Why do fans pretend Tom is not the real duck?

[Substance Abuse]

Why is Tom not interested? Have you ever heard from Tom or the UFC ever that "a contract was given, Jon Jones avoided the fight"? Because Dana said "the fight was done", "Jon Jones never ducked, he did what we have said", "Jon Jones got his money".

> When Jon Jones said "Me, Tom and the UFC are allligned. We are just waiting them to tell the date and location" , Tom went on ESPN calling for JJ's retirement, saying "JJ is retired!!" ... Even the UK's (that bald Tom's friend) journalist was looking at Tom kinda ironically laughing on TmZ sports while Tom was "yeah... JJ has retired, let's not talk about him anymore!!" ... The UK journalist was "how come, Tom?". Then JJ ""retired"", Tom acted like "wow, I didn't see that coming!!"... And then JJ said "surprise MFs, ofc I'm not retired, I'm fighting whoever has the belt!!". And Tom "I'm not interested. I don't want to fight Jon Jones"

So... The question is, why are fans believing Tom and not seeing through the obvious act and who the REAL duck is?? Is Tom that good at trolling and speaking Sherdog's language? Tom might be McGregor in terms of being the biggest troll of MMA... Except McGregor fought tho. Tom is the #1 troll

Pretty close to losing thread starting privileges. Just a heads up, Puffy.

 

[mkess101]

There it goes. You have no example. And no, I haven't misquoted. Check the videos and see for yourself. It shouldn't be hard.

One I do remember off the top of my head was a Chael video. You quoted him, I watched it and it was NOT what he said. You then tried to spin that your quote was "what he meant". That's just one example. It's your M.O. and it makes absolutely zero difference if you reject or accept it. That's objective reality my guy.

 

[Luffy]

I'm not going back through the freaking dozens upon dozens of your threads trying to find the ones I looked at and saw it. Or randomly spending the time with all your crazy amount of other threads collecting examples.

I'm not saying this to be an asshole--that's why I specifically said I'm NOT debating it. I saw different examples previously and the reason I said I'm not debating it is because I absolutely don't care if you're "buying it" or not. If I happen across an example when I'm looking through, I'll note it but I'm not making it a research project.

Ok. You're wrong btw until you prove it. Fyi I haven't misquoted anything here in this thread. Check the videos on YouTube. I've already given you a heads up by pointing how to find them.

 

[ricc505]

He is supposed to give the idiot that wasted 2 years olf his career a shot? Plus he knows that Jones wouldnt show up anyway. He wouldnt fight Tom at 37 years of age for 30 fckn mill so there is no way he will fight him at 39 with the very high chance of getting Koed badly infront of the president and the entire world watching.

I know someone would have my answers on the first page and 2 of you got it. Why reward a guy who sucked you and further allow him to waste your career? Luffy still trying to impress someone who bullied him in real life

 

[Luffy]

One I do remember off the top of my head was a Chael video. You quoted him, I watched it and it was NOT what he said. You then tried to spin that your quote was "what he meant". That's just one example. It's your M.O. and it makes absolutely zero difference if you reject or accept it. That's objective reality my guy.

Which thread? Try to be less vague....

 

[Luffy]

Pretty close to losing thread starting privileges. Just a heads up, Puffy.

Explain why then, substance. Or is it going to be like last time you have given me yellow cards but couldn't explain why? What in this thread is against the rules?

Some administrator or another mod might chime in as well, as I don't think this is breaking any rules.

 

[markg171]

Pretty close to losing thread starting privileges. Just a heads up, Puffy.

 

[SuperNerd]

go die plz

 

[Substance Abuse]

 

[SuperNerd]

What's happened to this place?

I can't tell the difference between the lightweights and UFC section anymore.

 

[mkess101]

Which thread? Try to be less vague....

Which thread??? Please tell me you aren't serious. You start so many threads and this was weeks and weeks ago before your ban. Dude, GTFO if you think me or anyone could remember which specific thread out of you spamming the board with them.

Again, I'm not litigating this and I don't care if you acknowledge it or not. You wanna live in denial and pretend you're getting all these random quotes you chuck into posts nonstop correct, be my guest.

 

[Deleted member 517683]

You start with "I don't know what's wrong" then spend a paragraph diagnosing me with attention-seeking, addiction, "manlet syndrome", and a disorder. That's not discussion, that's cheap armchair psychology and ad hominem. It just makes you look cringe, actually, if you haven't realized.

Plus, it doesn't address a single point I've made... If a thread I do hits page 2 and I make a follow-up it's because ppl are engaging. If mods think it's spam, they'd lock it. If you think I'm breaking rules, quote the lines and report. If not (I don't think you even know what you're talking about btw), scroll or use the ignore feature... Speculating about disorders and height and wtv is just cringe... It sounds some sort of projection actually, if I'd guess so myself. And it's totally irrelevant to the topic. Like I said, I match tone. When ppl come respectfully, I stay there. When it turns personal, I've no reason to be nice. If you want "less weird controversy" then you are already setting a bad example by not arguing the substance.... Tell me where my reasoning is wrong, bring receipts and we can go point by point, which is the reason for the forum, to discuss about mma. Until then, keep on topic, not on me.

