American scolastic folkstyle wrestling = a dying sport

I know he will not read. As well as not acknowledge the data. He’s rather predictable
 


One of the biggest problems with high school folk style wrestling is that every time a kid gets hurt in any way shape form or fashion they ban the technique in a "knee jerk" reaction based on fear

It won't be long before the only move that's legal is thumb wrestling

America has crawled deep inside of its own purse and is hiding behind the lipstick in fear that someone might get hurt

Meanwhile the rest of the world is as tough as ever

We are in free-fall as a nation and wrestling is just a symptom of a greater problem
 
jack36767 said:
I know he will not read. As well as not acknowledge the data. He’s rather predictable
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Gerald...why don't you pay attention to your girlfriend

I'm Just Not That Into You

I think it's time that you looked for another person to obsess over

Hopefully wheh folkstyle season starts back up he'll be too busy to ankle bite me

Just think of all that riding time you've accumulated over the years
 
-guerilla- said:
Gerald...why don't you pay attention to your girlfriend

I'm Just Not That Into You

I think it's time that you looked for another person to obsess over

Hopefully wheh folkstyle season starts back up he'll be too busy to ankle bite me
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Who are you talking about? Who is this Gerald? I’m sorry you’re tired of him but that’s not me. My name is Jared.
 
-guerilla- said:


One of the biggest problems with high school folk style wrestling is that every time a kid gets hurt in any way shape form or fashion they ban the technique in a "knee jerk" reaction based on fear

It won't be long before the only move that's legal is thumb wrestling

America has crawled deep inside of its own purse and is hiding behind the lipstick in fear that someone might get hurt

Meanwhile the rest of the world is as tough as ever

We are in free-fall as a nation and wrestling is just a symptom of a greater problem
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Oh look you actually finally are talking about one of the REAL problems ! There you go!!

Who’s a good boyyy?! Who’s a good booyy?? Gavin is! Yes he is! Yes he is! Good boy!

Does the good boy want a treat?
 
jack36767 said:
Oh look you actually finally are talking about one of the REAL problems ! There you go!!

Who’s a good boyyy?! Who’s a good booyy?? Gavin is! Yes he is! Yes he is! Good boy!

Does the good boy want a treat?
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Hitdafloor34 2.0 said:
Very valid points for sure,but it’s the first sport, and the true test of human combat without strikes.... maybe it’s just the places I take my son, but they’re lots of kids and they seem to be getting better in a different way... more technical, less tuff, but it’s a nice balance... I’m still more of an ol school gritty sweat suits saunas kind of guy...
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I hear you, the thought of a future without wrestling literally sickens me however i fully expect it to be a reality as we are 100% in control of corporate interests in modern america...

that combined with the SJW safespace mania of social media and it wont be long till the only combat sports that Americans can engage in are video games.
 
O MAN...i should have done my research!!

I have been arguing with this guy for weeks about wrestling and just never did the research into who he was!

3 matches one point!

Jared Prestly...this is the kid lecturing me on wrestling!





 
-guerilla- said:
I hear you, the thought of a future without wrestling literally sickens me however i fully expect it to be a reality as we are 100% in control of corporate interests in modern america...

that combined with the SJW safespace mania of social media and it wont be long till the only combat sports that Americans can engage in are video games.
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Wouldn’t that logic you’re using apply to if they wrestled freestyle and Greco too..

And seriously, asking a genuine question. You just “accepted” that you couldn’t “compete”?.. You improved them “that much” but accepted..
 
-guerilla- said:
O MAN...i should have done my research!!

I have been arguing with this guy for weeks about wrestling and just never did the research into who he was!

3 matches one point!

Jared Prestly...this is the kid lecturing me on wrestling!





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Lol you deliberately left out two matches I scored way more. I always have been honest. I was a solid but not great wrestler in the upper echelon in High school and college. Still more qualified and know more than you.

