Alex Pereira still has a chance to become the #1 MMA GOAT, despite losses

[fries in the bag]

Strict conditions:
- knock out Ulberg, to formally clean out the 205 division
- knock out Khamzat at 205 (Khamzat wants to move up and superfight Alex)
- somehow moves down to 185 again (LOL) and knocks out Khamzat again
- moves up to HW and knocks out Tom, becoming the first and only 3 weight division ufc champ ever
- knocks out Jones, defeating the greatest mma fighter ever
- bonus: goes back in time to knock out fedor, because fuck it


After this, there would be no challenge left for him.
Unless Ngannou is still around, but Ngannou is basically retired in MMA.
- bonus: goes back in time to knock out fedor, because fuck it

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If these insanely difficult conditions are met, then he would be the best fighter ever, no questions asked.

- better than Fedor (Fedor had 2000s dominance but his average opponent was weaker than Jones/Tom/Khamzat)
- better than Jones (KO him)
- better than GSP (3 division > 2 division. GSP avenged both Matt Hamill and Matt Serra losses, but Alex also avenged Izzy and Magomed losses)
- better than Anderson Silva (Silva could still have better striking than Alex, but would not be a better overall mma fighter if Alex fulfills those conditions)
- better than Demetrious (lost to Cejudo.. but in all seriousness, Demetrious tried to win the belt at 135 but never succeeded)
- better than Khabib (29-0 is hard, but it's easier to stay undefeated if you don't take risks and become 3 division champ. imagine if khabib fought at 145 and 170, he would definitely get losses)

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

if he wants to be the super ultimate flawless goat fighter, he should submit and outwrestle khamzat, and jones, showing he is the most well rounded fighter in history

 

[fries in the bag]

if he wants to be the super ultimate flawless goat fighter, he should submit and outwrestle khamzat, and jones, showing he is the most well rounded fighter in history

i don't think it's physically possible
pereira has long limbs, which is not ideal for wrestling

 

[Mob69]

He is already 38. It's borderline impossible for Poatan to surpass the other GOAT candidates. The only way he could enter the conversation, in terms of accomplishments and body of work, is to become HW champion. That would constitute a unique achievement.

 

[World eater]

What a weird thread. SD full of nerds is normal, but this is a bit extreme, no?

 

[YourBoss]

You forgot about Welterweight and Lightweight. I think if he truly wants to be the goat he should clean out those aswell. Gonna be difficult with the weight but a true GOAT would find a way.

 

[AbominableJoman]

No way. His path to title shots was too easy.
Didn’t defend even once at mw which means he wasn’t a real champ. Then gets a title shot at lhw after a split decision for a vacant title. Now he wants a hw title shot without even a number one contender fight? Not GOAT material. This whole damn thing has been a ruse!

 

[humdizzle]

he would need to become a hw champ

there are too many holes to poke into his resume (accelerated title shot, ko by izzy, UD by ankalaev). weak 205 division.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I think he can eke his way to be in the top 10 of the all-time greatest MMA fighters. But nothing more than that.

 

[Nintendo 64]

Let's just enjoy his run as a scary Aztec warrior. Who needs another GOAT discussion? Watching the sport is way more fun without it.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Sounds like a long winded route.. I don't think dude needs to fight at MW ever again, especially if said MW says he wants to move up himself.

Simply move up and beat Jones or Tom and he's within the conversation.

 

[TheNewGame]

Prime Phil Davis mauls Pereira.

 

[ufc_vs_pride]

Nah hasn't even face pure grappler to even be called goat

 

[Hymen Crusher]

I think the 3rd belt would get him mentioned. But honestly he is super exciting but there are better fighters. He is really good though. But 205 Jones would smoke him and so would DC. Thats why he even with 3 belts he isnt better then some guys

 

[fries in the bag]

I think the 3rd belt would get him mentioned. But honestly he is super exciting but there are better fighters. He is really good though. But 205 Jones would smoke him and so would DC. Thats why he even with 3 belts he isnt better then some guys

the problem with this is mma math

if alex beats jones:

- you say dc beats alex
- dc > alex > jones > stipe > dc

which makes no sense.

how can alex be better than jones, and jones be better than stipe and dc, and stipe better than dc, but somehow dc better than alex

i think this is also why people like new matchups, to get rid of mma math doubt.

for example, alex has not beat reyes or oezdemir or rakic
but he doesn't need to, because alex ko'd jiri twice, and jiri ko'd those other guys

so it settles the mma math predicament

alex beating jones, means alex is better than all the opponents jones has beat.
it's like avengers infinity stones, where you collect all the opponents defeated previously

 

[Thy]

I mean, he's fun to watch, but he can be whatever u want in ur own mind if u like whackin off to him that hard.

 

[OriginMMA]

i don't think it's physically possible
pereira has long limbs, which is not ideal for wrestling

Uh Jon Jones?

 

[Ozze]

Should go to FW and beat prime Aldo as well, how bout that?

Sorry TS, Alex has no path which leads him to GOAT status.

 

[Deceasedxo]

ok

 

[andgonsil]

None the goats are goats from any other sport

Poatan dominated Glory's kickboxing and is considered one of the best

This speaks for itself