Opinion What do you think of white nationalism?

[bref]

It's about 95% what the hard-line Republicans agree with and 60% of moderate Republicans.

Just listen to David Duke's senate announcement:



-Against Affirmative Action

-Thinks whites need to be a special interest group just like blacks, Latinos and Jews are.

-Vehemently anti-immigration

-Thinks whites are undergoing genocide

-Overjoyed at the Donald Trump phenomenon

-Believes in "America First"


This is mainstream conservative stuff.

This dude is lizard-people for sure. Don't even need to watch the video, can tell by the screencap.

You're not fooling anyone Dave Duke.

 

[RIPWarrior]

My railroad building Irish ancestors say fuck that.

Still bitter I see.

 

[Mike]

You're really on a roll lately. I've always thought anyone that sees racial mixing as some kind of threat is really caught up in tribalism.


Skin color doesn't matter. Even a little. Environment and upbringing are more important than anything else when it comes to development.


I don't get people that are afraid that if we continue to mix races one day "pure" white or black etc. people may not exist. Ok so..... who fucking cares?


One less thing for people to fight over if anything. Realistically a small portion of each group will always refuse to date outside their race anyway.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

What are you going on about? I make fun of progressives like that all time.

I know. That's why i said you were being ironic

 

[TemujinKhan]

There are actually not billions. And there is no way north america is "80% caucasian" unless you aren't properly subtracting the "Hispanic of any race" subcategory. Even then it doesn't compute. Blacks alone are about 14% of the US.That leaves 6% for everyone else? Ermmm... South America being "majority white" is a bizarre statement as well. The middle east WAS caucasian but obviously massive northward migration with the spread of Islam has changed that and turned them into minorities.

Even under the loosest definitions, under 10% of the world is white.

If you consider people who are trying to preserve blonde/red hair and fair skin, etc., that number shrinks even more dramatically.

The myth that the world is mostly white is some strange lingering belief I see all the time. I'm not even sure where it comes from because that's never in history been the case. I know it sticks around because it fits the oppression narrative.

America is around 70% white, Canada with the smaller population is about 75%-80% white. half of the hispanic population is white thats half of 16% which is 8%. 70 + 8 = around 80%. Also, the majority of goverment, media and ruling class are white.

South America population is 40% white meaning they are the single biggest race in South America, every other racial category is lower which makes whites technically the majority, you don't have to be over 50% of a population to be a majority. Roughly 30% of the south american pop is either mestizo or mulatto, meaning they are at least half white. So 40% of South American population is pure white and at least 70% are either full white or half.

Middle Easterners are nearly 100% caucasians, religion has no correlation with race. White is a race not a religion, if John Smith from Nebraska became a muslim tommorow doesn't mean he's not white anymore. A good number of middle easterners are physically indistinguishable from whites, including different hair and eye colors. If a Filipino, a Japanese and a Thai person can all be considered under the racial caetgory of "Asian" then Middle Easterners can be classified as white.

Whites inhabited the richest and most diverse lands on the planet: North and South America, and Australia, these are new continents, which were mostly unminned, untapped and overlowing with natural resources. The population density of white countries are lower thats why they have lower populations not due to any lack of land or resources, its nobodies fault but theirs that they don't want to make more babies.

 

[TemujinKhan]

You made these stats up, buddy.There are not "billions" of whites.

Never said there were billions, I said theres billions of whites/caucasians and there are. Under the racial category of "white" there is roughly one billion whites according to my estimation, lowest I would say is 900 million. Theres nothing low about that number its very solid for sustainable growth, and too many people means more environmental impact. Also whites make up a majority of the ruling class in 4 continents: North America, South America, Australia and Europe. The population may be a bit low, but not land, you guys got the most high quality land out there.

 

[Guestx]

You're really on a roll lately.

You know, sometimes you just get on a kick!

I've always thought anyone that sees racial mixing as some kind of threat is really caught up in tribalism.

There's nothing wrong with belonging to something. We are all bonded by humanity. But there are so many other things that bond us together, and rightfully so. For instance, I'm proud to be American . . . and of Southern heritage . . . and a Utahn . . . and a Ute (i.e. affiliated with the University of Utah).

We all need a family.

