What made Islam so much difficult for JDM?

[balkanbomber85]

your brain a little stupid

you are offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

 

[ssBaldy]

That’s your response to me when I linked something what JDM actually said? Answering the question in the topic.
He was shocked how strong his opponent was and they didn’t prepare for that. Only thing what had changed was his opponent taking russian creatine. These are just facts, go cry somewhere else.

And Volk was not especially impressed by Islam's S&C after fighting him x2, so what?
Islam mopped the octagon canvas with JDM, so what JDM says matters little. He either does not have elite S&C himself, or tries to come up with something to not look as bad.

 

[Conan the K-9]

And Volk was not especially impressed by Islam's S&C after fighting him x2, so what?
Islam mopped the octagon canvas with JDM, so what JDM says matters little. He either does not have elite S&C himself, or tries to come up with something to not look as bad.

Yes, what ever made the huge difference in strength, it was that what they were not able to prepare for in his training camp. The other team seemed to have time to change their usual training regime and succeed to surprise their opposing team with it.
What ever it was that made the difference, no need for you to get mad about it.

 

[ssBaldy]

Yes, what ever made the huge difference in strength, it was that what they were not able to prepare for in his training camp. The other team seemed to have time to change their usual training regime and succeed to surprise their opposing team with it.
What ever it was that made the difference, no need for you to get mad about it.

I am just sick and tired by "only Russians do PEDs" narrative. Maddalena and Makhachev get tested by the same controlling body and none of them popped. And everyone with a bit of MMA knowledge know that it was not strength and conditioning that won Islam that fight.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Yes, what ever made the huge difference in strength, it was that what they were not able to prepare for in his training camp. The other team seemed to have time to change their usual training regime and succeed to surprise their opposing team with it.
What ever it was that made the difference, no need for you to get mad about it.

my man, they now get mad when you point out that "their figher" simply had 3 times the time to prepare... like, are we now not allowed to point that out? do we have to pretend that having 9 months of specific training is worse than coming of a 5 round fight and jumping right back into training?

 

[Conan the K-9]

I am just sick and tired by "only Russians do PEDs" narrative. Maddalena and Makhachev get tested by the same controlling body and none of them popped. And everyone with a bit of MMA knowledge know that it was not strength and conditioning that won Islam that fight.

Lol, I don’t think there are such narrative that ONLY ruskies do peds. Athletes have different resources and some have better than others and more systematic than others.
There is also a huge difference in the budget for different fighters training camps and some have “godfathers” who pay for their training camps and some have to pay everything from their own pockets.
One has to be really naive not to understand that.

 

[Conan the K-9]

my man, they now get mad when you point out that "their figher" simply had 3 times the time to prepare... like, are we now not allowed to point that out? do we have to pretend that having 9 months of specific training is worse than coming of a 5 round fight and jumping right back into training?

It seems like the truth is something that needs to be hidden and censored, not to offend anyone and hurt their feelings. Only fitting narratives are allowed to be told, because that keeps the theater going.
What a joke of a fanbase this is.

 

[ssBaldy]

Lol, I don’t think there are such narrative that ONLY ruskies do peds. Athletes have different resources and some have better than others and more systematic than others.
There is also a huge difference in the budget for different fighters training camps and some have “godfathers” who pay for their training camps and some have to pay everything from their own pockets.
One has to be really naive not to understand that.

I never said all training camps are the same, I am not arguing with some fighters havihg better preparation than the others. Makhachev surely enjoys the best training methods and coaches money can buy.

 

[Harlekin]

18 to 30 significant strikes. Islam made it a no show

Grappler vs Boxer:

Grappler: You stay out of boxing range via kicking.
Boxer: Can't kick you much or else gets taken down.

As soon as the boxer goes into boxing range, you take him down.
If you can take him down, you won, which happened.

 

[Chagaev]

Islam's not a Dagestani wrestler, he has been training for a long time to adapt efficient techniques for MMA.

He looked more diverse even on the feet than JDM and used that to set up the TD. That's a lot more difficult to defend than Ramzan telegraphed TD.

On the ground he may or may not have that much of a physical strength advantage. A small dude that can use leverage better feels like he weighs a ton. Poirier wasn't that impressed.

 

[Conan the K-9]

On the ground he may or may not have that much of a physical strength advantage. A small dude that can use leverage better feels like he weighs a ton. Poirier wasn't that impressed.

I think the only other one of his opponents, who has talked about his strength is Bobby Green who fought him short notice at 160 catch weight. I think that had more to do with Green coming straight from vacation and not preparing at all for the fight, and was cutting over 35lbs in a couple of days. For sure that is a disadvantage and makes you feel weaker.
The other lightweights who fought him at LW didn’t think that he was somehow significantly stronger.

 

[legedema]

you are offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

ha ha, stupidity on another level.
you should be the last one talking about shame.
be ashamed of your stupid posts.our level is reaching

 

[World eater]

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Welcome back sir!

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

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Here's a high level bum

elite

 

[balkanbomber85]

ha ha, stupidity on another level.
you should be the last one talking about shame.
be ashamed of your stupid posts.our level is reaching

My man, I would really like to sit here and read your mental gymnastics about why, in this one single particular case, having three times more preparation time than your opponent—including him having a fight in between—is actually worse than just having just 3 months to prepare for your opponent. Really.

But you know, fairytale hour was a thing three and a half decades ago, and I really don’t have the time or nerves for that. So, just go on.

