Opinion What do you think of white nationalism?

[spin]

You mean the Anglos? Lol. You want to talk about raised to hate a group of people, my older family has an intense dislike and distrust of the English.

I think that's why I never understood white pride or white power, look at the drastic cultural differences and wars between European nations for a thousand years.

Irish neighborhoods in big cities are very different from Polish, Jewish, Italian so on so forth. When you concentrate solely on "whiteness" you're washing away thousands of years of cultural history, and muddying our differences.

It's a shame we have to draw these lines to stand on and not embrace and enjoy our differences.

greed goes beyond the anglos

 

[Cuzcatlan]

Mexicans doing the job white people are not willing to do anymore!

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I guess here's how I think about it.

There are some fairly vast cultural differences in the United States between, say, a rural community in the deep South and New York City. But these two groups are nevertheless united by an over-arching American culture.

That's how I see the relationship between all communities that are either European or of European descent.

How many cities/states have you been to? I never had the courage that many of my trainhoppers friends have to ride the rails and see the country. I truly regret not doing it but I've listened to many of their stories, and done quite a bit of traveling myself.

I've spoken before about my upbringing, moving around a lot as a kid, young adult. (I still move constantly) born and spent my formulative years in a Vietnamese neighborhood, ended up going to a mostly all black magnet school, spending most of my career in kitchens with illegal immigrants, then ended up in a smaller city oil town for high school.

Now you could say that that smaller town had more people "like me" dictated by skin color, but I truly never felt apart of it.

Plenty of rich people thanks to it being the home of ConocoPhillips, and plenty of white trash as well. The air of inclusivity kept everything nice on the outside, bland and soulless on the inside.

It was that small city that pushed me towards radical anti racist groups, told by teachers the book on Buddhism I was reading had satanic undertones, adults openly talking about interracial relationships with spite. I was told by family friends that I should never be in one. The golf course my grandparents bought didn't allow blacks membership until the mid to late 90s and it was openly spoken about. Everyone was extremely proud when there was the first token black member lol.

The town is still mostly the same, small pockets of Mexicans have moved in, but they're ostracized by the white community, there is little encouragement for Mexicans to assimilate and why would they? I stopped by a Mexican place when I was in town and openly heard the words "wetback waiter" at a table next to me.



It's reasons like this that I'm pro multiculturalism, the exchange of cultures and ideas that shape our nation. Look at the Chinese influence on San Francisco and DC, the many many cultural variances in one of the worlds greatest cities in New Orleans, Cubans and Jews in Miami, so on so forth for everyone.

Much of this hatred is ignorance, and I, in my own ignorance grew up hating America. We're all victims of circumstance, and where we grow up is the biggest circumstance of all. I grew up hating America until I travelled more and saw her, I saw how groups of immigrants all over the world came to the United States and built up some of the most beautiful cities in the history of the world through the strength of our diversity and by putting aside our differences to better our towns, cities, states and our country as a whole. That's the overarching American culture.

To quote the great Dropkick Murphys "


And the boys on the docks needed John for sure.
When they came to this country he opened the door.
He said "Man I'll tell ya, they don't like our kind.
Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind."

Say hey Johnny boy, the battle call.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Together we are what we can't be alone.
We came to this country you made it our home."

 

[AgonyandIrony]

greed goes beyond the anglos

......jews?

 

[Guestx]

How many cities/states have you been to? I never had the courage that many of my trainhoppers friends have to ride the rails and see the country. I truly regret not doing it but I've listened to many of their stories, and done quite a bit of traveling myself.

I've spoken before about my upbringing, moving around a lot as a kid, young adult. (I still move constantly) born and spent my formulative years in a Vietnamese neighborhood, ended up going to a mostly all black magnet school, spending most of my career in kitchens with illegal immigrants, then ended up in a smaller city oil town for high school.

Now you could say that that smaller town had more people "like me" dictated by skin color, but I truly never felt apart of it.

Plenty of rich people thanks to it being the home of ConocoPhillips, and plenty of white trash as well. The air of inclusivity kept everything nice on the outside, bland and soulless on the inside.

It was that small city that pushed me towards radical anti racist groups, told by teachers the book on Buddhism I was reading had satanic undertones, adults openly talking about interracial relationships with spite. I was told by family friends that I should never be in one. The golf course my grandparents bought didn't allow blacks membership until the mid to late 90s and it was openly spoken about. Everyone was extremely proud when there was the first token black member lol.

The town is still mostly the same, small pockets of Mexicans have moved in, but they're ostracized by the white community, there is little encouragement for Mexicans to assimilate and why would they? I stopped by a Mexican place when I was in town and openly heard the words "wetback waiter" at a table next to me.

