Why Superman is the Greatest.

[TheRuthlessOne]

GOAT

 

[Hyperglide]

Special shout out to Nightcrawler. Fucking badass..



Hope to see some more of this in Apocalypse.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

Superman sucks. Easily the worst "super hero" When a character is nigh invincible except for the biggest deus ex machina in comic existence as his only weakness (besides lack of sunlight) and even then it doesn't kill him just weakens him then you have a boring superhero. He's also got no character flaws. Just boring.

I think personally Batman is the best. Cause he is a human first and a superhero second. He wears the cape and cowl to hide his human identity. Superman is the complete opposite. Clark Kent is his secret identity. Batman is just infinitely more interesting. He has real flaws, has to actually use skill in battle and can die at any moment so it makes his universe more tense and have stakes.

I would say the superhero with the best powers though is The Flash. Dude is OP as hell. He can murderlize anything but vibrating through them.

Completely disagree with your stance on kal el.

Let me clarify I am a batfan. The thing is I have always been fascinated by super heroes that were........wait for it.........wait for it...SUPER. Or at least have some gd powers.


Batman and his gadgets are cool. his villains save for rais al ghoul, are a lil campy and unbelievable. Esp for a character that is written from a point of plausible believability imho.

Martial arts master

Detective

Victim of street crime

What makes super man great is that you can lose yourself in the imagination of his origin his earthly and cosmic exploits his powers.

The fact that he can trounce anyone but has the self restraint and discipline Not to. for instance when superman had the chance to deal a killing blow to doomsday he did without restraint.

Batman would rather not kill the guy who killed robin, his parents and countless others.

If you have Bruce Wayne's money why not make a high tech inescapable prison where he won't have to keep dealing with these assholes? But No bats would rather deliver them to ark ham or Gordon were they promptly escape.

That's why I always preferred the punisher's brand of dealing with criminals. Anyway bats is going to win the poll and I know the movie is going to have Ben afflac pulling a shard of kryptonite out of his sphincter or something to beat kal


Still going to watch.

Also hyperglide......you and metal gear have been officially removed from my Christmas card list.

 

[Adamant]

Superman is GOAT

 

[Adamant]

Superman sucks. Easily the worst "super hero" When a character is nigh invincible except for the biggest deus ex machina in comic existence as his only weakness (besides lack of sunlight) and even then it doesn't kill him just weakens him then you have a boring superhero. He's also got no character flaws. Just boring.

Shows how little you know about Superman. He's Tiers above all the Earthly threats, but there's things out there that give him trouble. Even things that are tiers above him. Superman is there to fight the things that no one else can. You can't fault him for that.



Batman is the one who sucks. He's the literal definition of a deus ex machina.

 

[armbarforhire]

Only Dr.Strange, and Silver Surfer stand a chance against Superman in the MCU. unless we start matching him up against the Celestials, or the Beyonder or something

Thor, his powers are magical wich Superman is vulnerable to.

He also has been mind controlled by Maxwell Lord, so Professor Xavier or Jean Grey could could take him down since they miles above Mawell Lord.

 

[armbarforhire]

I just go by reaction times. No regular man could honestly respond fast enough for superman if he went balls out. Comic logic lol

Thing is Superman never goes balls out, I mean how many times has he break Lex Luthors neck ...exactly.

Clark going ballistic against some other hero in a fight is just VS topic logic, he never does it against Lex and Toyman who are actually villains.

 

[Mike]

Thing is Superman never goes balls out, I mean how many times has he break Lex Luthors neck ...exactly.

Clark going ballistic against some other hero in a fight is just VS topic logic, he never does it against Lex and Toyman who are actually villains.

He has the same no killing rule most good guys have. The fact that he could easily kill all those guys and doesn't is kind of the point.

 

[armbarforhire]

Why hasn't any bad guy made kryptonite bullets?

Has been done, thing is Kryptonite is scarce in the modern era, its basically more likely that gangs could get their hands in a nuclear bomb than kryptonite.

 

[armbarforhire]

He has the same no killing rule most good guys have. The fact that he could easily kill all those guys and doesn't is kind of the point.

Yes and no.

He could kill them, but he holds back a lot more than others (not just the no killing rule).

Lex has given him so much trouble and has never break his arms or something, in fact one time Lex became president of the USA and Superman just said he was not going to interfere.

Superman beating other guys will be out of characther, while other guys kicking Superman ass (in the case they could) isnt .

 

[Mike]

Yes and no.

He could kill them, but he holds back a lot more than others (not just the no killing rule).

