International What is everyones thoughts on a war with Venezuela?

[filthybliss]

Trump is saber-rattling a war with them. I understand that Maduro is a thug, but he is one of many in the world. We do business with several thugs like the Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Qatar Monarchies. Granted, our country is already in debt and we don't have many allies given Trump's behavior regarding Ukraine. This mission would end up entirely off the backs and financial well-being of everyday Americans and it posesses an extremely low probability of success.

There isn't any armed faction in opposition against Maduro that we could push over the hump with intervention. We would just be attacking a country and hoping that something good happens as we tear apart their standards of living.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

There isn't any armed faction in opposition against Maduro that we could push over the hump with intervention. We would just be attacking a country and hoping that something good happens as we tear apart their standards of living.

That's as American as apple pie.

 

[Staph infection]

They have some of that sweet sweet oil. I am shocked we have not gone down there already to spread some Western democracy.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Honestly, this is exactly what I would consider a justified war. Not like Iraq, middle eastern wars etc. This countries government is in colluding with criminals to distribute drugs to the U.S. IMO, if Trump wasn't so hell bent on keeping out of wars, and the history of needless US wars, this would actually be a no brainer. This is the kind of foreign government that needs to be out of power which directly impacts the lives of Americans.

My gut tells me Trump will strike drug targets, but no boots on the ground

Do you want these labs to continue to make drugs to smuggle or do you just cut off the head and stop production? Obviously, the best course of action is to destroy the production facilities, the only problem is trying to rationally explain this to Americans would be difficult. Americans have PTSD from all the wars they've started, and now they don't want any. I get it, but wars can still be justified today, under circumstances such as this, imo.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

He'd be retarded to do it. huge mistake.

 

[Rob Battisti]

would be a bad move

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

He's just trying to distract from molesting kids with epstein

 

[DoctorTaco]

. This countries government is in colluding with criminals to distribute drugs to the U.S.

source?

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

source?

The US government. Not sure which one might have been hegseth or rubio but they said it in an interview on tv. They were very clear that the government was involved in this.

 

[DoctorTaco]

The US government. Not sure which one might have been hegseth or rubio but they said it in an interview on tv.

I can’t find any articles or evidence of this. It would certainly change the narrative if it were true

 

[Islam Imamate]

Trump is saber-rattling a war with them. I understand that Maduro is a thug, but he is one of many in the world. We do business with several thugs like the Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Qatar Monarchies. Granted, our country is already in debt and we don't have many allies given Trump's behavior regarding Ukraine. This mission would end up entirely off the backs and financial well-being of everyday Americans and it posesses an extremely low probability of success.

There isn't any armed faction in opposition against Maduro that we could push over the hump with intervention. We would just be attacking a country and hoping that something good happens as we tear apart their standards of living.

I'm not in principle against regime change in Venezuela by force but the Trump admin is too malicious and incompetent to be trusted with something like regime change. The war hasn't even started and they're already committing war crimes.

 

[mozfonky]

Well, if we need their oil...

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

I can’t find any articles or evidence of this. It would certainly change the narrative if it were true

I'm not surprised there are no articles on it. They definitely said it though, I heard it with my own ears.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

I think he should release the files and not bully third world countries to take our attention away from that.

 

[DoctorTaco]

The US government. Not sure which one might have been hegseth or rubio but they said it in an interview on tv. They were very clear that the government was involved in this.

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/u-s-eyes-striking-venezuelan-military-targets-used-for-drug-trafficking-cafcfe47?

Best I could do. The claim is the Venezuelan military is using its facilities to traffic drugs. No evidence has been brought forth, just this claim from anonymous sources.

I guess it comes down to whether or not you want to take the administrations word for it. Personally, that’s not enough for me.

 

[TUFNewb]

Is the Venezuelan government, at the highest levels, actually conspiring with transnational criminal orgs to smuggle narcotics into America? Or is that bullshit?

 

[mozfonky]

Honestly, this is exactly what I would consider a justified war. Not like Iraq, middle eastern wars etc. This countries government is in colluding with criminals to distribute drugs to the U.S. IMO, if Trump wasn't so hell bent on keeping out of wars, and the history of needless US wars, this would actually be a no brainer. This is the kind of foreign government that needs to be out of power which directly impacts the lives of Americans.

My gut tells me Trump will strike drug targets, but no boots on the ground

Do you want these labs to continue to make drugs to smuggle or do you just cut off the head and stop production? Obviously, the best course of action is to destroy the production facilities, the only problem is trying to rationally explain this to Americans would be difficult. Americans have PTSD from all the wars they've started, and now they don't want any. I get it, but wars can still be justified today, under circumstances such as this, imo.

Doesn't Mexico do the manufacturing too?

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/u-s-eyes-striking-venezuelan-military-targets-used-for-drug-trafficking-cafcfe47?

Best I could do. The claim is the Venezuelan military is using its facilities to traffic drugs. No evidence has been brought forth, just this claim from anonymous sources.

I guess it comes down to whether or not you want to take the administrations word for it. Personally, that’s not enough for me.

I do take their word for it. Even without "evidence" I would have said it was plausible, and apparently they have intelligence that has confirmed it. I see no reason to think they're lying.

 

[Pittie Petey]

Member when the tariffs were about Fentanyl...

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Doesn't Mexico do the manufacturing too?

I personally would be all for the American army wiping out the cartels with the joint cooperation of the mexican military. The fact that the Mexican president doesn't want this is concerning.