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Again, Kenya is an example of SMS-based money lending. This technology predated Jobs's iPhone. They aren't working on iPhones in third world markets, and that breed of cellular "smartphone" technology predated the iPhone. You keep crediting Jobs for something he didn't invent, and he isn't responsible for bringing to the mass market.I'm not furiously googling. Kenya is a well-known example of mass deployment of smartphones for alternative banking and a bunch of rideshare startups (from my ongoing hatred of Uber, much like Tesla. Also because I have an unhealthy hatred of a company called SamaSource that runs outsourcing for Facebook and Walmart in Nairobi under the umbrella of "nonprofit tech training"), which is why it got picked. I used India because they're the largest example. Was it advancing before smartphones? Sure. Were car batteries getting going before Musk? Yes too. Want me to talk about my friend working in emerging SE Markets for a FAANG company where he says everything is done on mobile? (I wouldn't want to bust his NDA)
It's rich that you want to talk infrastructure on smartphones and belittle Jobs/iPhones impact, but give so much credit to Musk in the broader scheme of alternative energy like he is the hero.
Have the cake or eat it: either Jobs and Musk are both gods of industrial advancement, or they're both figureheads with decent ability to have final say in design meetings who then get to advertise on behalf of their company at events.
As I've already said: I DON'T LIKE JOBS OR APPLE, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAY HERO WORSHIP AND ATTRIBUTE FIRST-TO-MASS-MARKET PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT TO CHARISTMASTIC CEOS, MUSK IS WELL BEHIND JOBS UNTIL TESLA IS MASS-ADOPTED. Your attempt to deflect my point by crying about smartphones as unhealthy for western world teenage addicts is riiiiich and has nothing to do with my point. Are cars making people lazy and exercise less too? Yep. Would that be a weak as fuck argument for why electronic cars are bad given the numerous positives? Yes again.
The overhype CEO tech cult comparison between Musk/Tesla/EVs and Jobs/iPhone/smartphones works well:
-Tesla is Apple (slick, relies on celebrity endorsements for fashion/status, hotshot CEO, sells simplicity as luxury, hardware outsourced to other companies, fancy mall-placement showrooms, proprietary chargers)
-Prius is the Blackberry (halfway there...ahead of its time...made fun of as nerdy/ugly)
-Panasonic is closest to Android/Google, or possibly Samsung (batteries as an OS for tons of companies to mass-adopt, or if we use the Samsung comparison for being the chipset backbone of the phone industry for the 2010s for Tesla/Apple manufacturing).
I'm truly perplexed what sort of logic you're trying to invoke by claiming I'm a libtard who reads too much about Musk. Are you really that confused dude? Did you not read this whole thread where I compared Teslas supporters to the Southpark episode for being smug liberals? I'm chiding "libtards" who read too much about Musk without invoking critical thought about the technologies he promises, the deadlines, the cost, the government involvement, the labor rights for his workers, him faking a cave rescue and calling some a pedo etc...
Half is my disdain for rich scam artists, the other half is my research valuation as an active equities market participant (which I've already mentioned multiple times, but somehow ended up with me being a stupid libtard).
Happy New Year.
It's desperate, and it reveals your tremendous ignorance.