42 year old Stipe and ducking Ngannou and Aspinall. Can Jones have a HW legacy without the Aspinall fight??
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Jones didn’t duck Francis ….Francis left lol
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"41 year old" seems like a nickname now, i see it in every thread
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"It's taking me years and year to bulk up, I want to do it proper and be a real monster that's why I'm not going up to face Francis or Prime Stipe"
*Francis leaves after KOing Stipe*
"Okay I am now instantly ready to face a white belt, look how my bulk went check the gut."
Everyone who is anyone knows Jones ducked Francis and no amount of revisionist bollocks will change that. Jon priced himself out if the fight a year before by demanding $30 million base pay against Frank LMAO
It would be a bad look if he were to not fight Aspinall but Jon's legacy is set in stone.
He's one of the GOAT candidates along with GSP, Anderson, Aldo, Mighty Mouse and Fedor.
I also don't think not being able to fight Jon harms Aspinall.
Most people already think he beats Jones and if Jon retires while refusing to fight him, it just confirms it in most people's minds.
He's one of the GOAT candidates along with GSP, Anderson, Aldo, Mighty Mouse and Fedor.
I also don't think not being able to fight Jon harms Aspinall.
Most people already think he beats Jones and if Jon retires while refusing to fight him, it just confirms it in most people's minds.
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It's pretty much the same as GSP's MW legacy. At least GSP beat the real lineal champ to get the belt tho
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Heavyweight legacy? No. Beating a white belt and probably beating an old, shot, never my friend Stipe, does not make a legacy.
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Stipe will be 42 in 22 days. Lol.
Stipe isn't event he UFC HW GOAT.
Lost to Struve in 2012
Lost to JDS in 2014
Lost to DC in 2018
Lost to Francis in 2021
Stipe isn't event he UFC HW GOAT.
Lost to Struve in 2012
Lost to JDS in 2014
Lost to DC in 2018
Lost to Francis in 2021
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"It's taking me years and year to bulk up, I want to do it proper and be a real monster that's why I'm not going up to face Francis or Prime Stipe"
*Francis leaves after KOing Stipe*
"Okay I am now instantly ready to face a white belt, look how my bulk went check the gut."
Everyone who is anyone knows Jones ducked Francis and no amount of revisionist bollocks will change that. Jon priced himself out if the fight a year before by demanding $30 million base pay against Frank LMAO
Nobody knows that shit. It is your right to create whatever assumption or narrative you want but it does not make it a fact. Ngannou had a contract to fight jon jones twice and another opponent and did not sign his contract. He had a three fight contract that he negotiated and was cut from the UFC because he did not want to sign it, and wanted to box. Ngannou reneged on his contract that he put in place. Jon Jones signed his contract on the date he was supposed too and Ngannou did not and left. Both were asking for large paydays and good money. Ngannou mentioned that he could box after he finished his three fight deal but did not sign all together because he was asking for crazy shit that Dana white was not going to give him. Ngannou mentioned that jones was furious at him for not signing that contract.
Ngannou is also a white belt. He has 4 submission wins and Gane has 3 submission wins. The Gane fight was not a gimmie, some thought Gane was a tougher opponent because he was more elusive than Ngannou, and a better striker. It was not Ganes grappling that caused him the fight, he panicked and tapped quickly when jones locked in that guillotine choke. Same thing could have happened to Ngannou who is no better as jones is a far superior submission wrestler than both men.
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He also has wins over all those guys except Struve. And the last exception is only because he afterwards rocketed past Struve in rankings to a point where a rematch would have been nonsensical, so he never had the chance to avenge his loss.
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In the eyes of the (rightly) cynical fanship, yes. In his own ego-flattering mirror, no. And he'd rather Twitter-troll the shit out of the fans that will mock him for the lack of Tom's name in his record, than risk an Aspinall one-two breaking that mirror.
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If he isn't, then who is? Ngannou who lost to Derrick Lewis and also Stipe?
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DUCK, DUCK, GOOSE.
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He damn sure did duck Francis, Jon asked for an absurd amount of money (Wilder money Dana said) because of the "Danger" factor Francis presented. Jon knew damn well the UFC wasn't gonna pay him 30 million.
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So if Jones beats Stipe, Nganno, and Aspinal, do you give him permission to retire, or does he need to fight the next BIG THING or be accused of "ducking"? It sounds like he'll need to fight till he is Fedor's age to satisfy you.
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Jones was frightened of Francis' ground game...he knew he'd be submitted so he ducked him.
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He then proceeded to make a bunch of shit up
Jon spent 3 years "bulking up" to come in with a gut against Cyril. This is undeniable truth.
The three fight contract you mentioned is what Francis wanted not what he was offered.
I'm no Francis superfan, i'm on record here saying that him boxing AJ would be a disaster (to be fair i thought the same about the Fury fight but didnt expect him to come in fat and not caring) and called out his bullshit about "just doing this to benefit other fighters/get them bigger checks/get them health insurance" but anyone who follows the sport and is intellectually honest knows that Jon ducked the HW division for 3+ years and came up only when he had the single most stylistically advantageous matchup.
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