Would you ever raise another man's child?

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Jesus, that's a lot of words to prove you're a goddamn moron.

Any idiot can create a child, but it takes a man to raise one. Being a sperm donor does not equal being a father.

I see a lot of guys shitting on the idea of raising someone else's kids who in fact will probably become stepfathers in the future.

The point is to allocate resources and throw away your financial future on expiring aesthetics?

Its interesting. Women initated 90% of divorce pending your state. They want marriage usually when playboy stops calling and she starts looking all rump roast like.

Other cuck males use the man up tactic to attempt to rope some chump into living a miserable life like they are. It serves no purpose any longer but to clean up the mess a woman made of her life and the child she has' life.

 

[HARRISON_3]

Your sexually deviant red headed step child needs help with her sex-ed homework. Do the right thing.

Spoiler

LOLOLOL

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

That's much too absolute of a statement. There's nothing wrong with just DATING a single mom, and I really don't see anything wrong with a single father marrying a single mother. As long as every other aspect of the relationship is tight and there's no issue with the kids.

That's free will. Be my guest. Any dude can choose a life of cuckoldry by all means.

The sad and pathetic fact is, the same woman in her best days of peak SMV wouldn't acknowledge this dude.

Single mom's are low hanging fruit.

Plummeted sexual market value. The same goes for ugly and fatties only worse since, her existence accompanies another mouth which means your resources.
#NOTHANKSJEFF

Having said that, if I ended up as a single father, I still wouldn't subject myself to raising someone else's kid. But other's might...and that doesn't mean they have no other options.

She did not magically get pregnant or some sort of immaculate conception. In all probabiliy; sloot gonn sloot. Said female is preggers, pair shaped, and no dude with options wants her.

On comes the good girl act + pussy bombing whatever cuck willing and roping him into her mess.

Someone else used the same argument about suddenly becoming single now and FINDING SOMEONE HIS AGE WITHOUT KIDS. Again, this is backwards thinking.

Is Leo Decaprio or Clooney dating women his age? Its laughable. Again, if you have options, you don't follow the beaten path of cuck central + captain save a hoe on steroids.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Seems unfair to assume every single mom is in that spot because she's a terrible person, but that's the go to response for a lot of people itt.

The go to in society is to demonize man.

Male teacher bangs hot student, hang him by his balls.

Female teacher bangs male student, she is a victim.


In every breakup, its never, the man is a good father and we tried but it didn't workout. The go to is always, "He only gives me X amount per month."

Reality he should give you the finger and start skull fucking your friends that still workout and are thin. Not pay your ass money for being a slob and a quiter.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

These are freak incidents. Also, women without a husband is a WIDOW not single mom. Single mom is the welfare state + reeks of victimhood and stupidity.

You are quickly challenging Scyther for the dumbest poster ever title. Who will win? Flat earth, or hate women who aren't June Cleaver?

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

so many people on here are making arguments about biology and nature to make their case but if this world was left to nature alone i wonder how many would survive it. I am not going to lie and state i would seek a woman with children as i would not but if someone exceptional came i would give her a chance especially if i have children of my own. In my 20's i would have said no way but in my 30's i would think about it.

Late 20s right hurrrrr!

No fucking way in a few years I will start dating rump roast. Pair shaped. Women past peak sexual market value. No thanks.


If it was the animal kingdom, GENES ARE WEEDED OUT OF EXISTENCE. If she cannot feed herself or her kids, something comes and eats them.

We take a more humanistic approach in society but, what is the welfare state? Its the single mom victimhood + cannot close legs state. Tax dollars are allocated to some skank.



There are better options then raising some man's child(ren). The fact that so many dude are not oppose shows the adversity to competition, the high probability of dudes raised by single moms, and bombarded with female logic for decades.

There are a lot of deal breakers when dating. Children is one of them. A woman with low sex drive and low self esteem is another. Low self esteem with high sex drive could be managed casually. Manipulative or shaming language has no place.

 

[Mike]

The go to in society is to demonize man.

Male teacher bangs hot student, hang him by his balls.