It's reasons like this that I'm pro multiculturalism, the exchange of cultures and ideas that shape our nation. Look at the Chinese influence on San Francisco and DC, the many many cultural variances in one of the worlds greatest cities in New Orleans, Cubans and Jews in Miami, so on so forth for everyone.

Much of this hatred is ignorance, and I, in my own ignorance grew up hating America. We're all victims of circumstance, and where we grow up is the biggest circumstance of all. I grew up hating America until I travelled more and saw her, I saw how groups of immigrants all over the world came to the United States and built up some of the most beautiful cities in the history of the world through the strength of our diversity and by putting aside our differences to better our towns, cities, states and our country as a whole. That's the overarching American culture.

To quote the great Dropkick Murphys "


And the boys on the docks needed John for sure.
When they came to this country he opened the door.
He said "Man I'll tell ya, they don't like our kind.
Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind."

Say hey Johnny boy, the battle call.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Together we are what we can't be alone.
We came to this country you made it our home."

I was born in Memphis, TN and spent most of the first 23 years of my life either in Memphis or Jackson, MS. Since then I've either lived in or spent a considerable amount of time in Dallas, Atlanta, New Orleans, Minneapolis, San Diego and Salt Lake City (where I currently live). I've also visited a few cities like Chicago, LA and Washington DC.

Honestly, for me, what really shaped my thoughts on things is seeing the difference between cities with a majority white population and cities where whites are a minority. You mentioned New Orleans for instance. I love New Orleans and think it's a city that everyone should visit at least once in their life and I strongly considered moving there when I was still living in Mississippi. But in addition to all of its interesting cultural novelties and history, it's also one of the most dangerous cities in America. The same goes for Memphis and Jackson, MS too.

When I moved to Minneapolis I got to experience, for the first time, the relative comfort and safety that goes along with living in a city that has a white majority. I am experiencing that even moreso now that I'm in Utah. Instead of 140 murders a year, dirty streets, vandalism, and the mayor getting caught in a scandal when someone films him doing cocaine off a hooker's ass, I can go walk around a clean downtown at 3 AM without having to worry about getting robbed or killed.

And even if you get away from crime, there's just the simple fact that culturally members of other races just live differently. That's neither a good nor a bad thing, it's just different. And I find that for me personally these cultural differences are not endearing and that, for instance, a mostly black or Mexican neighborhood is not somewhere where I would really fit in very well. It's not an environment that I feel particularly comfortable in.

So yeah. . . It's not that I'm against anyone, it's just that I got sick of all the bullshit and I realized there was an alternative. I'm perfectly happy to be friends with anyone and judge every person on an individual basis. If you're cool to me, I'll be cool to you. I've had friends of just about every race on earth and I've had lovers of many races as well. But as far as the kind of environment where I'd like to live and where I can be comfortable, I've found it tends to be in communities that are mostly made up of white folks.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I was born in Memphis, TN and spent most of the first 23 years of my life either in Memphis or Jackson, MS. Since then I've either lived in or spent a considerable amount of time in Dallas, Atlanta, New Orleans, Minneapolis, San Diego and Salt Lake City (where I currently live). I've also visited a few cities like Chicago, LA and Washington DC.

Honestly, for me, what really shaped my thoughts on things is seeing the difference between cities with a majority white population and cities where whites are a minority. You mentioned New Orleans for instance. I love New Orleans and think it's a city that everyone should visit at least once in their life and I strongly considered moving there when I was still living in Mississippi. But in addition to all of its interesting cultural novelties and history, it's also one of the most dangerous cities in America. The same goes for Memphis and Jackson, MS too.

When I moved to Minneapolis I got to experience, for the first time, the relative comfort and safety that goes along with living in a city that has a white majority. I am experiencing that even moreso now that I'm in Utah. Instead of 140 murders a year, dirty streets, vandalism, and the mayor getting caught in a scandal when someone films him doing cocaine off a hooker's ass, I can go walk around a clean downtown at 3 AM without having to worry about getting robbed or killed.

And even if you get away from crime, there's just the simple fact that culturally members of other races just live differently. That's neither a good nor a bad thing, it's just different. And I find that for me personally these cultural differences on not endearing and that, for instance, a mostly black or Mexican neighborhood is not somewhere where I would really fit in very well. It's not an environment that I feel particularly comfortable in.

So yeah. . . It's not that I'm against anyone, it's just that I got sick of all the bullshit and I realized there was an alternative. I'm perfectly happy to be friends with anyone and judge every person on an individual basis. If you're cool to me, I'll be cool to you. I've had friends of just about every race on earth and I've had lovers of many races as well. But as far as the kind of environment where I'd like to live and where I can be comfortable, I've found it tends to be in communities that are mostly made up of white folks.

