Will Khamzat and Aspinall be the GOATs in their respective divisions after everything said and done?

[JustOnce]

You really cannot be the "greatest ever" without holding the one thing that actually says you're the greatest at any given moment in time.

That's also why it's utter horse shit to say something like "Khamzat defends twice is all he needs to do .." others have literally done it 5 times longer.

The literal fucking function of the championship is awarding the best.

it depends though. fedor didn't defend his belt that much for one.
it really depends on the context.

 

[orca]

i don't know but i don't think i'm your type sorry

you just said that anderson was roided
thats why fedor is goat because hes the only fighter whos clean

yeah the only fighter in pride thats clean because you cherry picking?

its like saying well they all are roided in pride but my hero is the only 1 clean

 

[JustOnce]

you just said that anderson was roided
thats why fedor is goat because hes the only fighter whos clean

yeah the only fighter in pride thats clean because you cherry picking?

its like saying well they all are roided in pride but my hero is the only 1 clean

well i'm calling roider a roider what's wrong with that

fedor never pissed hot.

 

[orca]

well i'm calling roider a roider what's wrong with that

fedor never pissed hot.

yeah the only fighter in pride who never uses
shogun never pissed hot as well
hes roided asf also wanderlei

guess your cherry picking again?
or are you saying hes roided but just didnt get caught? thats why hes the goat?
lol

 

[AbominableJoman]

Khamzat absolutely could be GOAT middleweight. His style can nullify most all strikers, and is better then most grapplers. Solid bjj too. If khamzat isn’t on the cream of the crop steroids like Anderoid was, he could do that to extend his prime. Imagine if he defends 3-4 times a year and stays healthy. Just like that steroid junky. Splatter silva.

Tom’s a different story, because at hw everything can end in an instant, unlike any other weight class. His athleticism and speed, combined with a very good ground game, and dangerous stringing could take him into Goat status.

 

[cmw43]

you just said that anderson was roided
thats why fedor is goat because hes the only fighter whos clean

yeah the only fighter in pride thats clean because you cherry picking?

its like saying well they all are roided in pride but my hero is the only 1 clean

And Khamzat has suddenly got amazing cardio after joining up with TJ Dillashaws (busted for EPO) conditioning coach who came from the world of cycling which is the EPO hot bed.

 

[cmw43]

Khamzat absolutely could be GOAT middleweight. His style can nullify most all strikers, and is better then most grapplers. Solid bjj too. If khamzat isn’t on the cream of the crop steroids like Anderoid was, he could do that to extend his prime. Imagine if he defends 3-4 times a year and stays healthy. Just like that steroid junky. Splatter silva.

Tom’s a different story, because at hw everything can end in an instant, unlike any other weight class. His athleticism and speed, combined with a very good ground game, and dangerous stringing could take him into Goat status.

Khamzats gonna be lucky to defend once a year looking at his last few fights.

 

[Thy]

I could see hamzat enjoying goat. Aspinal seems more of a chicken and beef kind of guy.

 

[Mob69]

Well if one examines the championship streaks and scalps accumulated by Silva and Fedor, the odds of either Khamzat or Chimaev surpassing them are minuscule. The chances that both will do so are so small as to be difficult to measure. Probably 5000-1.

 

[Mob69]

There's nobody at HW who Aspinall can beat that'd make him the HW GOAT.

Indeed. Fedor beat Nog twice, Cro Cop, Coleman, Sylvia, Arlovski, etc etc.

HWs of that quality don’t exist any more. Nobody Tom can fight can make him a GOAT candidate.

Francis fed on the dregs of the last good era of heavyweight MMA. It built his name. Aspinall has no such opportunities.

But look at Fedor’s winning streak. Any comparison between Fedor and other HWs is basically laughable.

He remained THE MAN 18 successive times.

 

[Mob69]

It's not difficult. You just have to avoid turning an blind eye to a roider due to a favouritism.

Without commenting on Silva: how the heck do you think these wrestlers from the Caucasus tend to have ferocious cardio?

 

[Mob69]

Remember back in the day you used to have to defend your belt for years before that was a consideration? Now GOAT status is talked about before even a single defense.

One of the reasons I tuned out from MMA media was that every PPV spawned a new divisional GOAT or even P4P GOAT.

Fuck off. Analytically inept.

 

[Ginja_Ninja]

Just have to catch Izzy tbh. And he's facing a tougher division and a better fighter.

Izzy is still a mile behind Anderson.

The division is definitely tough with some better fighters but...
he hasn't been facing them yet, still a lot of work to do.
Right now he is only 2-0 against the top 15.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Khamzats gonna be lucky to defend once a year looking at his last few fights.

Yeah it’s been that way now for a few years. I’m hoping he’ll stay healthy and out of trouble. He’s got the skills to make a goat run if he can turn back the clock a little. He’s very dominant.

 

[SeanWRT]

Goat don't have recent fights like Burns and past prime Usman when in such discussion.

 

[Clark Rogers]

Silva literally arguably had the weakest division of all time. People would know this if they followed this when it was happening. Things tend to get overblown at times in hindsight.

I just hope Tom beats Gane. It could be a long night if he can't take him down and get him out early if Gane comes in top shape.

"Literally arguable."

Congratulations, TS, you just described every. Single. Fucking. Thing. In. Life.

Everything is 'literally arguable.' Has absolutely no bearing on how factual or valid either point in the argument may be.

It's literally arguable that someone is GOAT ready after a single title win. But as almost every response on the first page showed, it's also literally invalid.

 

[JustOnce]

"Literally arguable."

Congratulations, TS, you just described every. Single. Fucking. Thing. In. Life.

Everything is 'literally arguable.' Has absolutely no bearing on how factual or valid either point in the argument may be.

It's literally arguable that someone is GOAT ready after a single title win. But as almost every response on the first page showed, it's also literally invalid.

 

[JustOnce]

Goat don't have recent fights like Burns and past prime Usman when in such discussion.

Both wins

 

[JustOnce]

Yeah it’s been that way now for a few years. I’m hoping he’ll stay healthy and out of trouble. He’s got the skills to make a goat run if he can turn back the clock a little. He’s very dominant.

yeah still untested at mw though.

i think first two three title defenses will make or break him.

if he can, then he could go on a long run

it's just a matter of beating guys like hernandez...

 

[JustOnce]

Izzy is still a mile behind Anderson.

The division is definitely tough with some better fighters but...
he hasn't been facing them yet, still a lot of work to do.
Right now he is only 2-0 against the top 15.

well no need to worry about roider