Lex has given him so much trouble and has never break his arms or something, in fact one time Lex became president of the USA and Superman just said he was not going to interfere.

Superman beating other guys will be out of characther, while other guys kicking Superman ass (in the case they could) isnt .

Superman beats people up all the time. He can't really go nuts on humans because he'd turn them into a fine mist. He's put an absolute beating on guys in his weight class though. I mean he punched Lobo into space once because he forgot to hold back while punching him.

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

i am not a super hero guy, so i can't really speak on who is the strongest. but when i was younger, i was a big fan of the greatest american hero. in the opinion of those of you in the know, how would he have stacked up against the supermans, batmans, spidermans, etc. of the world?

 

[armbarforhire]

I mean look at the Deapool movie.

Colossus could easily kick Gina Caranos's characther ass. But his personality got in the way and he had to be saved from being choked.

Thinking Superman his going to blitz people and cut heads is more unrealistic than him holding back and getting his ass kicked .

 

[armbarforhire]

Superman beats people up all the time. He can't really go nuts on humans because he'd turn them into a fine mist. He's put an absolute beating on guys in his weight class though. I mean he punched Lobo into space once because he forgot to hold back while punching him.

So he has to hold back and he only sometimes hits people full force when they are in his weight class , its basically what im saying.

I mean even in the Lobo case he only punched him once, its not like he beat him in to a pulp over and over again , wich actually Lobo could take since he has a godly healing factor.

 

[Mike]

I mean look at the Deapool movie.

Colossus could easily kick Gina Caranos's characther ass. But his personality got in the way and he had to be saved from being choked.

Thinking Superman his going to blitz people and cut heads is more unrealistic than him holding back and getting his ass kicked .

Eh this is why most forums that debate this stuff seriously default to bloodlusted versions. Once you factor in the feels you can make an argument for any character to beat any other character regardless of power set. Boy scout rep or no he's put people down hard when he's needed to. Not being able to win against someone he can one shot with 1/100 of his strength is silly. Especially when he's literally thousands of times faster at a minimum.


I mean spiderman is a teddy bear too but he's one punched the punisher tons of times.

 

[Mike]

So he has to hold back and he only sometimes hits people full force when they are in his weight class , its basically what im saying.

I mean even in the Lobo case he only punched him once, its not like he beat him in to a pulp over and over again , wich actually Lobo could take since he has a godly healing factor.

He's beaten Mongol to a pulp many times, he beat Doomsday essentially to death. he's had crazy brawls with Lobo. He beat Darkseid to a pulp. He flew straight threw Kryptonite powered Metallo. He's beat up lots of dudes lots of times, he just doesn't punch guys into a paste like he could

 

[armbarforhire]

He's beaten Mongol to a pulp many times, he beat Doomsday essentially to death. he's had crazy brawls with Lobo. He beat Darkseid to a pulp. He flew straight threw Kryptonite powered Metallo. He's beat up lots of dudes lots of times, he just doesn't punch guys into a paste like he could

No he doesnt punch guys in to a paste like he could and when he does its only bad guys in his weight class, I dont even see whats your point , he holds back and will not use his full range of powers to fight other hero characther.

If Batman got some super armor and a krypronite ring to fight Superman , Superman will make sure he doesnt hurt Bruce (probably try to restrain him or try to dissarm him) while Bruce will try to at least KO Superman (if Supes did that he will run the risk of killing Batman) , this could lead to Superman losing the fight (edit I think Superman wins BTW).

Im just saying comic logic makes more sense than VS topic logic (Superman will cut Batman head by flying at super speed) .

 

[armbarforhire]

Eh this is why most forums that debate this stuff seriously default to bloodlusted versions. Once you factor in the feels you can make an argument for any character to beat any other character regardless of power set. Boy scout rep or no he's put people down hard when he's needed to. Not being able to win against someone he can one shot with 1/100 of his strength is silly. Especially when he's literally thousands of times faster at a minimum.


I mean spiderman is a teddy bear too but he's one punched the punisher tons of times.

Bloodlust version makes no sense, it disregards who the characther is to begin .

I see why people do it in VS topics, but under those rules Zod/Superman will basically be the same characther, when "realistically" they will act very differently.

 

[legomaheggroll]

silver surfer would murk superman.

 

[Mike]

Bloodlust version makes no sense, it disregards who the characther is to begin .

I see why people do it in VS topics, but under those rules Zod/Superman will basically be the same characther, when "realistically" they will act very differently.

People go too far the other way. Characters like Batman, Daredevil, Spiderman, Superman etc have proven that while they won't kill, they also won't let themselves BE killed, and aren't above beating someone's ass when necessary.