 

[HHJ]

Islam is better than whoever that other guy was.

 

[MMACro]

Preparation time!

Islames last LW fight was in January against Moicano, who was not even in the Top 10, and a month later Daner announced that Bilel and JDM would fight in May.

So Islame knew that JDM was a possible fight for him, and he had time to start preparing for him as early as February, all while JDM was preparing for Bilel. I know, I know, he did not have a 10 month fight camp. But does anyone here want to say with a straight face that Islame was just sitting at home, playing with his horses? LOL. Not even the biggest bathtubber can deny that the guy was preparing for JDM from the beginning of this year, doing specific training for him. On top of that, he had the entire fight in May to watch and study, while JDM had to take a break after a long preparation and a five round fight.

Moreover, Islame knew with complete certainty that he would fight JDM at MSG in the autumn, even before the contracts were signed. The official announcement came in August, by which point Islame already had around six to seven months of preparation. JDM most likely did not start preparing for Islame until August, giving him roughly three months or less. Sure, three months is the standard preparation time. However, if your opponent has had roughly three times as long to specifically prepare for you, you do not need to be a genius to see who had the advantage.

Now turn the tables and give JDM nine to ten months of training, while Islame has a fight in between, and JDM would look much better than he did. I am not even claiming he would win, but he would definitely look different. Just look what Volk could do with like 3-4 months of preparation and bulk up time in comparison to the 2nd fight when they pulled him off the couch and after he had surgery.

How dares he preparing for the title fight!
Just wow as usual LMAO

 

[HHJ]

How dares he preparing for the title fight!
Just wow as usual LMAO

JDM could have prepared for two years, the result would be the same.

 

[Hassan Mouzine]

Preparation time!

Islames last LW fight was in January against Moicano, who was not even in the Top 10, and a month later Daner announced that Bilel and JDM would fight in May.

So Islame knew that JDM was a possible fight for him, and he had time to start preparing for him as early as February, all while JDM was preparing for Bilel. I know, I know, he did not have a 10 month fight camp. But does anyone here want to say with a straight face that Islame was just sitting at home, playing with his horses? LOL. Not even the biggest bathtubber can deny that the guy was preparing for JDM from the beginning of this year, doing specific training for him. On top of that, he had the entire fight in May to watch and study, while JDM had to take a break after a long preparation and a five round fight.

Moreover, Islame knew with complete certainty that he would fight JDM at MSG in the autumn, even before the contracts were signed. The official announcement came in August, by which point Islame already had around six to seven months of preparation. JDM most likely did not start preparing for Islame until August, giving him roughly three months or less. Sure, three months is the standard preparation time. However, if your opponent has had roughly three times as long to specifically prepare for you, you do not need to be a genius to see who had the advantage.

Now turn the tables and give JDM nine to ten months of training, while Islame has a fight in between, and JDM would look much better than he did. I am not even claiming he would win, but he would definitely look different. Just look what Volk could do with like 3-4 months of preparation and bulk up time in comparison to the 2nd fight when they pulled him off the couch and after he had surgery.

this to me sounds like no 1 bullshit, but to each their own opinion of course.

It wasn't a close fight or a fifht where JDM had good moments and with some adjustments and more preparation time he could have won. It looked like 'there are levels to this shit'. JDM would have to go back in time and spend a lifetime of grappling to close the gap. Mind you.....even in the striking department Islam showed new improvements and looked like the better striker. People still sleep on Islams striking, footwork, measured pace and mixing it up. Islams striking is high level for MMA standards. In no way, shape or form did I ever see in the fight that Islams striking was behind JDM's but the grappling of JDM was light years behind Islams grappling. This is not a gap you can close with a couple of monts of more preperation time. What was most impressive to me.....is that him shooting for a takedown looked so fast and explosive, GSP style. It looked like welterweight is his natural weight class

And if there ever will be a rematch....Islamn will have probably improved his striking again and also adapted even better to the weight class. Islam is scary.....he is an all time great and still improving. Watch his striking from only a couple of fights back till the JDM fight....he can do it all, much more wellrounded than JDM who didn throw a single kick that I can remember. The look on JDM's face said it all: he knew he was up against a fighter that was that much better than him and not only with 1 aspect.

 

[balkanbomber85]

I just love how Bathtubbers and their close ones cannot even accept the fact that Islame had far more preparation time for JDM than vice versa. This is absolutely not “pulled out of thin air” — it’s factual. And moreover, it’s absolutely ridiculous that anyone tries to explain to all of us how having 10 months of training for one guy is not an advantage over having one more fight in those 10 months and only starting to train for the specific guy 3 months before the fight. I swear, the mental gymnastics some of you are willing to sell here just to defend your guy is insane. And I did not even say it’s illegal what he did — no, I just said it’s a clear advantage, and usually every single Shermano would agree, except when it comes to the Bathtubbers.

Like, my dudes, it’s pure math:

• Islame’s last fight was in January 2025. From then on, he basically knew that if JDM won in May, he would move up. So what did he do between January and May? Train for JDM, obviously.
• JDM fought Bilel in May 2025 and had been preparing for him since February after the fight was announced — all while Islame could train specifically for JDM.
• JDM then won the title in a 5-round fight in May.
• This gave Islame even more video material to study and allowed him to fine-tune his training in detail.
• The fight between Islame and JDM was officially announced in August.
• Both fighters then start training for their fight, but only one had been preparing for the other since February. The other just started in August after resting some time after a 5 round championship fight.