Would Fedor Emelianenko duck Aspinall like the way Jon Jones is doing?

[CombatSports55]

Fedor ducks no one. This is without question he would fight Tom. (as long as it's not under a UFC contract)
That being said, Aspinall would most likely ko him in the first round.

 

[Mind Mine]

Managers work for you, Jon Jones can tell his managers what he wants to do and they have to comply.

Fedor was signed to M-1, which is a promotion. Fedor can't fight for other promotions unless M-1 allows it. So it's not the same at all.

Saying Fedor ducked someone in the UFC by not signing with them is as silly as saying Jones is ducking Ngannou because he's not fighting someone in PFL.

What the fuck are you on about they were signed to Strikeforce

 

[Doctor Grudge]

What the fuck are you on about they were signed to Strikeforce

.....I love how you're swearing and saying all this random shit, and legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. For whatever reason, you just want to make a narrative where you're right about Jones and somehow deflect his criticism to another fighter.

But to answer your question - Fedor was signed to M-1. You can literally look this up in two seconds. All the fights he fought in Strikeforce were labeled as Co-promotions. The UFC was not willing to do that.

It's not that complicated. Trying to think that Jones has the equivalent of M-1 attached to him shows either you are ignorant of what M-1 was, or you're just trying desperately to be right by spreading misinformation.


Like come on dude, think beyond the surface - did you seriously think you were educating people by saying "they were signed to Strikeforce" - as if no one here knows that. If Fedor has fought on Strikeforce, and someone his telling you he was signed to M-1, don't you think that maaaaybe there is a detail you're missing there? What do you think, I had no idea Fedor was ever in Strikeforce?

 

[Mind Mine]

.....I love how you're swearing and saying all this random shit, and legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. For whatever reason, you just want to make a narrative where you're right about Jones and somehow deflect his criticism to another fighter.

But to answer your question - Fedor was signed to M-1. You can literally look this up in two seconds. All the fights he fought in Strikeforce were labeled as Co-promotions. The UFC was not willing to do that.

It's not that complicated. Trying to think that Jones has the equivalent of M-1 attached to him shows either you are ignorant of what M-1 was, or you're just trying desperately to be right by spreading misinformation.

Did the fuck word hurt you? Go cry to a fucking mod you Karen. Fedor was signed under Strikeforce as was Overeem. He didn’t fight another fighter in the organization HE FOUGHT MANY PEOPLE under because him or his team DIDNT FUCKING WANT TO you dummy

 

[moreorless87]

Did the fuck word hurt you? Go cry to a fucking mod you Karen. Fedor was signed under Strikeforce as was Overeem. He didn’t fight another fighter in the organization HE FOUGHT MANY PEOPLE under because him or his team DIDNT FUCKING WANT TO you dummy

He fought in Strikeforce but as mentioned under co promotion, he was actually signed to M-1. You look at the contract and it gives them much of the control in terms of agreeing bouts.

In this case though I don't think this is actually a significant issue, the period were Fedor could have fought Reem after the Rogers match in late 09 Reem decided to fight in the K-1 WGP. Then come 2010 Scott Coker himself was saying he wanted Fedor and Reem to have other fights before facing each other in order to build up the match but Fedor lost to Werdum, after that both of them were put into the SF HW GP and potentially setup to meet in the finale

We got some smack talk about Reem and Fedor's camps around that time, Fedor's camp made comments about wanting VADA testing I believe although the figtht itself was never offered to them and they never turned it down.

 

[markg171]

Fedor was a warrior till the very end. He went out on his shield vs Bader when he didn't have to, he wouldn't have ducked Aspinall. He didn't give a shit about people telling him to retire, he didn't give a shit what people thought about his legacy. He fought till he couldn't and now he trains others.

Wait do you think Old Man Bader was a bad matchup for Fedor or something?

Jesus Christ.

 

[markg171]

And Tom should share some blame here too. He could have kept fighting and winning and made himself undeniable as well as a big money fight but instead he chose to talk a lot.

Everybody saying Tom should be promoted to undisputed champion and I'm just... why? He's less active than the actual champion. Why would the UFC ever reward his inactivity and punish Jon's activity? That makes no sense.

Guy's perfectly capable of remaining #1 contender without an interim belt. If he and his fans don't like it he could've made himself an actual viable alternative champion by fighting. The entire point of an interim is to be active in lieu of the champion. The UFC would be taking a much more favourable look at things if Tom's giving them 2-3 title fights a year compared to 0.

 

[Mind Mine]

He fought in Strikeforce but as mentioned under co promotion, he was actually signed to M-1. You look at the contract and it gives them much of the control in terms of agreeing bouts.

