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International WTF is going on in China?

China is investing in the future instead of retarded things like the climate scam and foreign wars.
And shit like this is why we’re actually losing. So you’re okay with just conceding major industries because you’re in a a cult and don’t believe in climate change? Trump announced he’s not even going to bother with EVs or green tech. These would create many new jobs too
 
Well yeah, it was obviously "much better" when like 65% of the country was living below the poverty line. The rural poverty rate when Mao died was like 96%, and who wouldn't want that kind of success?

You kind of give up the trolling gimmick when you say silly things like the country with sweat shops, suicide nets at their factories and a minimum wage of like $2/hour is "much better" than people getting paid $20/hour to show up high and check their phones all day.
Your views are more outdated than my grandma lol. How old are you?
 
And shit like this is why we’re actually losing. So you’re okay with just conceding major industries because you’re in a a cult and don’t believe in climate change? Trump announced he’s not even going to bother with EVs or green tech. These would create many new jobs too
We’ve had oppressive climate taxes and measures now for 10 years. Name me one good thing that’s come from them.
 
Those eggs had to go!!!! Bad eggs!!!!

Yes, 40, is considered a middle of the estimate range.... All in peace time.....

It's almost as if Mao is glossed over because he's not really spoken about in the same manner as Hitler or even Stalin, who's figures are mostly achieved on a war footing......
hitler deliberately exterminated people by the millions. errors, outside influence, and awful planning led to starvation under mao and stalin. not exactly the same thing.
 
I've visited China several times and have some business interests with companies that trade from AliExpress.

The whole notion that China is third world is outdated, I've never felt so safe as when I was wandering around Hong Kong, Shanghai or Beijing at night.

It's time to face facts, China invested in their social capital, we didn't. As much as China mass produces shit, they also produce all your high end luxury goods rebranded as European/American. I'm in to my luxury watches and they are the ones making Swiss watch parts and machining cases that would cost £5000 here for £200.
Hong Kong isn’t really comparable to the rest of China. Not quite yet at least. Though my friends who still live there tell me it is changing. And not for the better.
 
We’ve had oppressive climate taxes and measures now for 10 years. Name me one good thing that’s come from them.
In America? I don't see how that is true at all. What taxes are you referring to?
 
With these tariffs coming into effect, I support Canada increasing trade with China. We are far apart ideologically, but at least they're a stable partner. Fuck Trump and fuck America for voting him in.
 
Marx worked as a journalist and author, and seems to have worked quite hard, as his output was prolific.

Idk where the idea that he couldn't tell the difference between a large landowner and a peasant farmer comes from.

Seeing as he was a Communist in the 19th century, he wasn't aiming to become the JK Rowling of his time, and had a lot of trouble with censorship and persecution, which limited his financial opportunities.

In numerous letters to Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx frequently requested financial assistance, often detailing his dire financial situation, including struggles to pay bills and feed his family, due to his dedication to writing and political activism which did not provide a consistent income; Engels, who had a more secure financial standing from his family business, regularly provided Marx with financial support throughout their lives.
Key points about Marx's letters asking Engels for money:
Financial hardship:
Marx often described his family facing significant financial difficulties, including debt collectors knocking on his door and being forced to pawn items.
Justification for need:
He would explain how his time was fully dedicated to research and writing for the revolutionary movement, leaving little room for paid work.
Appreciation for Engels' support:
While requesting money, Marx often expressed gratitude for Engels' ongoing financial assistance and their shared revolutionary goals.

That's just Engels, he took money from everyone he could and these weren't small sums of money for the time and he would waste it.

He was a person that begged for money...... Because he wouldn't get a job that would support his own family..... That's definitely not a person I'd take any teaching from, he can't even get the basics right.

He wasn't really a journalist was he, he certainly didn't contribute very much in that regard.

He wasn't part of the working class, him and his wife had a maid, which he probably got pregnant and he made her sleep in the bed with them...... He blamed the child on Engels and asked him to take the blame...

Marx saw the workers on the farm and not the farm owner as the owners of their own production, it's irrelevant if that was a giant land owner or a tiny family farm..... Could you imagine what would happen when your 15 year old son wakes up and says I plowed half the field I own half the production of that field.

It's amazing that anyone would consider his blabbering and his juggling to avoid accountability as any form of intellectual contribution, all his endeavours are to basically avoid getting a real job and support his family..... I've met a few Marx types in my time, they usually live on benefits in the UK and talk a lot in the pub about solving the worlds problems.