Considering where I started and where I ended up. I can’t complain. I also get to learn from some of the best coaches around. I actually evolve too. Oh and btw.. I beat multiple Kentucky state champs and placers in high school

Lol you took that long to look me up lol. That’s funny. You still only had 3-5 state qualifiers in.. Kentucky. Less than 3000 other wrestlers to compete against, and less than 70 schools. That’s barely half a division in Ohio
 
jack36767 said:
Wouldn’t that logic you’re using apply to if they wrestled freestyle and Greco too..

And seriously, asking a genuine question. You just “accepted” that you couldn’t “compete”?.. You improved them “that much” but accepted..
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jack36767 said:
Lol you deliberately left out two matches I scored way more. I always have been honest. I was a solid but not great wrestler in the upper echelon in High school and college. Still more qualified and know more than you.

Considering where I started and where I ended up. I can’t complain. I also get to learn from some of the best coaches around. I actually evolve too. Oh and btw.. I beat multiple Kentucky state champs and placers in high school

Lol you took that long to look me up lol. That’s funny. You still only had 3-5 state qualifiers in.. Kentucky. Less than 3000 other wrestlers to compete against, and less than 70 schools. That’s barely half a division in Ohio
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yeah...i "accepted" with a small handful of 2nd year wrestlers we were not gonna win state...lol

I was very proud of my kids...like i said Bulgaria will never defeat the USA...but they are amazing fighters.

sorry bro, your AWFUL at freestyle...you would be EATEN ALIVE by any decent international wrestler!

I can see the folk disease confusing you on the mat as you turn and bail instead of throwing a crotch or body lock roll thru counter to all those low single ankle picks you kept getting hit by
[TOTAL DEER IN HEADLIGHTS]...and dear load man SPRAWL!!!!

YOU NEVER SPRAWL FOR CRAP....

you really got manhandled in this one

WTF WAS that at 130...you just turtled up off that headlock and let him pin you head to the mat and run around for the takedown...it waqs like you just dropped like a dead fish!!! PITAFUL!!!!

at 152 you man changes levels and even puts his knee down and you grab the back of his head as he shoots in...as usual NO SPRAWL...no underhook...no body lock...you just get run over

and bro for sweet Jesus set up your shots...your just diving in like a 1st year wrestler and getting pinned to the mat!!

i will give you a few ACTUAL headlock turns on those POWDER PUFF folkie SOIBOIS you outpointed

DUDE...AVOID MMA...for gods sake, dont ever try MMA
 
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741 ...what a great example of "folki fog" that crotch lift was AWFUL

You had the lift but bailed out and went flat...

if you had wrestled freestyle instead of folkstyle most of your life you would have scored on that
 
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-guerilla- said:
yeah...i "accepted" with a small handful of 2nd year wrestlers we were not gonna win state...lol

I was very proud of my kids...like i said Bulgaria will never defeat the USA...but they are amazing fighters.

sorry bro, your AWFUL at freestyle...you would be EATEN ALIVE by any decent international wrestler!

I can see the folk disease confusing you on the mat as you turn and bail instead of throwing a crotch or body lock roll thru counter to all those low single ankle picks you kept getting hit by
[TOTAL DEER IN HEADLIGHTS]...and dear load man SPRAWL!!!!

YOU NEVER SPRAWL FOR CRAP....

you really got manhandled in this one

WTF WAS that at 130...you just turtled up off that headlock and let him pin you head to the mat and run around for the takedown...it waqs like you just dropped like a dead fish!!! PITAFUL!!!!

at 152 you man changes levels and even puts his knee down and you grab the back of his head as he shoots in...as usual NO SPRAWL...no underhook...no body lock...you just get run over

and bro for sweet Jesus set up your shots...your just diving in like a 1st year wrestler and getting pinned to the mat!!

i will give you a few ACTUAL headlock turns on those POWDER PUFF folkie SOIBOIS you outpointed

DUDE...AVOID MMA...for gods sake, dont ever try MMA
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I love how you left out the matches I threw a kid and the match where I head pinched and gutted a kid multiple times. My defense was awful that tournament. I actually am still frustrated with the coach that had forced me to stop Sitting the corner a month before. So I had been trying to master a completely new style of defense for a month. T

There was other factors at play but I don’t give excuses. I was told what I need to fix by qualified coaches.

