Would you ever raise another man's child?

that and times the dad gives some bs excuse why he can't get the kid on his weekend leaving you to cancel your plans and deal with his kid while he's out getting laid

Well, the sec I hear EX BF, the girl falls off my radar. Lands into the section of booty call when other options fall through.

Its a red flag for ex bf to be around.

Here is the kicker: THE FATHER SHOULD BE THERE.

If I am around, i would always feel like I was the reason shit did not workout which would bug me. Also, I am selfish. I am not sharing her with a ex or a kid. A kid needs her mother. I am not playing house.
 
Ive raised another mans child for the last 13 years, I consider him my son.
 
Well one of the girls just got pregnant with her then serious boyfriend. the other one was actually married. Several years after the marriage he started getting physically abusive and cheating on her. I mean she picked wrong but should no other guy ever want to date her because she inadvertently picked a psycho? She wasn't going out participating in gangbangs and got knocked up by a random, she was married starting a family.

To each their own. Not for me.

If you had the guy telling his story, likely, we would get a entirely different picture not to mention, the resources she has access to despite leaving.

I don't disagree some women baby trap guys, that's happening to a friend right now. Or that divorces are often disproportionately unfair to men. OR that a lot of women like to play the victim, and that society encourages this. But to generalize that EVERY single mother is a horrible slut that drove the father away is unreasonable. That's just not true.

I wont attack you personally.

All I will says, checkout a few Molyneux videos. I feel like you are at huge risk of being hit blind side due to environmental factors. factors outside your control. You have a choice and the onus is on self to pick. To be the man and steer your ship. Still, its nature vs nurture.
 
Well I wouldn't argue that the court system is unfair to men. Or that many women are vindictive cunts. But you said yourself sometimes all they did was pick the wrong person. I've known single moms that were with guys they didn't know were cheating, or ended up being abusive. So they left and the guy gave zero fucks about the kid.

So yeah poor judgement in picking a partner on their end, but that happens. EVERYONE has been in a relationship and found out "wow this person is actually pretty shitty and just good at hiding it" It's just most of the time there aren't kids in the picture.


It's like you're using how some women act as an indictment of ALL women. I've had some negative experiences and I'm pretty cynical and the first one to say a lot of women are cunts. That's why like I said I've been labeled a woman hater on here before. But I still realize ALL women aren't horrible and out to get me, my judgement skills are just awful when it comes to women.

Again. Why bother? Dudes like these aren't interested in real relationships.

What's hilarious is that it's their mentality that creates these single moms. Sweet talk the panties off them, then bail.
 
Funny, i consider myself old school in that nearing my 40s I've seen and experienced more failures of blood relationships than I care to recount.

"Blood" is an excuse to not account for ones actions, to assume all disloyalty will be forgiven because "blood" to assume unwavering love and loyalty no matter how heinious the crime.

I'm old school in the fact I believe things should be earned and affirmed through deeds not by accident of birth.
They say you cant choose your family, You can choose to disown them
 
To each their own. Not for me.

If you had the guy telling his story, likely, we would get a entirely different picture not to mention, the resources she has access to despite leaving.



I wont attack you personally.

All I will says, checkout a few Molyneux videos. I feel like you are at huge risk of being hit blind side due to environmental factors. factors outside your control. You have a choice and the onus is on self to pick. To be the man and steer your ship. Still, its nature vs nurture.
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Again. Why bother? Dudes like these aren't interested in real relationships.

What's hilarious is that it's their mentality that creates these single moms. Sweet talk the panties off them, then bail.

Yeah it's a totally different mindset than my own, but it's good to talk with people like that. It makes you think, although nobody is changing anyone's mind on a deeply held belief. I couldn't imagine having the goal of plowing through as many women as possible and not wanting a relationship, so it's a different perspective.
 
+ 1

I don't identify with the red pill/PUA/Manosphere but, I am sure as fuck aware.

Its simple. You or I; no man with options ever dates a single mom.



Here is another vid in response to: Why it rocks to be a single mum

https://www.netmums.com/support/why-it-rocks-to-be-a-single-mum

Its on average a half trillion expense due to single moms.

The single mothers are the welfare state.


You cannot be a good professional and mother. You are in one place or the other so, in all likelihood, you are bad at work and as a parent.

These stupid fucking narratives are promoted to the cucks and those that follow the beaten path.

You sir are a free thinker but, imagine if you were like 99% of beta male/cucks and guys with low testosterone.

Every time you hear about a single mom, you expect someone to bust out a violin and play a little tune along side her pity tangent.

