With 3 Ls in a row, is sherdog ready to accept Yan as overrated?

I find this forum is very accepting, Yan's religion isn't a problem to them at all.
 
Yan just doesn't seem to grasp the concept of winning. He knows how to fight, he definitely has talent, but it doesn't seem like he knows how to truly win. He doesn't really go for a finish and he doesn't put in enough work to convincingly win rounds. His talent got him past a certain level of opponent, but against top guys he's struggling to put wins together.

He needs to change it up or risk becoming a gatekeeper type of guy.
 
would love to give an opinion but i dont watch anything under 170, sorry
 
Nah, I'm ready to accept that current BW is one of the best divisions in the history of the sport. I believe Yan would dominate previous eras of BW. Unfortunately for him he has to coexist with other historically good BWs.
 
Thesnake101 said:
And to think it all started from an illegal knee.
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I like to think that knee was the point of divergence between our timeline and another one where right now Petr Yan is like 19-1 with four title defenses and a P4P Top 5 slot while people are screeching at each other on Sherdog about whether he's done enough to surpass Dom as BW GOAT or not lmao. There's probably someone calling for him to move up and fight Volkanovski in a Superfight or something, too.

I don't really have any strong feelings about Yan one way or another, I just think the way his career has turned out is morbidly amusing and like to imagine the way things easily could have played out.
 
Lanx7 said:
Yan has just had a weird ass career tbh. People talk as if momentum isn't a thing in combat sports.

When he was dominating Sterling in the first fight he had all the confidence and swagger in the world. Following the DQ loss and SD loss to Sterling and a SD loss to O'Malley, he seems to be doubting himself a lot more and Merab just killed him off completely.

He'll go down in history as a great "what if".
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people said this about vitor as well before he found the trt
 
Was comfortably beating Aljo in their first fight.

Had a pick-em decision in their rematch.

So he's got 3 "losses" that are a DQ where he was winning and two pick-em decisions against the literal champion and arguably the best prospect in the division.

For whatever reason some people use this loss to Merab as a weird way to disrespect how good he is. Merab is a problem for everybody and he's 100% world class. His body of work speaks for itself.

Yan is clearly a top 5 talent.
 
He arrived at a very fortunate time in the division, all the previous generation had aged out and the younger talent were not established.
 
uh that knee is the worst thing that couldve happened to him
 
Everyone said he was invincible after his first fight with sterling and that he was going to run over him in the rematch
If you look at the fight stats of the firmest sterling fight, he was losing that too- he had one good round
And he def lost to suga
 
I think he is very good but clearly not the best. Aljo fight was close, I think Aljo rightly got the nod even though many Sherdoggers disagreed. I think Yan beat O'Malley though.
 
Solid fighter but typically stubborn fight IQ like you see from guys like him and Aldo. They just keep fighting the same way from round 1 until the end like something will magically change. They never change things up or have a plan B.
 
Vampire life said:
Everyone said he was invincible after his first fight with sterling and that he was going to run over him in the rematch
If you look at the fight stats of the firmest sterling fight, he was losing that too- he had one good round
And he def lost to suga
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I never thought he was invincible & I think Aljo rightfully won the decision in the rematch, but this is some revisionist history about their first fight. Yan was winning on everyones scorecard up to that point. Every single MMA media site had Yan winning. I do think the first fight was more competitive than a lot of people made it out to be, but Yan was winning on everyones scorecard

As for O'Malley, it definitely was not definite that he lost. Most thought O Malley lost that fight, so I don't know how that can count as definite. 25 sites scored it for Yan, 1 scored it for O Malley

Sean O'Malley def. Petr Yan :: UFC 280 - MMA DecisionsMMA Decisionshttp://mmadecisions.com › decision › Sean-OMalley-v...
 
Vampire life said:
Everyone said he was invincible after his first fight with sterling and that he was going to run over him in the rematch
If you look at the fight stats of the firmest sterling fight, he was losing that too- he had one good round
And he def lost to suga
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Silly

Yan was winning that fight, especially since Sterling was slowing down.

This is such a weird thread, Yan is arguably 3-1 in his last 4 right now
 
I dunno but I think Blue Cage Buzzsaw Aldo would destroy him.
 
The DQ/Loss to Aljo isn't that bad. This most recent one is a bad sign though.

That abortion of a decision against Omalley shouldn't really count against him.
 
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