Skin color doesn't matter. Even a little. Environment and upbringing are more important than anything else when it comes to development.

I mostly agree.

I don't get people that are afraid that if we continue to mix races one day "pure" white or black etc. people may not exist.

Anyone who cares about diversity will care.

 

[Pugilistic]

I think it’s a silly idea. Race doesn’t exist and nations are made up ideas. If a dude thinks he’s one of “my kind” simply because he happens to have the same skin pigmentation or similar facial features or the same passport, I would think he’s a tool. You don’t know me like that.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Never said there were billions, I said theres billions of whites/caucasians and there are. Under the racial category of "white" there is roughly one billion whites according to my estimation, lowest I would say is 900 million. Theres nothing low about that number its very solid for sustainable growth, and too many people means more environmental impact. Also whites make up a majority of the ruling class in 4 continents: North America, South America, Australia and Europe. The population may be a bit low, but not land, you guys got the most high quality land out there.

They aren't a "ruling class" in most places..They are a "this is how we live based on how how we cut our grass, learn and teach our kids to do things, and behave on our streets." There's a difference buddy. Playing field is even throughout America and Europe. We don't rule over Asians here in America, they accomplish what they accomplish and live how they live, like everybody else. How groups dispositions play out making their "communities" is on them 100%.. But some people can't face that reality. Some people think the way whites live is boring and wouldn't want to be in that "class," including a lot of young white women, it seems. *shrugs*

 

[Amerikuracana]

I think it’s a silly idea. Race doesn’t exist and nations are made up ideas. If a dude thinks he’s one of “my kind” simply because he happens to have the same skin pigmentation or similar facial features or the same passport, I would think he’s a tool. You don’t know me like that.

Obviously race exists *rolleyes* but you are free to ignore that reality and proceed accordingly. More power to you.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

This dude is lizard-people for sure. Don't even need to watch the video, can tell by the screencap.

You're not fooling anyone Dave Duke.

David Duke might not be fooling anyone, but his message sure is.

As I said, his proposals are pretty much exactly the same as the dozens of regular WR conservatives. Just take out the anti-semitism and you have an Atheist, Rex Kwon, Amerikurcana, etc.

 

[Rod1]

You know, sometimes you just get on a kick!

There's nothing wrong with belonging to something. We are all bonded by humanity. But there are so many other things that bond us together, and rightfully so. For instance, I'm proud to be American . . . and of Southern heritage . . . and a Utahn . . . and a Ute (i.e. affiliated with the University of Utah).

We all need a family.

I mostly agree.

Anyone who cares about diversity will care.

1.- There is nothing wrong with liking your own race, but thats not the crux of the issue, you want only your own race to be around those parts, as someone pointed out, liking vanilla icecream isnt bad, but wanting a store to only sell vanilla is.

2.- I dont think you know how genes work, diversity isnt killed by mixing, it actually increases the possible genetic combinations that can occur which leads to more different people than we actually have.

 

[Rod1]

Obviously race exists *rolleyes* but you are free to ignore that reality and proceed accordingly. More power to you.

Race exists, of course but its a non-scientific classification based on a lot of cultural and geographical factors and not on reality.

If we go by the classification of race given by white nationalists the whole world is mixed, since "pure" races are virtually gone.

There are no pure amerindians anymore, the huge amount of people between asia and europe are mixed or at least have phenotypes of different races.

 

[Denter]

I'm actually very tolerant and, at times, even interested in other cultures. I do believe we're all human, after all.

What I'm really concerned about is the extermination of our race. We are being bred out of existence. I have a hard time with that.

EDIT: Yeah, I've fucked a lot of non-white people as well. They were good girls.

A race is never a static thing- it is historical, the result of geographic isolation and social pressures within that isolation, as well as the historical events within the race such as conquest or migration.

Think of this instead as an era when new races are being formed.

 

[DiegoLunes]

Skin color doesn't matter. Even a little. Environment and upbringing are more important than anything else when it comes to development.

Do you also believe being gay has to do with your environment? What do some races have much higher average IQ than other races? Environment?

 

[Mike]

Do you also believe being gay has to do with your environment? What do some races have much higher average IQ than other races? Environment?