You only coached 2 years there? You implied much longer. And again, 70 schools. Over Half of which are subpar coached.

It’s a pity 3 of the 5 matches on there are from one of my worst tournaments. But that’s life. I never embellished or lied. Or omitted. I’m actually am surprised

And I did train some mma. My issue wasn’t being “tough” enough. I wasn’t athletic enough to avoid damage enough. I had accumulated a lot of concussions between fights, wrestling, and football. When the concussion got so bad I couldn’t go outside for 2.5 weeks.. I wasn’t really left with options.

Add in the fact my senior year I wrestled a National level schedule Only losing to Ohio multiple time placers and champs. Beat multiple place winners.. oh and a Kentucky state champ.( I beat several KY placers the year before).. on a “sprained ankle that turned it to be broken. Didn’t find out toll after season

Walked onto a DI team and earned a scholarship.

Suffered a lis franc fracture in middle of a match. Still finished.. and won the match

Wrestled 6 weeks on a torn ACL. Went 8-2. Including winning my first college open.. In Kentucky actually. I’m not worried about your opinion on my toughness. Considering by any realistic measure I shouldn’t have accomplished half of what I did. I’m not you. I don’t pick and choose when I want success to be relative. So I also don’t lie about what I did.

As far as technical knowledge and coaching. I wouldn’t have been given some of the chances I have been. I’m a far better coach than wrestler.

For all my faults and flaws, I haven’t misconstrued and ignored information or arguments. Haven’t been two faced. And I’m actually doing something to try and make kids tougher better men. I also don’t make excuses for what I haven’t accomplished yet as a coach. I also don’t exaggerate what I’ve done.

Btw if I had taken the Hardin County job. I would have been disappointed with anything less than 7 state qualifiers by year 2. It’s Kentucky. To get them to state. I would only have to get them in top the 20 percent vs the top 5% in a place like Ohio. Any other stare but Kentucky or Arkansas you might have a point. But considering facts. Nah
 
jack36767 said:
Lol you deliberately left out two matches I scored way more. I always have been honest. I was a solid but not great wrestler in the upper echelon in High school and college. Still more qualified and know more than you.

Considering where I started and where I ended up. I can’t complain. I also get to learn from some of the best coaches around. I actually evolve too. Oh and btw.. I beat multiple Kentucky state champs and placers in high school

Lol you took that long to look me up lol. That’s funny. You still only had 3-5 state qualifiers in.. Kentucky. Less than 3000 other wrestlers to compete against, and less than 70 schools. That’s barely half a division in Ohio
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Ohio wrestling is no joke for sure!!!! I would wrestle at osu summer camp for hs kids and my toughest full go’s were always kids from Ohio or Pennsylvania.... I remember as a sophomore wrestling a 3x Florida State champion, and beat the breaks off him... def in high school it for sure matters what state you wrestle from.... some are just levels better than others
 
Hitdafloor34 2.0 said:
Ohio wrestling is no joke for sure!!!! I would wrestle at osu summer camp for hs kids and my toughest full go’s were always kids from Ohio or Pennsylvania.... I remember as a sophomore wrestling a 3x Florida State champion, and beat the breaks off him... def in high school it for sure matters what state you wrestle from.... some are just levels better than others
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The competition dosnet really drop off per say here... yeah you may get a couple easy matches in sectionals, but after a round or two, it’s pretty much up for grabs To whoever can handle the task
 
Hitdafloor34 2.0 said:
Ohio wrestling is no joke for sure!!!! I would wrestle at osu summer camp for hs kids and my toughest full go’s were always kids from Ohio or Pennsylvania.... I remember as a sophomore wrestling a 3x Florida State champion, and beat the breaks off him... def in high school it for sure matters what state you wrestle from.... some are just levels better than others
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I used to get so angry about them having state titles and I didn’t. Then I realized that’s why I was better than them.

I’m still laughing because I wish he had posted the good matches. Oh well.

And to be fair, the kids that can train nationally it doesn’t matter as much where they are from. Regular High school kids. Different story
 
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