What effect will the Aspinall duck have on JBJ's legacy?

[Blastbeat]

It's actually a different scenario because Jones said he would defend against Stipe and then actually did.

GSP said he would defend against Whittaker and instead fucked off.

GSP also had widely publicized health issues. he probably wanted to defend but those issues prevented him from doing so, so he gave up the belt.
Jones got injured while training for Stipe, which delayed the fight further.
champs have relinquished or had the belt stripped in the past for injury. but not Jones.
so yes, its a different scenario.

 

[Lionheart7167]

Very little to be honest.
When you look back at fights, historically, you forget about the ducks and the fights that didn't happen.
Look at Floyd Mayweather. The dude never fought the best fighters OR he fought the best when they were already over the hill (De La Hoya, Manny) or still green (Canelo). Here we are only a few years removed and his legacy has only grown.
That's what will happen to Jones.
Picture this. Jones retires. Aspinall loses his next fight against a challenger, or maybe he defends once or twice and fizzles out. Will anyone care that they didn't fight then? Not really...aside from hardcore fans who will always bitch and moan.
Jones is in the record books, like it or not.

 

[Howard Moon]

What effect will the Aspinall duck have on JBJ's legacy?​

MMA is a fringe sport that almost nobody cares about. In 20 years, Down-Low Jonny will be a distant memory for a few people. There is no legacy on the line, just UFC-nerds arguing over trivia.

 

[Tito Tapped]

Absolutely none. Jones haters are prisoners of the moment.

Let us not forget 13 years ago when Dana went on a tirade after Jones refused a late notice replacement and blamed him for his inability to book a decent event.

You all want fighters rights.....until they exhibit them. Then it's fuck you fight whoever, whenever we want.

 

[orca]

You keep posting that, but if there's no signed bout agreement from Jones that "offer" means nothing.

"Hey, here's what we will pay you in the pretend scenario where we get the other guy to sign a contract".

you also keep saying that the one who left didnt duck and the one who stayed ducked

hes been offered and he declined and left
even if its even a 5 million offer for nganou who cant sell ppvs
thats already a big gamble lmfao

i posted facts and you hate it
because you believe in ufc africa fighters benefits and fairy tales?

 

[mkess101]

you also keep saying that the one who left didnt duck and the one who stayed ducked

hes been offered and he declined and left
even if its even a 5 million offer for nganou who cant sell ppvs
thats already a big gamble lmfao

i posted facts and you hate it
because you believe in ufc africa fighters benefits and fairy tales?

I've never commented at all on if anyone ducked anyone in terms of Jones/Ngannou so how about stop making up lies?

The FACT is that you keep posting an "offer" and trying to pass it off as legit when the reality is that the "offer" meant absolutely nothing without a signed bout agreement from Jones. The UFC was literally obligated to pay Ngannou ZERO DOLLARS unless JONES ACTUALLY SIGNED. Which he hadn't. And there's absolutely nothing you can say that changes that.

 

[orca]

I've never commented at all on if anyone ducked anyone in terms of Jones/Ngannou so how about stop making up lies?

The FACT is that you keep posting an "offer" and trying to pass it off as legit when the reality is that the "offer" meant absolutely nothing without a signed bout agreement from Jones. The UFC was literally obligated to pay Ngannou ZERO DOLLARS unless JONES ACTUALLY SIGNED. Which he hadn't. And there's absolutely nothing you can say that changes that.

but why did they declined?lol?
its an offer if you declined you dont want any part of it

imagine if jones declined and left what would your reactions be??

 

[KO Shotz]

It is a very high risk & no reward for Jon fighting Tom for sure, but it will look very bad on his legacy if he never agrees to fight Aspinall. I mean Jon is active, & him & Tom are the two top dogs in the division. So him not fighting the only legitimate competition in his division does look like he's ducking him. & this is coming from a Jon Jones fan.

 

[mkess101]

but why did they declined?lol?
its an offer if you declined you dont want any part of it

imagine if jones declined and left what would your reactions be??

Are you dense??

If someone makes you an offer contingent on other factors that you think have no chance of happening, the offer is worthless and you're going to pursue other avenues.

How the hell am I having to explain this to you?

If I make you an offer that says I'll pay you $10 million to box vs Canelo Alvarez as long as he signs, I've offered you absolutely nothing. Why? Because Canelo won't ever agree to box you. So my "offer" is just an empty bag of nothing.

 

[jsbx45]

It doesn't help but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Folks who are most up in arms about this are Jones haters anyways. It won't matter to most fans a year or two down the road.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

At this point Tom is ducking fighting anyone that’s not on their way out

 

[FrankDux]

OP's question is built on a premise that can't be proven.

Regardless of what you, me or anyone else thinks...history will remember Jon Jones as the greatest of all time. Jon Jones haters can cope.

 

[Howard Moon]

It is a very high risk & no reward for Jon fighting Tom

What does this even mean?

He's a prize-fighter, he fights for money. The reward is money.

He is the "champion" so every fight he would be risking the title against a contender. Of course there is risk.

What is a reasonable risk for the guy who calls himself the greatest of all time, in your opinion? A champion v champion against Belal, maybe?

 

[Pilo]

It won’t have any effect. People won’t remember a rather insignificant circumstance like this. Jon Jones’ MMA record, though, won’t be erased, neither from people’s memories, nor from the MMA history books.

Every MMA goat could always have fought the next guy, then the next guy…there’s a constant flow of new blood in this sport, and a career in MMA can only last so long.

Having known when to stop at the right time is a very overlooked yet key part of being in the GOAT discussion.

I really like Aspinall, but in all due respect, we already know, given the few blemishes he already has on his record, that he’ll never reach the kind of legendary status that Jones has.

10-15 years from now, this will all be entirely forgotten.

 

[BowserJr]

The biggest what if in MMA.

It would be like if Connor stayed at FW. He probably could've gone down as the best FW of all time and if he never went to LW it would've been a huge what if since Conor was clearly too big for FW fighters.

 

[BowserJr]

Jones cheated and lost via DQ. It was a loss. It's an exceptionally valid loss for a fighter with a habit of fouling so bad that it'd make Gilbert Yvel squeamish.

Yes sir and the positive test vs DC should been a DQ loss too

 

[icemun]

None.
Hell still be the best to do it ever



and lets be honest, if Jones beats Tom, people will shit on Tom faster than they did Gane.

 

[Bob Gray]

Nothing. His legacy is cemented. Anything else is gravy and any loss or perceived duck by females on sherdog wont mean much.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

It's actually a different scenario because Jones said he would defend against Stipe and then actually did.

GSP said he would defend against Whittaker and instead fucked off.

GSP vacated the belt immediately after less than two weeks due to health issues, Jon held up a division for two years and counting due to ego issues.

 

[Chayanne]

A Goat is allowed to lose, the reason for that is that a real goat doesn't avoid anyone and therefore can lose. Jones' record will be based on avoiding certain risks, and avoiding certain fighters.