then fought a completely different guy that day.


Arnold Allen and Aljo are great wins. He scraped through those fights on control time. He has 3 good wins, to Lopes's 2 and a win over Lopes, that many think he lost.
29-28 for all these decisions with Evleov just having the edge in wrestling whilst not really doing anything to finish the fight with it.
The difference is 5 wins to 2, both have similar rankings and Lopes being exciting in his fights.

VS Lopes who is hunting hard for finishes in all his fights, putting people in danger and quite regularly people are getting saved by the bell when he doesn't get that finish with them.

Who do you think they are going to reward in this scenario with a title shot? The guy with two fights in 2 years or the guy with 5 fights?
Evleov has a 9 fight streak but it's over a 5 year period. He loses all his momentum because the next shiny star racks up wins, whilst he sits on the sidelines.

Oh, bro, I know why they're rewarding Lopes over Movsar. I would be giving the shot to him too if I were in charge.

How are you saying Ige had a full camp against Lopes? He didn't have any camp. I'm not saying Lopes wasn't a badass in that fight himself either. He definitely was.

And Ige was 3-1 coming into that fight, but his wins were against Landwehr, Damon Jackson, and Fili. None of those guys are really any good. And like, you only went back 4 fights. He lost 3 straight before that to higher level guys than he usually beats.

 

[rorschach51]

Sterling more sig strikes, more TD's, more reversals and more control time. Me thinks you likely have a bias that makes it "clear to you".

Again, I dont have a problem with Evloev getting the nod, but saying it was "clear" says you either don't fully understand what you're seeing or that you let your bias color your judgment.

Disagree, Evloev did more when in superior positions then Sterling did, during Sterling's control time/dominant positions he did little but ride it out. Evloev remained offensive when in those situations. Not really a fan of either guy so no bias, just thought Evloev did more to clearly win what was ultimately a position battle.