Opinion What do you think of white nationalism?

[carlos cadona]

I view racial nationalism as the number 2 most cancerous political ideology with theocratic religious extremism being the number 1 most cancerous. White nationalism is mostly just an internet thing these days and hasn't caused a state sponsored massacre in several decades but racial nationalism applied to other races is still dangerous. So I view white nationalism as an irrelevant subgroup of racial nationalism.

 

[FrankensteinMMA]

I guess the point is would you be chanting Ireland as an American?

sure why not? doesnt mean I prefer it over america.

giving support to the foreighner that deserves it isnt a bad thing.

americans are of mixed heritage...in the heart of it all we should not forget our forefathers.

temporary praise for another country shows that americans are humble.

 

[lfd0311]

I'm a white Conservative. I've never heard a White Nationalist talk and thought "gee, that guy made some really solid points"

 

[nixkid]

Welcome to Sherfront.

 

[brewski]

Jared Taylor for President

 

[Guestx]

I don't know any admirable people who are white nationalists. All the white nationalists I know are pretty shitty people, something that speaks volumes to me.

This I think is the biggest problem with the movement. I don't know anyone personally who claims to be a white nationalist, but the people that I've run into online or have seen in documentaries and the like are all white trash motherfuckers that I wouldn't want anything to do with. I'm like, "So if we build this white state I gotta live around people like YOU?" That does not make it an attractive proposition.

I think they would certainly find more success if, instead of a bunch of dirty ignorant fucks, the WN movement was composed of well-mannered educated people who could eloquently explain their position.

It does seem like something like that is trying to happen, though. Just reading about, I found out about a think tank called the National Policy Institute. It's headed by this guy:

According to their website:

NPI is an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of European descent in the United States, and around the world.

They've been getting some press lately.

 

[Guestx]

What people dislike mostly is that once safe and prosperous places have been utterly ruined by multiculturalism.

This x 100

 

[Guestx]

I've traveled this side of the world fairly extensively including the brown American countries, met first wife in Bolivia.

I'm mostly a xenophile.
I wouldn't be able to stand only seeing white faces everywhere.
I don't want white versions of Mexican or Asian food when I eat ethnic.
I don't want to look at or date only white women.
Life needs more than just one flavor.

At least, mine does.

Well that would at least be the benefit for white people to have a geographical to call their own. Those that want more diversity can have it and those that don't, don't have to.

 

[Guestx]

I generally agree with what you said. I'm fine with black nationalism and white Nationalism. I'm not a racial supremacist but I understand the feeling of wanting to live around people similar to you. Honestly, I think it is mostly a reaction to the Anti white rhetoric in the media and in parts of politics. Also, I think it is a reaction to seeing other races and cultures celebrated but not having your own recognized in the same way.

Pretty much. The white race is the only one that is currently being institutionally shamed.

 

[Guestx]

Isnt that an oxymoron? you claim to be about nationalism, yet you claim that what unites people is race not ethnic, cultural and religious differences?

White nationalism is an oxymoron, because it involves tearing down national identities based on race, similar to how islam cant be nationalist because it tears down borders based on religion.

Racialism is a globalist movement, not a nationalist movement, not that i care much about it.

Mmm, I don't claim to be about white nationalism, but I do think that we as a race need to champion ourselves in the same way that other races do. Like I said earlier, I don't think that to be pro your own group means you have to be anti-other groups.

In regard to "coming together as people," I don't think that has to be geographically. I was more speaking along the lines of coming together in cooperation.

I remember once hearing a presentation on the WN movement and the guy giving it said that people of other races would still be welcome to come and visit via a Visa system and there would still be cultural exchanges. It would just be that for residency you would have to be white.

That didn't sound unreasonable to me.

 

[Guestx]

It's dumb as fuck. Go ahead, waste your life fantasizing about a place where there is only white people. It's just mental masturbation.

Furthermore, why are you talking about this like it's as easy as making a sandwich? You want a "geographical area to build a white nation to live amongst themselves." The age of conquest is over. You're going to have take territory, you're going to need to be organized, you're going to need an army. No one is giving you shit, and there isn't even a "you" to give shit to. Just some idiots fantasizing on the internet.

Just engaging in conversation and having an intellectual exercise. Like you say, on a practical level there are plenty of obstacles.

 

[Rod1]

Mmm, I don't claim to be about white nationalism, but I do think that we as a race need to champion ourselves in the same way that other races do. Like I said earlier, I don't think that to be pro your own group means you have to be anti-other groups.

In regard to "coming together as people," I don't think that has to be geographically. I was more speaking along the lines of coming together in cooperation.

I remember once hearing a presentation on the WN movement and the guy giving it said that people of other races would still be welcome to come and visit via a Visa system and there would still be cultural exchanges. It would just be that for residency you would have to be white.

That didn't sound unreasonable to me.

Which people align themselves on race rather than other differences?

Who are the non-white racial nationalists?

 

[Guestx]

Which people align themselves on race rather than other differences?

Who are the non-white racial nationalists?

At least in the US, there have been black nationalist groups and movements throughout the years and there continues to be activity on this front today.

 

[Rod1]

At least in the US, there have been black nationalist groups and movements throughout the years and there continues to be activity on this front today.

So just black slave-descendants?

 

[7437]

Whites are 8 percent of the worlds population and all of their countires are accepting mass immigration, while their media promotes interracial relationships, and ry. Not only that, but whites are getting murdered everyday by different races due to hate and the media covers up the cases.

Wtf is goin on here.

This is how i imagine all white nationalists think

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are praised for their diversity? I don't think so.
Unless "diversity" now means "tribal as hell". Although maybe you were just using it as a pejorative for non-whites?

They have different and arguably superior cultures. According to a professor I once had.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Just engaging in conversation and having an intellectual exercise. Like you say, on a practical level there are plenty of obstacles.

How is seriously discussing a fantasy an intellectual exercise?

P.S. If "plenty of obstacles" is how you describe the barriers to this, then you are completely out of touch with reality. It's obvious you have spent way too much time with people that talk about this shit.

 

[Guestx]

How is seriously discussing a fantasy an intellectual exercise?

P.S. If "plenty of obstacles" is how you describe the barriers to this, then you are completely out of touch with reality. It's obvious you have spent way too much time with people that talk about this shit.

Damn bro, why the hostility?

First off, intellectual exercises ARE often based on imaginary scenarios, so not really sure what you're getting at there.

Second, actual sovereign nationhood will probably never happen, but the REALITY is that some WN groups have taken steps to take over areas and towns of the United States to carve out places for themselves, even if those places were still officially part of the American nation.

For instance, many White Nationalists have made a concerted effort to move as a group to areas of the West and Northwest, especially Montana which is still relatively unpopulated. Or consider the case of Craig Cobb and his group--who really could be better described as White Supremacists than White Nationalists--who began buying up property in Leith, North Dakota and who was almost successful in taking over the town.

 

[Guestx]

So just black slave-descendants?

In so far as most black people in America are descended from slaves, yes.

 

[Rod1]

In so far as most black people in America are descended from slaves, yes.

So because slave descendants in America have created their own racial organizations with national ambitions then all "white people" in the world ought to look for a some sort of federal union of global proportions?

I dont think thats happening anytime soon.