Will Khamzat and Aspinall be the GOATs in their respective divisions after everything said and done?

[JustOnce]

I see. But... I just match the tone used. I don't have any info that ppl here do not have. I'm just a casual. But when ppl say stuff like "more retarded stuff, take your pills", then I like pretending to be "ahead". If ppl are respectful, I'm gonna be respectful. If they go on with "take your meds" insults when I'm just giving an opinion based off rewatching their fights many times while never claiming it's the truth, then I'm gonna pretend to be the "know it all". I'm just clueless and a nerd follower. But I don't have privileged info... I just joke around with it by teasing ppl (like "it's happened already ") when they name call me. It's just to piss them off.

POWER OF FRIENDSHIPPPPP

 

[JustOnce]

There's no official "GOAT" title. It's a hypothetical comparison to fighters current and past, so it's never "already done."

Why not start a thread about every single UFC fighter who is going to make his/her debut in the promotion, about whether they will be GOAT, when all is said and done?

i see where you are going with this but you on your own boss.

 

[JustOnce]

this is so fucking retarded it hurts my soul lmao

what that could be interpreted is that, if he beats Hernandez, RDR and Imavov and Caio,

he's good enough to beat everyone else. like there's a lot we still don't know about him. But if he's good enough to go 4-0, who gonna beat him

personally, i don't know if he beats Hernandez and still not sure how good his cardio is.

 

[JustOnce]

Look how many champions have defended the belt at HW multiple times. Every heavyweight is always like one punch away from losing.

for sure for sure let's hope Aspinall beats Gane, I think Gane got much better shot than people or odds give him, IF and only IF he gets his shit together and bring his A game.

Aspinall got a chin on him too. I had Sergei in that one, but he at that punch like a champ.

 

[JustOnce]

Khamzat won't even get close, he's not on that level at all. Can he defend the title 3 times like Weidman did? that will be interesting to see.

Aspinall has the benefit of a poor division, but becoming the undisputed HW GOAT is a tall order and the poor division hurts any case he might be able to make. I doubt he will even reach UFC HW goat status. Aspinall is still largely unproven, he's been able to KO guys before they can test his defensive grappling, defensive striking, or cardio thus far. His chin looks decent, but his speed has allowed him to avoid some bombs he might not be able to absorb.

Neither guy will be champion by the end of 2027, that's my prediction.

Weidman vs Khamzat prime for prime would be the best MW fight ever. Prime Weidman is as good as it gets imo. People easily forget that because he declined so bad.

HW division is pretty thin right now, it's all relative. For example, Sergei who just fought, i mean he doesn't have name value, but would Stipe vs Sergei not have been a coin toss like Aspinall fight was? Obviously it would've been.

I think it's terrible right now, but if Aspinall goes on a run, i don't think it's that unlikely as some are making it out to be.

But I'm not sure how likely he goes on that run. I don't know if he beats Gane which would be his first defense. But if he beats Gane and Almeida back to back, who else is there for him, I do not know.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

for sure for sure let's hope Aspinall beats Gane, I think Gane got much better shot than people or odds give him, IF and only IF he gets his shit together and bring his A game.

Aspinall got a chin on him too. I had Sergei in that one, but he at that punch like a champ.

Yep.If this ends up being a stand-up war, Gane has a pretty good shot of out working Tom

 

[JustOnce]

Yep.If this ends up being a stand-up war, Gane has a pretty good shot of out working Tom

i think Gane is better on the feet, but it all depends on if Gane comes in top form. He didn't look good against Volkov at all, broken toe or whatever the heck it was and it was a bad robbery too. It's a different style though.

Peak for peak, I think Gane probably beats Aspinall though i'm sure it's not a popular opinion. But Aspinall a better fighter, if that makes sense.

 

[GrantB13]

no i wouldn't say that. they had uber hype, is 9-0 and 9-1 in UFC respectively, and are now champs, especially aspinall who almost cleaned out his division as is lol. khamzat bypassed almost the entire mw division though.

i don't think it's ever too early, especially hw defense at hw has a low bar, and mw records is held by And-roid.

Machida.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Johnny Hendricks that showed up GSP beats the breaks off Khamzat.

Even if you think Johny won that decision, how did he "show him up" exactly?

Anime nerds are the worst.

 

[JustOnce]

Even if you think Johny won that decision, how did he "show him up" exactly?

Anime nerds are the worst.

i left out against after show up, you dork

 

[JustOnce]

Machida.

had to do a double take to understand what you meant but i see what you mean

yeah we will see, they face tough first fight defenses.

but let's be honest here, neither of them has Shogun or Jones in their weight classes.

 

[markg171]

People already trying to call Aspinall the GOAT if he maybe possibly beats Gane in October, after spending years saying Jones beating Gane meant nothing.

Very cool Sherdog

 

[JustOnce]

People already trying to call Aspinall the GOAT if he maybe possibly beats Gane in October, after spending years saying Jones beating Gane meant nothing.

Very cool Sherdog

there's a big big difference between ducking ngannou like your life depended on it, then beat Gane which is a much favourable match up, then beating 60 year old Stipe and coming close to cleaning out the division outside gane and almeida and then beating Gane which on paper isn't an easy match up possibly since Aspinall isn't the wrestler Jones is. It's like how Gane was a tough fight for Ngannou for unified title belt and it was a great win, but wasn't for Jones. Match ups make fights. Ngannou and Aspinall would likely send Jones to the eternal depths of a shadow realm, but the way Gane fights, it may not be a straight forward match up for them.

Beating Gane didn't mean nothing either. It meant something. But little.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

This mom is the Goat of all divisions.

 

[JustOnce]

This mom is the Goat of all divisions.

ahamdulliah

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

I think we need to normalize chilling out on calling ppl GOATS or potential GOATS. It's getting outta hand.

A fighter shouldn’t be judged as a goat until their career is completely finished. Most of the “what if talk” falls flat until a fighter has retired and their entire career is put into perspective.

 

[orca]

to be fair it's not stipe he has to beat it's fedor.

android might be goat roider, but no goat of this sport lol

you dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out mma fighters roid

you believe fedor is clean lmfao

are you like 12?

 

[JustOnce]

you dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out mma fighters roid

you believe fedor is clean lmfao

are you like 12?

i don't know but i don't think i'm your type sorry

 

[JustOnce]

A fighter shouldn’t be judged as a goat until their career is completely finished. Most of the “what if talk” falls flat until a fighter has retired and their entire career is put into perspective.

that's true, but i mean most of the time we are speculating on here anyways, we can really discuss things not only after everything's wrapped up

 

[Clark Rogers]

title doesn't define a fighter. you can make a fighter to a champion. look at o'malley. i was saying he sucks during before and after his run. i gave him credit though when very few if no one else did saying he was a better striker than yan before their fight, but you can make a fighter into a champ when they dont have talent for it

look at paddy. a couple corpses, one fight away from a title.

they are great, great fighters regardless. i dont care about politics.

i'm not sure if they win their next fights for sure tho.

You really cannot be the "greatest ever" without holding the one thing that actually says you're the greatest at any given moment in time.

That's also why it's utter horse shit to say something like "Khamzat defends twice is all he needs to do .." others have literally done it 5 times longer.

The literal fucking function of the championship is awarding the best.