Female teacher bangs male student, she is a victim.


In every breakup, its never, the man is a good father and we tried but it didn't workout. The go to is always, "He only gives me X amount per month."

Reality he should give you the finger and start skull fucking your friends that still workout and are thin. Not pay your ass money for being a slob and a quiter.

But what does that have to do with what I said? What if you meet a girl, and you get along with her really well, and she doesn't seem to be a horrible harpy and happens to have a kid? It's 100% a bad idea to get in a relationship with her just because she has a kid?

I mean you can't think EVERY single mom is a horrible person, and that's why she's a single mom. You don't think the guy is EVER at fault in why these relationships didn't work out?

 

[FyrFytr998]

However, i wonder if the kids from another man would give you that leeway, certainly makes it way more complicated.

Well it would start with a certain level of respect both ways and a ton of communication. I will however admit that there are some instances where even this is not enough. Some kids just wanna watch the world burn.

 

[steve38]

That's free will. Be my guest. Any dude can choose a life of cuckoldry by all means.

The sad and pathetic fact is, the same woman in her best days of peak SMV wouldn't acknowledge this dude.

Single mom's are low hanging fruit.

Plummeted sexual market value. The same goes for ugly and fatties only worse since, her existence accompanies another mouth which means your resources.
#NOTHANKSJEFF


She did not magically get pregnant or some sort of immaculate conception. In all probabiliy; sloot gonn sloot. Said female is preggers, pair shaped, and no dude with options wants her.

On comes the good girl act + pussy bombing whatever cuck willing and roping him into her mess.

Someone else used the same argument about suddenly becoming single now and FINDING SOMEONE HIS AGE WITHOUT KIDS. Again, this is backwards thinking.

Is Leo Decaprio or Clooney dating women his age? Its laughable. Again, if you have options, you don't follow the beaten path of cuck central + captain save a hoe on steroids.

LOL....my point still stands, in that you make too many generalizations about single mothers and the guys who date/marry them. They are all sloots, and the guys are all cucks, right?

I've no interest in any woman with kids, even if I was divorced, but I know plenty of alpha guys who married single mothers and had happy lives. Maybe you need some more real world experience to go along with all your assertions.

btw, I'm reading that David Deida book you recommended and it's pretty good. It's a much more moderate approach to some of the life and love issues that you post about here. Thanks.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

But what does that have to do with what I said? What if you meet a girl, and you get along with her really well, and she doesn't seem to be a horrible harpy and happens to have a kid? It's 100% a bad idea to get in a relationship with her just because she has a kid?

Yes.

See the difference between you and I is perspective. Also, you are more emo. Their are no feelers involved. Woman has a kid, she could be in peak SMV range, and we can hookup. Not playing house. I am not raising a dude's kid.

I mean you can't think EVERY single mom is a horrible person, and that's why she's a single mom. You don't think the guy is EVER at fault in why these relationships didn't work out?

Women are gatekeeper of sex.

1. She picked the wrong man 99% of the time

2. Dude left (cannot keep a man)

In either event, she picked the wrong dude. Its a choice.

The same as if you or I pick the wrong woman and she trashed our lives, nobody gives a fuck. Society wont but, a parade of free money awaits her.

I know a single father. Jakes on him. He picked the wrong woman. She left. In court, they said she doesnt have to pay chit. She as a mother has the right to denounce anything for the child.

I DONT WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET.

 

[Mike]

lol, that's the thing, i have kids of my own and when i discipline them they know i love them so they dont take it to heart. However, i wonder if the kids from another man would give you that leeway, certainly makes it way more complicated.

Well by single mom I'm assuming their father is completely out of the picture. From what I've seen in that situation the kid thinks of you as their father, so I don't think that would be a problem. Now if you purposely maintain an emotional distance there would probably be issues.


The one time my stepdad ever tried to lecture me on something, I was on the quickdraw with "you're not my dad I don't have to listen to this". in my mind no way was he going to ignore me 99% of the time, but then think he had the authority to step in for a lecture whenever he wanted to.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

btw, I'm reading that David Deida book you recommended and it's pretty good. It's a much more moderate approach to some of the life and love issues that you post about here. Thanks.