Yeah man, more power to you, glad you live somewhere comfortable and good on you for traveling so much I find a lot of the anti "other people" sentiment is from people who haven't traveled much outside their bubble.

I've not been to SLC or MN before, I've known a lot of Mormons from SLC and they've always been really good folk. Most the people I know from Minneapolis were punk rockers, there's a huge punk scene there (one time they left a crackhead that I ended up hip tossing here and just left him lol) they have some weird crime there, my friends from there were all posting about someone driving around targeting cyclists with cinder blocks.

I agree also that white communities tend to be much safer, although the white trash city I was talking about is very dangerous in certain all white neighborhoods, just trash tweakers, but crime is still there. I know a lot of suburban drug dealers, it's safer for drug crime in white neighborhoods as well lol.

I'm different, I like to be constantly surrounded by new things, God some of my favorite moments in LA was eating delicious Cuban food, and the best doner I've ever tasted in Little Tokyo and finishing the evening getting plastered and singing karaoke with homesick Korean businessman at this awesome little Korean BBQ place.

Hell I loved just walking around Tijuana with my hood up and my headphones in, stopping by a Chinese takeaway (I'm always amazed by where people end up around the world, pretty good Chinese down in TJ) before hitting up a bar down in Playas de Tijuana and getting drunk with people whose language I only have a small grasp on.

People, happy people, even if we don't speak the same language can share a conversation, most of us still share the same desires. It's why I love being a chef, at the end of the day we can all get together around a good meal lol.

That's what I love about multiculturalism man. But that's just me, and it's not just a white idea, many of the places I go are the same way. A lot of people like to live together based on similar ideas.

I guess my only disagreeance is that it's overtly "whiteness" that causes it. There are very rough Irish neighborhoods (not as bad as they used to be) some Slav neighborhoods in the US can be pretty rough as well, shit there are some banger ass Hassidic Jews out there lol. nothing wrong with being proud of being ___-American but white pride washes away the meaning of what these groups have accomplished.

 

[Bald1]

Mexicans doing the job white people are not willing to do anymore!

They really are taking our jerbs! Hilarious.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

You mean the Anglos? Lol. You want to talk about raised to hate a group of people, my older family has an intense dislike and distrust of the English.

I think that's why I never understood white pride or white power, look at the drastic cultural differences and wars between European nations for a thousand years.

Irish neighborhoods in big cities are very different from Polish, Jewish, Italian so on so forth. When you concentrate solely on "whiteness" you're washing away thousands of years of cultural history, and muddying our differences.

It's a shame we have to draw these lines to stand on and not embrace and enjoy our differences.

White nationalism is mostly an american thing, in europe you have nationalists that happen to be white but they're foremost polish nationalists, french nationalists and so on.
White americans despite coming from a multitude of backgrounds share many similar traits nowadays, yeah there are still italian or irish americans who consider themselves irish or italian but most have adopted into a distinct white american culture as opposed to let's say black americans. That's especially true of these with roots that date back to colonial times.

What I mean is that white nationalism as a global movement is bullshit, but there is some sense in white american nationalism.

 

[Blackened]

the phrase - "the ________ community " (insert black, LBGT, Latino, Asian, etc...) always makes me feel seperate from them.

A black spokesperson will be on the news saying "the black community is...." and all I hear is "they're different".

I'm not part of their community? Why not? I live in the same city, I go to the same restaurants, our kids go to the same schools.... Why are they a community? Am I in the "white community"?

Shouldn't we all be in the same fuckin community?

White people aren't allowed to have community, don't ya know?

 

[RIPWarrior]

I had bad experiences with white racism in a small white town. I now hate my country, it's people and everything about it. I want to bring in people from around the world to my country so I can force white racists to live with others. Sure the countries that immigrants come from are racist as fuck but these people become so not racist when they get here. Unlike white people.

White racism has made me realize we have to diversify white societies. Any time I see an all white town or city I want to immediately diversify it.

About the USA, I only started liking it when I found out that it was all the immigrants that built the cities not the majority of white people living in the country.

 

[TemujinKhan]

What I find odd is that a lot of white nationalists on Sherdog don't even live in white countries.

 

[TemujinKhan]

Whites have all of Europe both East and West, and have large white populations in central asia. Make up 40% of South American population and make up most of the ruling class.

Make up 80% of the population and ruling class of North America, the richest continent in terms of natural resources by far. They have their own nation in the middle east: Jewish people are white. And one can argue that middle easterners are white/caucasians as well.

Theres billions of whites/caucasians, they inhabit the majority of 4 continents: North America, South America, Europe and Australia. Thats 4 out of 7 continents that whites are a majority and members of the ruling class.

Where exactly is this struggle for their own lands and dwindling populations?

