Will Belal do Shavkat the same way Merab did Umar?

[moosaev]

I dont think either fighter is boring but especially merab can't be classified as boring reasonably, There is action and pace in all of his fights. you can't say that nothing happens all fight like it's lewis vs ngannou. Leon vs usman 2 is a more boring than most of merabs fights even though it ended with a ko of the year headkick IMO

Merab does way too much stalling. For all his pace, pressure and takedown attempts ultimately he doesn’t do much with it. If he incorporated GnP and submissions like Khabib it would be a different ball game. But cardio and pace by itself isn’t entertaining. That’s why he clowns around in the cage, he uses showmanship to make up for a lack of style.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Shav is more overrated than Umar was.

Also, while I agree belal and merab have similar dryhump styles, for whatever reason Merabs fights have been infinitely more exciting to watch than most of Belal's.

Belal vs Brady and against Leon were decent tho so maybe the tide is changing.

c'mon man Shavkat faced way better competition and is way more proven, He just beat ian garry who is undefeated and a great fighter himself also neal and wonderboy both good wins. Don't be that way.

Umar hasn't done JACK SHIT. And was inserted into a title fight when there was a better viable contender who ACTUALLY earned a title shot.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Merab does way too much stalling. For all his pace, pressure and takedown attempts ultimately he doesn’t do much with it. If he incorporated GnP and submissions like Khabib it would be a different ball game. But cardio and pace by itself isn’t entertaining. That’s why he clowns around in the cage, he uses showmanship to make up for a lack of style.

Khabib could never fight at merabs pace while chasing submissions and GNP for 5 rounds. That's how merab keeps his 5 round pace. by not doing too much of that he does more pushing

 

[moosaev]

Khabib could never fight at merabs pace while chasing submissions and GNP for 5 rounds. That's how merab keeps his 5 round pace. by not doing too much of that he does more pushing

Exactly, but pace by itself is not entertaining. It’s a fight not a triathlon. Kudos to him it’s an effective style, but very boring. His fight with Umar was entertaining because Umar has good enough grappling to not allow Merab to stall.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Exactly, but pace by itself is not entertaining. It’s a fight not a triathlon. Kudos to him it’s an effective style, but very boring. His fight with Umar was entertaining because Umar has good enough grappling to not allow Merab to stall.

you thought that fight with Umar was boring? I didn't think so. I didn't think the O'malley fight was boring either.


A boring fight is a staring contest. A merab fight is constant fighting.

Each their own i guess.

 

[moosaev]

you thought that fight with Umar was boring? I didn't think so. I didn't think the O'malley fight was boring either.


A boring fight is a staring contest. A merab fight is constant fighting.

Each their own i guess.

I said the Umar fight was entertaining (not boring) because Umar has good enough grappling to nullify Merab’s stalling tactics. I thought the O’Malley fight was boring as hell, after Rd 1 I knew exactly how it would play out, there was no drama or mystery to it once the bell rang for Rd 2.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I said the Umar fight was entertaining (not boring) because Umar has good enough grappling to nullify Merab’s stalling tactics. I thought the O’Malley fight was boring as hell, after Rd 1 I knew exactly how it would play out, there was no drama or mystery to it once the bell rang for Rd 2.

I thought O'malley did better than umar and had moments late in the fight, actually won the last round. (hardest round to win against merab)

I think there is an argument that merab won all 5 rounds, I'd acknowledge that too.

 

[JoeRowe]

Yes and I'm disappointed we can no longer get Belal at +200 like could've in DEC. Hopefully Shavkat will still be favored at least slightly.

 

[moosaev]

I thought O'malley did better than umar and had moments late in the fight, actually won the last round. (hardest round to win against merab)

I think there is an argument that merab won all 5 rounds, I'd acknowledge that too.

There is zero argument that Merab won all 5, anybody who thinks that’s a remotely defensible scorecard watched the fight in a biased way. There’s a much better argument for Umar winning 3-2 than there is for Merab winning 5-0.

And the argument that O’Malley did better than Umar isn’t a serious argument, going into Rd 5 everyone knew O’Malley lost and needed a Hail Mary KO. Whereas with the Umar fight everyone knew whoever won rd 5 would’ve won the fight.