In this case though I don't think this is actually a significant issue, the period were Fedor could have fought Reem after the Rogers match in late 09 Reem decided to fight in the K-1 WGP. Then come 2010 Scott Coker himself was saying he wanted Fedor and Reem to have other fights before facing each other in order to build up the match but Fedor lost to Werdum, after that both of them were put into the SF HW GP and potentially setup to meet in the finale

We got some smack talk about Reem and Fedor's camps around that time, Fedor's camp made comments about wanting VADA testing I believe although the figtht itself was never offered to them and they never turned it down.

To be fair it isn’t too far off from the Jones situation because the UFC DICTATED ALL ACTION until this point. I doubt it happens. I doubt Jones wants it and I know for a fact Dana would prefer Jones Poatan. Also in all fairness to Fedor he would have been destroyed in humiliating painful fashion beyond ANY shadow of doubt. I think it’s a crazy thread to make being as Fedor took all comers and lost most times in the US. The times he won like Page and Chael looked like works. He probably would fight Aspinall. If people want to be fair conpare American soil Fedor to Carwin or someone his caliber. Maybe Carwin is even a stretch maybe BB or Tui. The dishonesty to even keep typing him and Jones in comparison tickles me

 

[Gutter Chris]

Everybody saying Tom should be promoted to undisputed champion and I'm just... why? He's less active than the actual champion. Why would the UFC ever reward his inactivity and punish Jon's activity? That makes no sense.

Guy's perfectly capable of remaining #1 contender without an interim belt. If he and his fans don't like it he could've made himself an actual viable alternative champion by fighting. The entire point of an interim is to be active in lieu of the champion. The UFC would be taking a much more favourable look at things if Tom's giving them 2-3 title fights a year compared to 0.

Amen dude. Well said.

 

[Robbocop]

Similar circumstances like he fought his whole career at LHW? Hard to imagine.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Would he have ducked him ? No

Would Pride have Fedor fight a freak show fight and Tom fight Crocop or Nog? Yes

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

People will blame Dana and try to rationalize it, but it pretty much came down to him and his people wanting to run his career like a boxer after Pride. Calculated risks, record padding, basically live off of the undefeated aura and ride the gravy train as long as possible. He wasnt going to get that treatment in the UFC.

Absolute fanfic retardation.
It came down to Vadim and Millen being greedy retards.

 

[moreorless87]

He probably would fight Aspinall.

Ok then so you agree with the thread title. why the long debate?

 

[BFoe]

Absolute fanfic retardation.
It came down to Vadim and Millen being greedy retards.

I don’t think that’s totally fair. The issues Fedor had with the contract structure were the same ones Ngannou had and finally got ended. Fighters had just been dealing with it for years because they had no other choice, but Fedor did have other choices.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Fedor doesn't duck anyone. Anyone who disagrees is gay

 

[moreorless87]

Everybody saying Tom should be promoted to undisputed champion and I'm just... why? He's less active than the actual champion. Why would the UFC ever reward his inactivity and punish Jon's activity? That makes no sense.

Guy's perfectly capable of remaining #1 contender without an interim belt. If he and his fans don't like it he could've made himself an actual viable alternative champion by fighting. The entire point of an interim is to be active in lieu of the champion. The UFC would be taking a much more favourable look at things if Tom's giving them 2-3 title fights a year compared to 0.

An interim champion should by his nature be fighting the champion next, if the champion is fit to fight but unwilling to fight him he should be stripped.

 

[TheBulge]

Fedor did something far worse. While he was ranked #1 HW and just went to SF to become champ, he Ducked Ubereem who held the title at the time. Fedor hid behind 'drug testing' which was hilarious when he made a career out of fighting in an org that did zero testing.

He also ducked the UFC for years with even more phony excuses.

I also can't help but wonder why he never gave Cro Cop a rematch, one of his toughest and most dangerous fights and Cro Cop improved after their fight and was winning bigly. The cultists will put this on 'tournament timing' BS but he could have easily fought the man as the title holder instead of the cans he was beating up in the meantime.

 

[markg171]

An interim champion should by his nature be fighting the champion next, if the champion is fit to fight but unwilling to fight him he should be stripped.

An interim champion by definition is supposed to be active in lieu of the champion.

We've got a useless title at HW and it ain't Jon's.

 

[fujitsugroundnpound]

For those 30 seconds
The best in Blaydes career
Every punch, every trade, he looked like Fedor vs Aspinall

Aspinall says he won't fight unless its for belt, I'm sorry but someone who got smashed like that can't demand anything, be humble

 

[Romulas]

Given similar circumstances.

Or Fedor is just different warrior breed? Different mentality?

I think Fedor would love the opportunity to fight a young hungry fighter like Aspinall.

Who's well rounded, it would be a great challenge for him.

And an amazing to test his skillset.

Jon Jones is att he end of his career and has something to protect. Fedor was cashing paychecks at the end.