 

[oldshadow]

I had bad experiences with white racism in a small white town. I now hate my country, it's people and everything about it. I want to bring in people from around the world to my country so I can force white racists to live with others. Sure the countries that immigrants come from are racist as fuck but these people become so not racist when they get here. Unlike white people.

White racism has made me realize we have to diversify white societies. Any time I see an all white town or city I want to immediately diversify it.

About the USA, I only started liking it when I found out that it was all the immigrants that built the cities not the majority of white people living in the country.

I would suggest you move someplace you will like so you will be happy.

All kinds of people built this country including the larger percent being considered white. So you need to reread you history.

You also need to live and lean a lot more about people in general if this is how you view them. That all white people are racist and need minorities to "save" them or maybe as you think punish them for being "white".

 

[Seano]

People are getting tired of being forced to tolerate intolerant people. Shit like this happens.

I'm not really big on multiculturalism. I guess that's not PC but I sort of think that if you migrate to another country, be it the US or Afghanistan, then you should assimilate or just stay in whatever region fits your lifestyle.

 

[oldshadow]

I believe in freedom of association, as long as it is within the constitution and the law.

 

[7437]

Whites have all of Europe both East and West, and have large white populations in central asia. Make up 40% of South American population and make up most of the ruling class.

Make up 80% of the population and ruling class of North America, the richest continent in terms of natural resources by far. They have their own nation in the middle east: Jewish people are white. And one can argue that middle easterners are white/caucasians as well.

Theres billions of whites/caucasians, they inhabit the majority of 4 continents: North America, South America, Europe and Australia. Thats 4 out of 7 continents that whites are a majority and members of the ruling class.

Where exactly is this struggle for their own lands and dwindling populations?

Most of those people are not consider white by white nationalists.

 

[machidafan99]

Danish people nail this perfectly. It's okay to be proud but don't get cocky.

Law of Jante
The ten rules state:

1. You're not to think you are anything special.
2. You're not to think you are as good as we are.
3. You're not to think you are smarter than we are.
4. You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are.
5. You're not to think you know more than we do.
6. You're not to think you are more important than we are.
7. You're not to think you are good at anything.
8. You're not to laugh at us.
9. You're not to think anyone cares about you.
10. You're not to think you can teach us anything.

 

[AviatorShades]

It's honestly needed. I'm mostly not white but the suicide white countries are committing is hard to watch. They need to have some kind of national identity, if not for their own safety then for global geopolitical stability.

People celebrated Gandhi as an Indian nationalist. People automatically associate white nationalism with Charles Manson carving swastikas into his forehead or something. That's not what I'm talking about. I mean intelligent moderate white nationalism, just people putting their foot down and saying they'd like to exist and have a voice and aren't ready to be replaced yet. Brexit honestly had that tone to it. There were other issues at stake but its one of the only times in modern history we've seen a national vote actually benefit native white offspring instead of crush their outlook.

 

[AviatorShades]

Whites have all of Europe both East and West, and have large white populations in central asia. Make up 40% of South American population and make up most of the ruling class.

Make up 80% of the population and ruling class of North America, the richest continent in terms of natural resources by far. They have their own nation in the middle east: Jewish people are white. And one can argue that middle easterners are white/caucasians as well.

Theres billions of whites/caucasians, they inhabit the majority of 4 continents: North America, South America, Europe and Australia. Thats 4 out of 7 continents that whites are a majority and members of the ruling class.

Where exactly is this struggle for their own lands and dwindling populations?

There are actually not billions. And there is no way north america is "80% caucasian" unless you aren't properly subtracting the "Hispanic of any race" subcategory. Even then it doesn't compute. Blacks alone are about 14% of the US.That leaves 6% for everyone else? Ermmm... South America being "majority white" is a bizarre statement as well. The middle east WAS caucasian but obviously massive northward migration with the spread of Islam has changed that and turned them into minorities.

Even under the loosest definitions, under 10% of the world is white.

If you consider people who are trying to preserve blonde/red hair and fair skin, etc., that number shrinks even more dramatically.

The myth that the world is mostly white is some strange lingering belief I see all the time. I'm not even sure where it comes from because that's never in history been the case. I know it sticks around because it fits the oppression narrative.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Whites have all of Europe both East and West, and have large white populations in central asia. Make up 40% of South American population and make up most of the ruling class.

Make up 80% of the population and ruling class of North America, the richest continent in terms of natural resources by far. They have their own nation in the middle east: Jewish people are white. And one can argue that middle easterners are white/caucasians as well.

Theres billions of whites/caucasians, they inhabit the majority of 4 continents: North America, South America, Europe and Australia. Thats 4 out of 7 continents that whites are a majority and members of the ruling class.

Where exactly is this struggle for their own lands and dwindling populations?

You made these stats up, buddy.There are not "billions" of whites.