I see no reason to tell you the difference between speculation and diagnosis. And I´m not a therapist. I don´t think you really know what cringe means.
You open the main page and even without reading the name of the poster you know its Luffy with some shit. 60 - 70% of comments in ALL your threads are negative against you and your opinion and it has nothing to do with your topic, whatever weird it is. Mostly you have to defend your CRINGE stuff. And nothing you imagine for yourself, and how important you think your threads are, will change that.
Again: ask yourself if that is your goal to piss off the majority of users in this forum or if you wanna be respected. You are far away from being respected, btw. And if you are one of the few who gets on nearly all ignore lists because the mods will not ban you, for what ever reason, nobody reads your stuff at all. Think about that, because that is for sure not what a forum is about. And causing always controversy is not, too.

If you wanna have it you get want you want.

 

[Luffy]

Which thread??? Please tell me you aren't serious. You start so many threads and this was weeks and weeks ago before your ban. Dude, GTFO if you think me or anyone could remember which specific thread out of you spamming the board with them.

Again, I'm not litigating this and I don't care if you acknowledge it or not. You wanna live in denial and pretend you're getting all these random quotes you chuck into posts nonstop correct, be my guest.

Well, you're the one making the claim, so yes, I expect you to back it up. It's too easy to say "oh that thread". Burden of proof is on you as you made the claim. As expected, you've nothing then. Glad to know.

I see no reason to tell you the difference between speculation and diagnosis. And I´m not a therapist. I don´t think you really know what cringe means.
You open the main page and even without reading the name of the poster you know its Luffy with some shit. 60 - 70% of comments in ALL your threads are negative against you and your opinion and it has nothing to do with your topic, whatever weird it is. Mostly you have to defend your CRINGE stuff. And nothing you imagine for yourself, and how important you think your threads are, will change that.
Again: ask yourself if that is your goal to piss off the majority of users in this forum or if you wanna be respected. You are far away from being respected, btw. And if you are one of the few who gets on nearly all ignore lists because the mods will not ban you, for what ever reason, nobody reads your stuff at all. Think about that, because that is for sure not what a forum is about. And causing always controversy is not, too.

If you wanna have it you get want you want.

Yes, your post is just cringe stuff pretty much.... because you were playing Mr. Diagnostic (which is pretty lame btw) instead of arguing the topic. That wasn’t a clinical label from me, just a fedback on your approach so you can be better. Saying you “won’t explain speculation vs diagnosis” while speculating about me anyway is exactly the problem. You turned a debate into armchair psych, then tried to duck responsibility for it. That's cringe and shows you're talking mostly nonsense.

“60–70% negative replies” is not a rebuttal, it’s a headcount. Mobs don’t make arguments true. If something I wrote is wrong, quote the line and show why. Again, I repeat, receipts > vibes. “Be less controversial so people respect you” —> that's just emotional appeal. Respect isn’t won by appeasing the majority of a forum who isn't respectful in the first place... it’s earned by staying on topic, backing claims, and correcting when proven wrong. I’m here for that. I’m not here to play patient in your pop-psych script. So, you’ve got options... report, ignore, or scroll. What you don’t get is to play mr. Cringe by policing my reasons while dodging the when asked to back it up. So since you won't pick a claim I make to back what you said up and will keep resorting to "many ppl here" emotional fallacy, keep your cringe stuff out of my threads. It's not the place for you to vent whatever you have and think others have. So take your own advice.

 

[Deleted member 517683]

@Luffy


And your ignored, btw. Don´t take to much effort into it.

 

[Luffy]

Damn, you could at least have used a movie I didn't like as a kid lulz. Anyways, that's the right way.

 

[mkess101]

Well, you're the one making the claim, so yes, I expect you to back it up. It's too easy to say "oh that thread". Burden of proof is on you as you made the claim. As expected, you've nothing then. Glad to know.

Yes, your post is just cringe stuff pretty much.... because you were playing Mr. Diagnostic (which is pretty lame btw) instead of arguing the topic. That wasn’t a clinical label from me, just a fedback on your approach so you can be better. Saying you “won’t explain speculation vs diagnosis” while speculating about me anyway is exactly the problem. You turned a debate into armchair psych, then tried to duck responsibility for it. That's cringe and shows you're talking mostly nonsense.

“60–70% negative replies” is not a rebuttal, it’s a headcount. Mobs don’t make arguments true. If something I wrote is wrong, quote the line and show why. Again, I repeat, receipts > vibes. “Be less controversial so people respect you” —> that's just emotional appeal. Respect isn’t won by appeasing the majority of a forum who isn't respectful in the first place... it’s earned by staying on topic, backing claims, and correcting when proven wrong. I’m here for that. I’m not here to play patient in your pop-psych script. So, you’ve got options... report, ignore, or scroll. What you don’t get is to play mr. Cringe by policing my reasons while dodging the when asked to back it up. So since you won't pick a claim I make to back what you said up and will keep resorting to "many ppl here" emotional fallacy, keep your cringe stuff out of my threads. It's not the place for you to vent whatever you have and think others have. So take your own advice.

