Why are 90% of Shertards always bashing Holm and being so blind to her skill set?

[Paradigm]

And she fought 7 woman in her last 10 with amazing records. One of them was the other top woman in the world who she fought twice.

Well on your horrible GSP point, I would guess the womans WW division is a little thinner than GSP's but ya your analysis is amazing.

Her last 4 were against top woman and she fought the other top woman in the world throughout her career.

What is your shitty point again?

whats my shitty point again? it doesnt even matter because your troll account here will be gone soon enough anyways. not that id snitch you out but im sure itll work itself out.

 

[FinBJJ]

Because she couldn't even finish a soccer mom or some chubby who looks like she was just randomly picked from a trailer park.

 

[Sgt Smith]

Um, because most sherdoggers share a max IQ with the UFC event number at the time of the Pride HW GP in 2006...

I thought I'd use an equation that was relatable.

 

[nintey]

She hasn't looked comfortable in the octagon yet, no reason to think she'll be any better against Ronda. She needed more time. The ufc needs to let some of her opponents build up much like they should have let Horiguchi have a few more fights before fighting DJ.

 

[LayonJesus]

whats my shitty point again? it doesnt even matter because your troll account here will be gone soon enough anyways. not that id snitch you out but im sure itll work itself out.

Troll account? that is what you resort to now?

I am posting facts and have actually watched her fight while you go read boxrec and try to act as if you are informed.

But ya im the troll.

 

[The Judas Pig]

90% of them have never been in a real fight and have no idea what they are watching.

Or maybe they have actually watched her fight and realised that she isn't all that good in MMA.

Have you watched her fights, if so what chance do you give her of winning?

 

[LayonJesus]

Where did I say watching her fights is a bad thing? I said you were a fan. Not the same thing buddy.

And the reason I doubt that was the only reason is because she's fighting at fucking casino's. I get the women's demographic is small, but unless you have some numbers (which I'd love to see btw), to support that theory then I doubt that was the only reason.

And regardless, fighting in your home state EVERY SINGLE FIGHT is a huge advantage, especially with the judges, and especially at the casino level. That's a common fact of boxing as well.

So, you can claim it is because of demographics. That still doesn't change the fact she had a pro-Holly crowd at every fight, in a sport where lower level judges often support the hometown fighter.

Again, she's had a rather protected career. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Not going to argue that part. But you have to be able to realize that much.

What is this casino level you speak of? I guess every boxer who doesnt fight at MSG and only fights at MGM is on that casino level.

I mean come on man, you have never seen her boxing matches, you dont know anything about womans boxing and yet you continue to try and debate it.

I will just leave it at that.

Go look up some of the numbers if you are interested like you said, its not very hard to use google. Go look up what she was making compared to other woman boxers.

Inform yourself on the topic and then maybe come back with a valid point.

Your entire argument is that she had a protected career because she fought in her home state.

 

[Paradigm]

Troll account? that is what you resort to now?

I am posting facts and have actually watched her fight while you go read boxrec and try to act as if you are informed.

But ya im the troll.

thats great. wont matter how many fights of hers you or i have seen when this thread gets bumped January 2nd.

i mean...there wont be much reason for you to post on here after Rousey takes her out, right? and who gives a shit what she did in boxing...shes got a much tougher challenge now in a different sport.

btw, how come this fight never happened?

 

[Melas Chasma]

Because she couldn't even finish a soccer mom or some chubby who looks like she was just randomly picked from a trailer park.

I think you are wrong. Im pretty sure both opponents were professional MMA fighters.

 

[Sigmafight]

For me it's because she's the equivalent of a wrestler. See, i don't just hate on wrestlers for no reason, it's because a lot of them have no fight ending intentions. They just want to ride on your nutsack untill youre both tired as fuck, and they grab the decision.

It's the same with Holm. Nothing she ever throws is with fight ending intentions. Her entire game is based around pointing someone, and it's boring.

 

[joest]

I've only seen one of Holm's fights, but in that fight she was taken down easily by a mediocre fighter. I don't care how good of a boxer she is, she will not be able to stay on her feet. She will get destroyed.

I have watched a lot of Holms fights and I have not seen her taken down. What fight are you talking about.

I think people underestimate the strength difference between Ronda and a lot of the girls she has fought against. She will not have that luxury with HH. I can still see her pulling off a win but if she rushes in like people say she will get folded in two with that onorthodox front kick.

Anyways, should be a good fight. Like I said in another thread, reminds me a bit of Wand vs CroCop. That one was decided by rib kicks early on. lets see how this one goes

 

[Melas Chasma]

I think people underestimate the strength difference between Ronda and a lot of the girls she has fought against.

Exactly. Ronda is likely going to dominate, but Holm is one of the toughest challengers she has yet to faced. Size and strength arent big factor`s only in mens MMA.

 

[Kelman]

Is it because:

a) They hate Ronda and her hype so much, that whenever they think her opponent "has a zero chance" they release their frustration also towards that opponent who has done nothing to deserve that hate.

b) Their average IQ is so low they think not having X amount of ranked wins/being unproven = bad fighter.

c) They havent really payed any attention at all to Holm`s skill set, so they are just crying in chorus how she is going to lose in 30 seconds despite everything in Holm`s and Jackson/Winkeljohn`s approach to a fight game indicates otherwise. They also havent noticed how strong and athletic she is, how good defensive wrestling she has etc.

d) All above?

e) The evidence of her 2 UFC fights plus her stylistic disadvantage vs Ronda.

Holm is nowhere near Ronda's level, and is going to get absolutely mauled and finished early. I'll bookmark this thread now with the sole intention of returning to mock you after RR wipes the horribly overmatched HH out in a matter of seconds, and you see the extreme folly of your ways, you ill-informed fanboy goon.

 

[Mau]

Because of hysh hyah

 

[Ashenthorn]

Sure, I can see Holm evading Rousey on the outside for some period of time,

I can too, but I can't envision that period of time being more than 10 seconds.

 

[Mammothman]

Maybe because Holm last two performance were underwhelming?

 

[Ashenthorn]

I have watched a lot of Holms fights and I have not seen her taken down. What fight are you talking about.

Here are all the times Holm has gone to the ground in MMA. Not very much to go on here.

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[joest]

Here are all the times Holm has gone to the ground in MMA.

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Thank you, that is good service!

Seems that all but the last were catches of poorly set up Thai kicks. I think she has already adapted her style to an extent but definitely a concern (you see her using more JKD/Savate style side kicks when going for the body). It isn't clear to me how she got her head caught in the last bit.

 

[Azathoth]

Holm who?

 

[JDawg9]

I'm not sure about hating but she's going to lose, she looked pretty mediocre in her ufc career and rousey hasn't showed much in slowing down. Stylistically holm has some advantages but unless it turns into a Liddell vs rampage were rampage looked like ass in his recent fights and really comes and delievers when it's needed in the title fight I can't see it being anything more than another r1 finish for rousey.