Why The Jon Jones Story Stinks!!!

It wasn't even a black man. If it was he'd be dead on account of running away right for us.
 
Slycho said:
I for one will reserve judgement because I know nothing of this situation and the details surrounding it.
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But, in my admitted ignorance, I WILL pull random, absurd conspiracy theories out of my bunghole...

Slycho said:
Is there no possible way that one of Jon's friends could have been driving the car with his paperwork in it? Is it possible that the woman could have exaggerated her injuries? Is it possible that Jones rammed her car at 100 MPH high on meth while he was attempting to escape from the drug kingpin he just robbed?
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WinZip said:
The police report is pretty clear. They found paper work with his name on it. This happened in Albuquerque, where Jones lives, and his face is on billboards. Is it so difficult to believe that Jon Jones was involved in this? Seriously? I tend to have a healthy dose of skepticism, but you're in denial. If he's innocent, why hasn't he come forward and turned himself in? Why can no one even find him? Why have his lawyers not returned calls to the police?

You can glue your eyes shut if you want, but don't expect people to follow you.
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Perhaps you need to up your skepticism dosage then cause Albuquerque is not some fishing village or rural farming area, it is a city with A LOT of people in it who have no clue who Jon Jones is.

No it is not difficult to believe in his involvement in this. That is why it is such a popular opinion to have.

Also at no point in time have I said he was innocent of anything. I did say that he is innocent until proven guilty and I have said that I will reserve my judgement because who the hell am I to place blame or criticize someone for something I know nothing about?

If I saw a short black man in Seattle wearing a shit that says " I am Mighty Mouse" running from a crime scene I wouldn't think it was Demetrious Johnson even if it looked like him and he had cardio for days lol...
 
WinZip said:
So, if you saw video of the accident and could clearly ID Jones, would you still say you won't assume anything? I'm just trying to gauge exactly how much evidence you'd need to be convinced of something, because it really seems to be an awful lot more than most people need since it's pretty easy to draw conclusions from facts for most people.
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Depends on the quality of evidence available but based on the evidence presented I could not convict Jones of anything to the best of my knowledge unless not reporting for voluntary questioning is a crime.
 
There's something waddling around by the duck pond making a quacking noise. It may be a little presumptuous of me to call it a duck, but I'm willing to run the risk of being wrong on the internet anyway.
 
billharford said:
I'm basing this off reading forums, tweets and TMZ, so make of it what you will. Admittedly, I don't know all the facts, but just based on what's been circulating - the Jon Jones story stinks. Have fun!

1. Jones has never been positively ID'd. An off-duty cop just so happened to be on the scene, in the early morning hours? Saw a man he "believed to be" Jon Jones? The "off-duty cop" is, of course, not identified in the TMZ article. The other piece of evidence for positive ID comes from the police report and is the convenient "paperwork belonging to Jonathan Jones with MMA information on it." No way this could ever be forged or duplicated.

2. The orgy of evidence. (With apologies to the movie Minority Report). "Jones", after the accident, runs from his vehicle, pauses (makes sure "he" is seen), then runs back and, without making any effort to conceal it, stuffs a huge wad of cash into his pants. However, conveniently doesn't bother to take the incriminating pipe filled with marijuana or the paperwork that identifies him as "Jon Jones the MMA Fighter"

3. Driving a rental? Why wasn't Jones driving one of his own cars when he was out locally? Whose name is the rental under?

4. Doesn't add up. Why would Jon Jones be smoking weed in the middle of training camp, after he just got busted for doing coke and knowing he could be tested at any moment? Is there an agreement in place to allow Jones to smoke? (If so, why not one for Nick Diaz, he's is probably as much of a draw as Jones is). Seems unlikely, seems like too much of a contrivance to have something like that in place with the ACs.

5. Is Jon Jones being set up? All of the circumstances that have been reported could have EASILY been contrived. The Johnny-on-the-spot off duty cop standing by to make the ID, the drugs and "paperwork" left in the vehicle, the conspicuous wad of cash, the rental to save the trouble of having to steal one of Jones' vehicles.

6. Did Jon Jones piss off the wrong people? Gamblers? Drug Dealers? Other underworld figures who would extort him or set him up? It's not as if Albuquerque is a place that is insulated from organized crime. And Jon certainly would not be the first athlete to get caught up with gangsters and suddenly find himself in over his head.
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Or maybe he's a young rich man with drug and drink problems.

Not the lizard people have decided to destroy him.

And fuck me.

This level of delusion requires meds.
 
Slycho said:
Perhaps you need to up your skepticism dosage then cause Albuquerque is not some fishing village or rural farming area, it is a city with A LOT of people in it who have no clue who Jon Jones is.

No it is not difficult to believe in his involvement in this. That is why it is such a popular opinion to have.

Also at no point in time have I said he was innocent of anything. I did say that he is innocent until proven guilty and I have said that I will reserve my judgement because who the hell am I to place blame or criticize someone for something I know nothing about?

If I saw a short black man in Seattle wearing a shit that says " I am Mighty Mouse" running from a crime scene I wouldn't think it was Demetrious Johnson even if it looked like him and he had cardio for days lol...
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All black people may look the same to you...
 
roggg said:
There's something waddling around by the duck pond making a quacking noise. It may be a little presumptuous of me to call it a duck, but I'm willing to run the risk of being wrong on the internet anyway.
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It was an alien from Galaxy 9121x being set up by intergalactic drug dealing gangsters.
 
Slycho said:
Depends on the quality of evidence available but based on the evidence presented I could not convict Jones of anything to the best of my knowledge unless not reporting for voluntary questioning is a crime.
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There are people on death row who have been convicted on flimsier evidence.
 
dr_hellno said:
But, in my admitted ignorance, I WILL pull random, absurd conspiracy theories out of my bunghole...
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I seriously don't understand how that I am supporting a conspiracy theory. It is presenting another possible (although extremely unlikely) side of the story. I have and will continue to support neutrality.

The only thing I have repeatedly said is for people to be less judgmental and so quick to assume things. You can pull all the out of context quotes you want and call them what you want but it doesn't change the fact that I am only supporting patience and human decency.

If you were accused of something, that perhaps you didn't do or were not aware of doing, I would be willing to bet you would want people to be as skeptical as possible on your behalf.
 
GrindingANARCHY said:
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hahahahahaha
 
amazing hahaha literally the funniest shit ive read since this story all broke, sad part is he believes it
 
warriorscomeout said:
There are people on death row who have been convicted on flimsier evidence.
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Prison industrial complex for the win!

But seriously, yeah there probably are and if I were a juror some of those trials would probably have taken longer at the very least.
 
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Dude if jones had nothing to do with it he would have posted on twitter and talked to the cops asap
 
roggg said:
There's something waddling around by the duck pond making a quacking noise. It may be a little presumptuous of me to call it a duck, but I'm willing to run the risk of being wrong on the internet anyway.
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You have reason to assume it is a duck if you want but I don't know what passes for a duck pond or a duck where you are from and I don't know you. So maybe its just a hunter in a blind with a duck call and an overly elaborate decoy. :icon_chee
 
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