Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.12

[LuchaBear]

Seemed like a hard to control situation, All thor could do was aim at Thanos somehow

Get that big gut / target area

Thor fucked up by hesitating and trying to taste revenge instead of immediately grabbing and restriking with the axe

also we saw Bucky full on shoot thanos with guns to no effect

Bucky was a bitch. He's a super soldier and he was no different than a normal soldier. All he did was use a lame gun.

What happened to you Bucky?

 

[Clippy]

Bucky was a bitch. He's a super soldier and he was no different than a normal soldier. All he did was use a lame gun.

What happened to you Bucky?

Not everyone can be as dumb as Captain America and try to beat an army of aliens with their fists and a piece of metal pretending to be a sheild

Projection weapons are pivotal against 4,000 4 armed fucks

 

[chickenluver]

Bucky was a bitch. He's a super soldier and he was no different than a normal soldier. All he did was use a lame gun.

What happened to you Bucky?

He's not a super solider though. He was trained as an elite assassin and has the metal arm which has much greater strength than a human arm, but he never got any super solider serum or anything like that. He's closer to Black Widow or Hawkeye than to Captain America.

 

[Clippy]

He's not a super solider though. He was trained as an elite assassin and has the metal arm which has much greater strength than a human arm, but he never got any super solider serum or anything like that. He's closer to Black Widow or Hawkeye than to Captain America.

I thought they suped him up

 

[chickenluver]

I thought they suped him up

With what super serum? The only serum ever made was used first on Red Skull and then on Steve Rogers.

It doesn't happen. The metal arm is the only augment they give him, the brainwashing and memory wiping the way to control him.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I hope Vision doesn't come back. He's such a dork and why does he feel pain? If he comes back, I hope it's really Ultron in disguise.

If Vision is indeed sentient then you can assume he has developed an appreciation for his existence. So anything that threatens his existence could be construed as fear to him and felt as something akin to pain.

Mr Data used to explain this that while he was not afraid per se, he did not want to die or cease to exist.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

With what super serum? The only serum ever made was used first on Red Skull and then on Steve Rogers.

It doesn't happen. The metal arm is the only augment they give him, the brainwashing and memory wiping the way to control him.

So you didn't see the SS serum packs in Civil War?

 

[heavyarms21]

With what super serum? The only serum ever made was used first on Red Skull and then on Steve Rogers.

It doesn't happen. The metal arm is the only augment they give him, the brainwashing and memory wiping the way to control him.

Hydra basically had their own stuff. They pumped up Bucky for years. It was unstable though which is basically why they had to control him . They pretty much pumped him with their serum , made him do missions wiped his mind clean and cryogenically freeze him , rinse and repeat.

 

[chickenluver]

So you didn't see the SS serum packs in Civil War?

Oh that's right. I always forget that they teased that group of out of control super soldiers, since they ended up not being important at all. Still kind of conflicted about that.

edit: the case that Bucky stole from the Starks had five vials in it so they must have all gone to the new super soldiers.

There seems to be some difference of opinion online concerning if Bucky was injected by Zola in 1943, just before Steve found him on what looked like an operating table, some people think this is how he survived the fall from the train. I had assumed that was the beginning of his brainwashing. Could be possible he received a super serum then, but how would Zola have been able to make another serum without Erskine's research? The serum that Erskine himself had made was not ready, causing Red Skull to become disfigured, then the better serum that was used on Steve was lost, so how could Zola have been able recreate a better serum than what was used on Red Skull in such a short time? When they create the group of super soldiers that was decades later, and after Zola and Hydra had embedded themselves into Shield.

 

[chickenluver]

Hydra basically had their own stuff. They pumped up Bucky for years. It was unstable though which is basically why they had to control him . They pretty much pumped him with their serum , made him do missions wiped his mind clean and cryogenically freeze him , rinse and repeat.

I thought he was unstable because his memories were coming back?

Can someone point out a scene where Bucky is injected with super serum or there is any mention of him receiving it?

 

[heavyarms21]

I thought he was unstable because his memories were coming back?

That maybe the case , but I'm inferring that Hydras serum wasn't perfect.

 

[chickenluver]

That maybe the case , but I'm inferring that Hydras serum wasn't perfect.

Do you think he was injected in 1943 before being rescued by Steve, or that it was only after the fall from the train and the long term capture by Hydra?

 

[Starck]

I hope Vision doesn't come back. He's such a dork and why does he feel pain? If he comes back, I hope it's really Ultron in disguise.

Thank you. Vision is the most overrated can in the series. Thanos's goons made him their bitch without even breaking a sweat.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Do you think he was injected in 1943 before being rescued by Steve, or that it was only after the fall from the train and the long term capture by Hydra?

Bucky was experimented by Zola before being rescued by Cap. The experiment's effects were not immediate and that's why it wasn't noticeable. Bucky's enhanced state was the reason why he survived the long fall to the icy river.

 

[Mike]

He's not a super solider though. He was trained as an elite assassin and has the metal arm which has much greater strength than a human arm, but he never got any super solider serum or anything like that. He's closer to Black Widow or Hawkeye than to Captain America.

He has the serum. That's how he overwhelmed a room full of people in Civil War.

 

[Mike]

Thank you. Vision is the most overrated can in the series. Thanos's goons made him their bitch without even breaking a sweat.

They had him get sneak attacked by a plot device sci fi weapon precisely because he's so powerful.

 

[GSP_37]

What badassery did Vision do in the comics? I had a feeling he was powerful due to turning into diamond density and phasing like Kitty Pryde into stuff/people and causing damage like that.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

They had him get sneak attacked by a plot device sci fi weapon precisely because he's so powerful.

It's kinda sad we didn't get the Black Order fleshed out. Marvel really expected people to have read Infinity to know who they were. While it definitely is a plot device in this movie, that blad is very capable of what it did to Vision. But, again, it wasn't fleshed out.

 

[LuchaBear]

Not everyone can be as dumb as Captain America and try to beat an army of aliens with their fists and a piece of metal pretending to be a sheild

Projection weapons are pivotal against 4,000 4 armed fucks

 

[LuchaBear]

This is what I was saying before. The MCU has done a terrible job in showing Bucky's strength and potential. Is he different than Cap or no? Is the strength just coming from the metal arm?

He was able to almost remove Stark's arc reactor with his hands.. that was awesome.