Marx hated everything that was him, because he had failed at being a successful part of that very part of society that he wished to destroy.

Marx was a failed Bourgeoisie....... He hated the Bourgeoisie....

Marx failed at being a provider to his family, he hated the nuclear family.

Are you seeing a pattern yet......
 
Those eggs had to go!!!! Bad eggs!!!!

Yes, 40, is considered a middle of the estimate range.... All in peace time.....

It's almost as if Mao is glossed over because he's not really spoken about in the same manner as Hitler or even Stalin, who's figures are mostly achieved on a war footing......
You are exactly right.
Everyone sees Hitler as the clear cut worst leader in History. And that might be true. But really we have a trifecta of evil and terror with Mao, Stalin, and Hitler. Each man could make a claim for it. If Stalin was mad at you, he would kill you, your family, your friends, and sometimes the entire village where you lived. Some have his kill count at 20 million. But he was also a US ally, so he kind of gets a pass.

Those 3 are the goats of evil, death, and terror. If you did a top ten, add Ida amin, Pol pot, Nero, King Leopold II, Commodore, Caligula, and maybe Kim Jong il, who started a legacy of terror.
 
Meh. It's only a matter of time before somebody drops a vial in a Chinese lab and more than half their population turns into Zombies. ;)
 
You are exactly right.
Everyone sees Hitler as the clear cut worst leader in History. And that might be true. But really we have a trifecta of evil and terror with Mao, Stalin, and Hitler. Each man could make a claim for it. If Stalin was mad at you, he would kill you, your family, your friends, and sometimes the entire village where you lived. Some have his kill count at 20 million. But he was also a US ally, so he kind of gets a pass.

Those 3 are the goats of evil, death, and terror. If you did a top ten, add Ida amin, Pol pot, Nero, King Leopold II, Commodore, Caligula, and maybe Kim Jong il, who started a legacy of terror.

<Genghis Khan has entered the chat> 😈
 
and why would you think it would take them a hundred years?

they've been heavily investing into the education of their population on all levels for 50 years, while the US has been doing the opposite. the only reason anyone could expect the chinese to remain inferior technologically is if you believe they are somehow inferior intellectually. which they aren't.
B-b-but USA just defeated China in math...
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Hong Kong isn’t really comparable to the rest of China. Not quite yet at least. Though my friends who still live there tell me it is changing. And not for the better.
Living there is bound to be different to visiting like I did. HK was definitely more pro Western, with the residents taking any opportunity they could to test out their English. Shanghai and Beijing just didn't give a shit about you not speaking Mandarin. I was also somewhat of an attraction because I resemble a slimmer version of Jackson from Bloodsport in a tweed suit

I think the funniest thing about China was the internet censorship with massive billboards in the centre of the city advertising VPNs to bypass the censors. Classic Chinese - create the problem, sell the solution
 
Living there is bound to be different to visiting like I did. HK was definitely more pro Western, with the residents taking any opportunity they could to test out their English. Shanghai and Beijing just didn't give a shit about you not speaking Mandarin. I was also somewhat of an attraction because I resemble a slimmer version of Jackson from Bloodsport in a tweed suit

I think the funniest thing about China was the internet censorship with massive billboards in the centre of the city advertising VPNs to bypass the censors. Classic Chinese - create the problem, sell the solution
Seems they can shut down those VPNs at “sensitive” times of year though. Like around major public holidays. At least they could when I lived in Beijing and Hangzhou,
 
Seems they can shut down those VPNs at “sensitive” times of year though. Like around major public holidays. At least they could when I lived in Beijing and Hangzhou,
I respect the outright honesty of the Chinese. They'll just tell you to your face that they're spying on you and will control you if needs be.

The honesty doesn't stop at the government level. Some 105 year old woman stopped dead in her tracks and looked at me up and down..She then spat about 1ft in front of my feet. Probably saw my Pantera tattoo
 
Living there is bound to be different to visiting like I did. HK was definitely more pro Western, with the residents taking any opportunity they could to test out their English. Shanghai and Beijing just didn't give a shit about you not speaking Mandarin. I was also somewhat of an attraction because I resemble a slimmer version of Jackson from Bloodsport in a tweed suit

I think the funniest thing about China was the internet censorship with massive billboards in the centre of the city advertising VPNs to bypass the censors. Classic Chinese - create the problem, sell the solution

What the hell is a, "Dim Mak"?
 
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