 

[RockyLockridge]

There is zero argument that Merab won all 5, anybody who thinks that’s a remotely defensible scorecard watched the fight in a biased way. There’s a much better argument for Umar winning 3-2 than there is for Merab winning 5-0.

And the argument that O’Malley did better than Umar isn’t a serious argument, going into Rd 5 everyone knew O’Malley lost and needed a Hail Mary KO. Whereas with the Umar fight everyone knew whoever won rd 5 would’ve won the fight.

I was talking about merab winning 5 rounds in the o'malley fight sorry for confusion.

O'malley won round 3 and 5 on judges score cards. as far as score cards go they did just as good as each other (49-46, 48-47x2) only major difference being Seans rounds were later in the fight, which are the harder rounds to win against merab. Umars rounds were early, And yes it gave him a chance to win the fight later, but he was spent. O'malley was not completely spent by round 5

 

[moosaev]

I was talking about merab winning 5 rounds in the o'malley fight sorry for confusion.

O'malley won round 3 and 5 on judges score cards. as far as score cards go they did just as good as eachother only major difference being Seans rounds were later in the fight, which are the harder rounds to win against merab

Without dissecting the score cards anybody who watched both fights saw that O’Malley had no chance of winning that fight short of a lucky KO. Umar took the fight down to the last 2 mins. The reason Umar fought Merab so competitively is because he didn’t allow Merab to stall. Against anyone else Merab has a boring style because they can’t stop his stalling.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Without dissecting the score cards anybody who watched both fights saw that O’Malley had no chance of winning that fight short of a lucky KO. Umar took the fight down to the last 2 mins. The reason Umar fought Merab so competitively is because he didn’t allow Merab to stall. Against anyone else Merab has a boring style because they can’t stop his stalling.

I enjoy watching him neutralize the best fighters in the world and drowning them in pace. I also enjoy Belal so i guess im definitely in the minority

To each their own.

 

[cburm]

Shavkat will finish belal

 

[swizztony]

Merab vs Umar was very close. I don’t think shavkat vs belal will be close at all, I think belal does him like he did Leon.

 

[Last Falconry]

Belal has basically one outcome that favors him. And he's really good at achieving that outcome! But Shavkat is bigger and younger and can win in a bunch of different ways. Just because one guy just won a fight weaponizing cardio doesn't mean we live in a new age of tireless grappling champions. Merab is unique

 

[BangBang]

Fuck no, lol

 

[mister piscadinha]

Does Belal have any submission game?

Because I don’t think Shav is that good of a wrestler as people were saying. Some even compared him to khabib or Khamzat both of whome I think are much better wrestlers.

Belal getting shav down and subbing him isn’t out of the question.


Or even taking a similar approach to Merab and going with relentlessly going for TDs and jabbing him up.

shavkat is not at a dominant wrestler at all

he's more like charles or dricus(but less of a physical freak), decent to good wrestling with good to very good bjj

 

[mister piscadinha]

Merab does way too much stalling. For all his pace, pressure and takedown attempts ultimately he doesn’t do much with it. If he incorporated GnP and submissions like Khabib it would be a different ball game. But cardio and pace by itself isn’t entertaining. That’s why he clowns around in the cage, he uses showmanship to make up for a lack of style.

yeah, it's a bit weird that he doesnt have a submission or positional game, cause aljo is all about that
i think a lot of fighters are content in just "coast" on whatever works and dont try adding things into their games

 

[moosaev]

yeah, it's a bit weird that he doesnt have a submission or positional game, cause aljo is all about that
i think a lot of fighters are content in just "coast" on whatever works and dont try adding things into their games

Does Merab ever train bjj? I don’t think I’ve ever seen him even attempt a sub

 

[Streeter]

Garry is a weirdo but just maybe he's also pretty good too..

Folks act like a hard fought won over Garry isxa knock on Shavat - Garry was un beaten too.. Shavat didn't fight murders row before the Garry fight either . Their resumes weren't far off .

Garry is much better than folks give credit to. A weirdo for certain but a good fighter.

What's his name is not going to "drown" Shav he just isn't he may win but it will either be a Shav finish or a close decision in a really good fight.