Its a great read. Glad you enjoy it. Short too.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

It depends on how much I love the woman and if I like the kid.

Plus the whole "family blood" thing doesn't mean shit to me. I have relatives I've met like once in my life and when they have passed away or was in times of help, I never even thought of shedding a tear or reaching out to them.

I have friends I consider family more than actual family members.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

The one time my stepdad ever tried to lecture me on something, I was on the quickdraw with "you're not my dad I don't have to listen to this". in my mind no way was he going to ignore me 99% of the time, but then think he had the authority to step in for a lecture whenever he wanted to.

Why would any dude want to subject himself to this sort of nonsense?

Me: Hey little boy/girl. I am your new daddy.

 

[Mike]

Yes.

See the difference between you and I is perspective. Also, you are more emo. Their are no feelers involved. Woman has a kid, she could be in peak SMV range, and we can hookup. Not playing house. I am not raising a dude's kid.



Women are gatekeeper of sex.

1. She picked the wrong man 99% of the time

2. Dude left (cannot keep a man)

In either event, she picked the wrong dude. Its a choice.

The same as if you or I pick the wrong woman and she trashed our lives, nobody gives a fuck. Society wont but, a parade of free money awaits her.

I know a single father. Jakes on him. He picked the wrong woman. She left. In court, they said she doesnt have to pay chit. She as a mother has the right to denounce anything for the child.

I DONT WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET.

Well I wouldn't argue that the court system is unfair to men. Or that many women are vindictive cunts. But you said yourself sometimes all they did was pick the wrong person. I've known single moms that were with guys they didn't know were cheating, or ended up being abusive. So they left and the guy gave zero fucks about the kid.

So yeah poor judgement in picking a partner on their end, but that happens. EVERYONE has been in a relationship and found out "wow this person is actually pretty shitty and just good at hiding it" It's just most of the time there aren't kids in the picture.


It's like you're using how some women act as an indictment of ALL women. I've had some negative experiences and I'm pretty cynical and the first one to say a lot of women are cunts. That's why like I said I've been labeled a woman hater on here before. But I still realize ALL women aren't horrible and out to get me, my judgement skills are just awful when it comes to women.


And it seems you are interested in women for sex and nothing else. Not everyone looks at relationships that way is all I can say.

 

[Mike]

Why would any dude want to subject himself to this sort of nonsense?

Me: Hey little boy/girl. I am your new daddy.

Well like I said he showed up when I was 16, and it's not that he tried to assert himself as my dad or anything, it's that he completely ignored me. Every single day while we lived in the same house until I grew up and moved out. Not so much as a hello in passing, just looked through me like I wasn't there. And I TRIED to be nice to him because I was happy to see my mom dating again.


Then when my mom and I would be arguing he'd try to insert himself in the middle, like suddenly he's realized I exist. Fuck all that. If he had treated me like a human being I would have respected him and tried to hear him out, I wasn't a particularly rebellious teen. You're not ignoring me for years to stop and give me a lecture on how beating your kids is cool wherever you were raised. Cool I don't give a fuck get out of my face.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Well I wouldn't argue that the court system is unfair to men. Or that many women are vindictive cunts. But you said yourself sometimes all they did was pick the wrong person. I've known single moms that were with guys they didn't know were cheating, or ended up being abusive. So they left and the guy gave zero fucks about the kid.

So, what you are saying is that, I am correct. She picked the wrong man as I already said.

Remember the point on skiing down cawk mountain running through bad boys and playboys? Playboy stops calling and now its time to play house.

So yeah poor judgement in picking a partner on their end, but that happens. EVERYONE has been in a relationship and found out "wow this person is actually pretty shitty and just good at hiding it" It's just most of the time there aren't kids in the picture.

Its 2017. There is no excuse for accidentally on purpose pregnancy. What it tells me is she was reckless + tries to trap said alpha male/playboy. So, she is vindictive and a manipulative cunt too. Red flag!