Close your legs. I know enough that are absolute whores.


Unless she's a widow or was raped, I do not feel a single ounce of pity for single mothers. Where's the father? Is he a deadbeat piece of shit that abandoned his kids? Well, too bad. They can look for another single father to marry, but I will never consider the possibility of marrying a single mother, no matter how hot she is.

I do not want to carry the burden of raising a kid that's not mine and does not carry my genes. That goes against my nature as an assertive man, and I have no desire to care for a child that will eventually bequeath their piece of shit father's gene onto their offspring. That goes against the very core of my existence as a human being.
 
But what does that have to do with what I said? What if you meet a girl, and you get along with her really well, and she doesn't seem to be a horrible harpy and happens to have a kid? It's 100% a bad idea to get in a relationship with her just because she has a kid?

I mean you can't think EVERY single mom is a horrible person, and that's why she's a single mom. You don't think the guy is EVER at fault in why these relationships didn't work out?
Would I date a chick with a kid? No. But that's because I don't want kids. Not because I am so insecure that I think raising another man's kid makes me a "cuck" or that all single moms are sluts as a rule. Besides, this is all overcompensation anyway. This motherfucker doesn't really believe any of that anyway. It's all a defense mechanism he created to help explain why he never got laid. "No woman was good enough for me so I rejected them. I was never rejected..." That shit is really obvious.
 
I see a lot of young kids in this thread thinking they have it all figured out when in fact they can in all likelihood barely wipe their own asses let alone contain the faculties to be parents.

One day you guys will grow up and realize how silly and full of shit you were when you were young.
 
Again. Why bother? Dudes like these aren't interested in real relationships.

What's hilarious is that it's their mentality that creates these single moms. Sweet talk the panties off them, then bail.

Well, new girls are turning 18 everyday. To Quote Mcgoat, I apologize to absolutely nobody.

Furthermore, they get moist for mercenaries.
 
I see a lot of young kids in this thread thinking they have it all figured out when in fact they can in all likelihood barely wipe their own asses let alone contain the faculties to be parents.

One day you guys will grow up and realize how silly and full of shit you were when you were young.

Probably but raising some man's baby after sloot gonna sloot seems absurd. Like my resources I bust ass for are for me. I am not pampering some bimbo after she fell off. Maybe I grow up one day but I have never changed.
 
You are so full of shit

Not my first rodeo sparky.
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Previous smash

You mad?


Step your game up kuz.

Thanks for coming.
 
Unless she's a widow or was raped, I do not feel a single ounce of pity for single mothers.

Due to feminism/SJWs/Social Engineering etc. Widows get put into the same box as single moms.

They are not one and the same. Widow lost husband to death/war/car accident/whatvever. Single mom cannot keep legs closed.

Where's the father? Is he a deadbeat piece of shit that abandoned his kids? Well, too bad. They can look for another single father to marry, but I will never consider the possibility of marrying a single mother, no matter how hot she is

Some are hawt as fuck still. The thing is, there are quite a few hovering around me. I may light it up and ring her bell but for kicks. Not for keeps. Srs

I do not want to carry the burden of raising a kid that's not mine and does not carry my genes. That goes against my nature as an assertive man, and I have no desire to care for a child that will eventually bequeath their piece of shit father's gene onto their offspring. That goes against the very core of my existence as a human being.

I am in no place of mind/body/spirit to raise a child.
 
I don't think I've ever seen so many insecure little manchildren in one thread in all my time on the internet...
 
I recently read a detective story called The Bone Field.

The detective had an interesting point of view, when dating a woman with 2 kids, that it was like having a "built in family."

He marries her then suddenly he's a family man with wife and 2 kids.

That struck me as an intersting philosophy, never heard that view before.
 
Late 20s right hurrrrr!




If it was the animal kingdom, GENES ARE WEEDED OUT OF EXISTENCE. If she cannot feed herself or her kids, something comes and eats them.

We take a more humanistic approach in society but, what is the welfare state? Its the single mom victimhood + cannot close legs state. Tax dollars are allocated to some skank.

Before cities people lived in villages and prior to villages they lived in tribes. Humans have been helping their own survive for millions of years. This me me me thinking only exists now because both men and women are able to feed themselves and dont really need their family like they used to. If women are to be blamed for single motherhood than men have to also share the blame for living a individualistic lifestyle.
 
There are only two types of fathers.

Real ones and fake ones.

Biological fathers and step fathers

One is based on scientific fact

The other is meta-physical
 
I was raised by my mom and stepdad, so the idea doesn't seem strange to me at all.
 
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