Yes, I made the (true) claim and you're insane if you think anyone would try to sift back through your hundreds of threads to find something. There's no burden of proof as I don't care whatsoever if you deny it or not. Almost everyone reading it knows I'm right, if you wanna pretend otherwise that's great. Have fun.

 

[Luffy]

Yes, I made the (true) claim and you're insane if you think anyone would try to sift back through your hundreds of threads to find something. There's no burden of proof as I don't care whatsoever if you deny it or not. Almost everyone reading it knows I'm right, if you wanna pretend otherwise that's great. Have fun.

"Almost everyone"... Yeah sure. Appealing to the crowd. Again, you should have the thread by its link ready if you were so sure. So I challenged you to show me where I misquoted fighters constantly. You mentioned an old Chael video which you can't even cite back and don't even remember what it's about. So you failed. If you remember the content at the very least, I can do your own homework for you and check the thread. I guess you don't remember tho and are likely talking out of you ass. It's ok tho, not anyone knows what burden of proof means. But it means you can't back up what you said, so you're wrong until you do. I'm waiting. Oh and do I need to show you how the comments I've mentioned here were said exactly like that by Tom Aspinall? I've given you the name of the videos but if you can't go to YouTube, I can do another homework for you too.

 

[mkess101]

"Almost everyone"... Yeah sure. Appealing to the crowd. Again, you should have the thread by its link ready if you were so sure. So I challenged you to show me where I misquoted fighters constantly. You mentioned an old Chael video which you can't even cite back and don't even remember what it's about. So you failed. If you remember the content at the very least, I can do your own homework for you and check the thread. I guess you don't remember tho and are likely talking out of you ass. It's ok tho, not anyone knows what burden of proof means. But it means you can't back up what you said, so you're wrong until you do. I'm waiting. Oh and do I need to show you how the comments I've mentioned here were said exactly like that by Tom Aspinall? I've given you the name of the videos but if you can't go to YouTube, I can do another homework for you too.

Bro, yes or no...do you post a ridiculous amount of threads here? And spam them with "fighter quotes". I should "have the link ready"? Why? I literally have told you multiple times I don't care if you deny it or not. I'm not trying to prove something to you that I already know to be true. Especially because your M.O. is to spin and dodge so I'd take all that time and for what? So you can do something like pretend you didn't claim FOR WEEKS that Jones and Aspinall already fought? And you were DEAD SERIOUS. You gonna deny that too?

 

[Luffy]

@mkess101

Bro, yes or no...do you post a ridiculous amount of threads here?

What? Changing goal posts?

And spam them with "fighter quotes".

I back them up with fighter quotes. Search for what spam is.

I should "have the link ready"? Why?

Because in this very thread I provided literal quotes. You said I soon them hence they weren't valid. I say I did not and offered you the videos. You changed goal posts by saying there were other instance I've done that. I asked the specifics and you couldn't deliver. So I guess you have no counter to the point I made on this thread, unless you contradict what the fighters said. Again, watch the interview I mentioned above. The two videos actually. Does it say exactly what I quoted? Yes? Then my point stands. You're arguing nothing.

So you can do something like pretend you didn't claim FOR WEEKS that Jones and Aspinall already fought? And you were DEAD SERIOUS. You gonna deny that too?

Again, pivoting to this point. It has no relevance to fighters' quotes. You stick to this one only because it's the only point you have of something baseless I said, which I've already admitted. But you go back to this as your standard move even when it has no relevance to the subject. That's conveniently moving goal posts to avoid addressing the topic at hand. Again, are you going to back up yourself this time or keep dodging?

 

[mkess101]

@mkess101

What? Changing goal posts?

I back them up with fighter quotes. Search for what spam is.

Because in this very thread I provided literal quotes. You said I soon them hence they weren't valid. I say I did not and offered you the videos. You changed goal posts by saying there were other instance I've done that. I asked the specifics and you couldn't deliver. So I guess you have no counter to the point I made on this thread, unless you contradict what the fighters said. Again, watch the interview I mentioned above. The two videos actually. Does it say exactly what I quoted? Yes? Then my point stands. You're arguing nothing.

Again, pivoting to this point. It has no relevance to fighters' quotes. You stick to this one only because it's the only point you have of something baseless I said, which I've already admitted. But you go back to this as your standard move even when it has no relevance to the subject. That's conveniently moving goal posts to avoid addressing the topic at hand. Again, are you going to back up yourself this time or keep dodging?

Yes, I go back to "that one" because you posted novels about it over and over for WEEKS. It's not "moving goalposts", it's showing your (lack of) credibility. "Just because I made shit up before...that's irrelevant! Now I want you to sift back through the hundreds and hundreds of long winded posts I've made to find evidence of me making more shit up. And if you don't, it means you can't back up your claim!"

You ruined your own credibility, Luff. That's not my fault, and it's not my responsibility to KEEP proving that this is your M.O. It's established, and while you may not like that...reality doesn't care.