They're still researching but it seems to be a mix of environment and upbringing. As far as sexuality goes there's certainly a genetic component involved, but traumatic experiences like sexual abuse can alter sexuality.



As far as intelligence goes, people ignore the correlation between intelligence and poverty. Minorities are more likely to live in poverty which limits access to education and other resources.


There's minor differences between races but most of these things come down to socioeconomic differences. The greater a person's quality of life and access to resources the better people tend to do.

 

[Guestx]

A race is never a static thing- it is historical, the result of geographic isolation and social pressures within that isolation, as well as the historical events within the race such as conquest or migration.

Think of this instead as an era when new races are being formed.

What I see happening instead is the slow formation of a single race. a One World Race, if you will.

I don't know how long it will take, but I believe we'll eventually come to the point where everyone looks the same. That's sad to me.

 

[Denter]

What I see happening instead is the slow formation of a single race. a One World Race, if you will.

I don't know how long it will take, but I believe we'll eventually come to the point where everyone looks the same. That's sad to me.

Its unlikely, because people still self-segregate based on many other factors- education, wealth, religion, politics, preferred climate, etc.

If any of that is at all genetic you will likely see divergences.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

America is around 70% white, Canada with the smaller population is about 75%-80% white. half of the hispanic population is white thats half of 16% which is 8%. 70 + 8 = around 80%. Also, the majority of goverment, media and ruling class are white.

South America population is 40% white meaning they are the single biggest race in South America, every other racial category is lower which makes whites technically the majority, you don't have to be over 50% of a population to be a majority. Roughly 30% of the south american pop is either mestizo or mulatto, meaning they are at least half white. So 40% of South American population is pure white and at least 70% are either full white or half.

Middle Easterners are nearly 100% caucasians, religion has no correlation with race. White is a race not a religion, if John Smith from Nebraska became a muslim tommorow doesn't mean he's not white anymore. A good number of middle easterners are physically indistinguishable from whites, including different hair and eye colors. If a Filipino, a Japanese and a Thai person can all be considered under the racial caetgory of "Asian" then Middle Easterners can be classified as white.

Whites inhabited the richest and most diverse lands on the planet: North and South America, and Australia, these are new continents, which were mostly unminned, untapped and overlowing with natural resources. The population density of white countries are lower thats why they have lower populations not due to any lack of land or resources, its nobodies fault but theirs that they don't want to make more babies.

I agree mostly with your post except for the middle east. Culture plays a role in defining a race and whites are basically people with european heritage, both genetically and culturally. I know middle easterners and even indians can be considered caucasian but they're hardly white. There are exceptions though. It's not because of Islam, Albanians are white, but Saudis not really. You can make exceptions for some iranians, pashtuns and so on who at least speak an Indo-European language. But whatever.

Some very rough math:
200 million whites in the US
50 million whites in Brazil(debatable, the census give double these numbers but the large amount of christian arabs and light skinned mixed race are considered white there)
500 million whites in western europe(the EU has 510 million people, no clear race breakdowns, of course there are many non-whites there but western europe also includes other more white countries like switzerland and norway not in the EU)
28 million whites in Canada
25 million whites in Australia and NZ and other small islands
120 million whites in Russia
50 million whites in Belarus and Ukraine
100 million whites everywhere else/probably an underestimation(Argentina, Uruguay, Mexico, other latin american countries, South Africa, expats in China, Saudi Arabia or whatever)

Over 1 billion white people around the world.

There are many more people that are partly/mostly white in Brazil, Mexico, Cuba and the rest of latin america.

For comparison there are 1.3 billion Han Chinese.
1.6B muslims(of course they comprise many ethnicities including white)
Probably around 1B blacks(800 million people in Subsaharan Africa, 35 million African-Americans, 100 million brazilians with some african ancestry although only 14 million identify as pure blacks and genetics confirm most african brazilians are mostly european especially in the paternal lineage)

 

[Guestx]

I agree mostly with your post except for the middle east. Culture plays a role in defining a race and whites are basically people with european heritage, both genetically and culturally. I know middle easterners and even indians can be considered caucasian but they're hardly white.

Pretty much. Being "white," at least in the sense that most people mean it, is not really just about skin color. There's also a strong heritage and cultural component to it.