It's like you're using how some women act as an indictment of ALL women. I've had some negative experiences and I'm pretty cynical and the first one to say a lot of women are cunts. That's why like I said I've been labeled a woman hater on here before. But I still realize ALL women aren't horrible and out to get me, my judgement skills are just awful when it comes to women.

I do too. However, I have been around the block enough times to see enough red flags.

I run a tight ship. Not in the mood GTFO!

Comes into my house with a fight or drama GTFO!

I am not playing. There are billions of women out there. All women are not horrible but, to think a good portion are ideal for marriage is retarded.


Its funny how women are painted as emotional when its the women leaving, the women scorned, and manipulative.

Why would I flip the coin on a marriage? On bringing the state into my LTR??

Why would I risk raising some other man's baby? She left before why not again?

I am all for hitting on sloots and smashing young, thin, attractive. Cleaning up a mess after her best days are over is not for me. Its good there are WKs out there cleaning up this mess.

I sure as fuck wont.

 

[My name is]

I never tried it. I smashed several (not always knowingly). Its never the same and scheduling sexy time around baby sitters gets played out fast.

that and times the dad gives some bs excuse why he can't get the kid on his weekend leaving you to cancel your plans and deal with his kid while he's out getting laid

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Well like I said he showed up when I was 16, and it's not that he tried to assert himself as my dad or anything, it's that he completely ignored me. Every single day while we lived in the same house until I grew up and moved out. Not so much as a hello in passing, just looked through me like I wasn't there. And I TRIED to be nice to him because I was happy to see my mom dating again.


Then when my mom and I would be arguing he'd try to insert himself in the middle, like suddenly he's realized I exist. Fuck all that. If he had treated me like a human being I would have respected him and tried to hear him out, I wasn't a particularly rebellious teen. You're not ignoring me for years to stop and give me a lecture on how beating your kids is cool wherever you were raised. Cool I don't give a fuck get out of my face.

Molyneux was raised by a single mother too. Decades of female logic disarm a man in the real world; the corporate/business world and the dating world.

I have boundaries.

A woman with low sex drive, manipulative, has baggage like kids or absurd financial debt, womens study major etc are all best avoided.

Its fine if a woman isn't in the mood. I am still going out to get mine. What one girl wont do, another one will. Sadly, most guys check out, get married, grow dad bod, and never reach their peak SMV.

More for me lol

 

[Mike]

So, what you are saying is that, I am correct. She picked the wrong man as I already said.

Remember the point on skiing down cawk mountain running through bad boys and playboys? Playboy stops calling and now its time to play house.



Its 2017. There is no excuse for accidentally on purpose pregnancy. What it tells me is she was reckless + tries to trap said alpha male/playboy. So, she is vindictive and a manipulative cunt too. Red flag!



I do too. However, I have been around the block enough times to see enough red flags.

I run a tight ship. Not in the mood GTFO!

Comes into my house with a fight or drama GTFO!

I am not playing. There are billions of women out there. All women are not horrible but, to think a good portion are ideal for marriage is retarded.


Its funny how women are painted as emotional when its the women leaving, the women scorned, and manipulative.

Why would I flip the coin on a marriage? On bringing the state into my LTR??

Why would I risk raising some other man's baby? She left before why not again?

I am all for hitting on sloots and smashing young, thin, attractive. Cleaning up a mess after her best days are over is not for me. Its good there are WKs out there cleaning up this mess.

I sure as fuck wont.

Well one of the girls just got pregnant with her then serious boyfriend. the other one was actually married. Several years after the marriage he started getting physically abusive and cheating on her. I mean she picked wrong but should no other guy ever want to date her because she inadvertently picked a psycho? She wasn't going out participating in gangbangs and got knocked up by a random, she was married starting a family.


I don't disagree some women baby trap guys, that's happening to a friend right now. Or that divorces are often disproportionately unfair to men. OR that a lot of women like to play the victim, and that society encourages this. But to generalize that EVERY single mother is a horrible slut that drove the father away is unreasonable. That's just not true.