Opinion What do you think of white nationalism?

[Guestx]

To only eat the kind of ice cream you like is a possibility the ability to only be around people just like you and only just like you at all times is not .

I actually am not against cultural exchanges and I'm not sure I'd want to live in a society where EVERYONE is like me. I do think it might be nice to live in one where MOST people are like me though.

I have no problem with a little diversity to add some cultural flavor.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

I actually am not against cultural exchanges and I'm not sure I'd want to live in a society where EVERYONE is like me. I do think it might be nice to live in one where MOST people are like me though.

I have no problem with a little diversity to add some cultural flavor.

If I was a white nationalist I would brand you as a traitor. You can't establish a movement from the ground up and be this wishy-washy.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I actually am not against cultural exchanges and I'm not sure I'd want to live in a society where EVERYONE is like me. I do think it might be nice to live in one where MOST people are like me though.

See I grew up a white punk in a black neighborhood and I am really used to being the only fucker like me around. I dont need people I am around to be like me or really care that much as long as they arent violent criminals and leave me alone.



On a side note being a punk in a black neighborhood I wasnt called a cracker or treated shitty in the slightest. I was treated like a curiosity and was asked tons of questions about my shit and made friends pretty easy . White folks out in the burbs on the other hand treated me with nothing but contempt so thats a big part of where I am coming from ya know

 

[Rod1]

I think that, even though it's not an absolute rule, cultures often tend to divide along color lines. Black people, Latino people, Arab people, Indian people, Asian people etc all tend to have a lot of cultural similarities with each other that are not shared by white cultures that are either European or of European descent.

See none of the above except black and white are actually races.

 

[Ruprecht]

If I was a white nationalist I would brand you as a traitor. You can't establish a movement from the ground up and be this wishy-washy.

White Nationalists love branding each others as traitors. Or Jews, which I'm pretty sure is considered worse.

 

[Guestx]

If I was a white nationalist I would brand you as a traitor. You can't establish a movement from the ground up and be this wishy-washy.

I'm sure most would not want to go for that deal. But let's say, presumably, such a nation were to be founded. I wouldn't see a problem with a small (~10% or less) minority population.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Sure, but I think often times those negative feelings aren't literally about a person being a certain race, but rather because of traits and qualities that can be statistically linked to large portions of people of that race. For instance, it's a well-known fact that cities with this highest percentages of black residents also tend to have the highest crime rates. So one might begin to harbor some negative feelings, in a general sense, toward the black community. But that's not really about skin color.

Referring to skin color, I think, is often shorthand for referring to a collection of behaviors.

Great point.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

I'm sure most would not want to go for that deal. But let's say, presumably, such a nation were to be founded. I wouldn't see a problem with a small (~10% or less) minority population.

lol @ "most would not want to go for it." We're going back and forth between reality and complete fantasy/mental masturbation.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I don't mind the multicultural shit. I don't consider myself a white nationalists, as I like to fuck brown latino women, and eat indian food.

The problem is that we cannot assimilate people with beliefs incompatible with secular law or people that want global domination.

Call me a racist all you wish, but the fact of the matter is I'm merely defending the survival of western civilization. I'll fight it as long as I can, that is until Islam forces all of us to convert... which I'm still not sure if I'd do that. I'd like to think I'd remain a secularist if even facing execution, but I don't know if I would.

Don't listen to Thusiaz or whatever about white nationalism not existing lol. His screen name is extremely prevalent in neo-Nazi terminology. Just google his screen name and stormfront.

White Pride Worldwide is a prevalent theme. With white power groups prevalent across Europe, they tend to almost always be outnumbered. I went into great detail in another thread about the various neo Nazi and white power groups here in the States. Can't remember what it's called but it was a really good read. Forgot I knew all that stuff tbh.

I'm on the flip side. I absolutely love learning other cultures. Their languages, customs, cuisine. I'm fascinated by it. Hanging out with only people like me would bore me infinitely.

 

[Guestx]

lol @ "most would not want to go for it." We're going back and forth between reality and complete fantasy/mental masturbation.

Ha, well so bad about discussing something that's theoretical?

I mean, you're probably not going to win a million dollars tomorrow but I'm sure you could have a conversation about what you would do if you did.

 

[kuromusha]

The beginning of the thread was surprisingly civil. Haven't read through the rest of it though.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

A little harsh, but ethnonationalism is a barbaric ideology that is hostile to American principles. And, yeah, I've really noticed that racists are really found of the argument that everyone believes what they do; it's just that some people don't admit it.



This is true, except for the part about learning the culture. What does that even mean? One of the right's criticisms of America in the beginning was that civic nationalism (and a lack of a state religion) would lead to a decline in culture. I think it could be true that America's founding ideology (liberalism) deprioritizes culture in exchange for an increase in material well-being, but it doesn't seem to me that we're doing too badly. Lots of great cultural products have come out of the country (and a lot of shit, of course).

By culture I don`t mean things like food or music. But a set of ideas, like individualism and respecting each other freedoms. It is considered a given in the west but in many cultures it's not accepted. For example, it's cultural in Eritrea to cut girls clitoris, that has no place in the US, it should be replaced with a culture of respecting females.

 

[spin]

The problem with most white nationalism, is that they're fucking liars.

They dont want a land where they can live amongst their own kind.

they want the best land. As in they want all the riches on opportunities to themselves. And everyone else says fuck you, that's what we want.

So that's how the country is, pushing and shoving and hammering out an odd disdainful coexistence over everyone trying to get a share of the best stuff.

So is there an inherent evil in white nationalism? No. But neither is there an innocent philosophy.

 

[Undying Poster]

I actually am not against cultural exchanges and I'm not sure I'd want to live in a society where EVERYONE is like me. I do think it might be nice to live in one where MOST people are like me though.

I have no problem with a little diversity to add some cultural flavor.

FWIW immigrants are not added for flavor but for specific economic reasons. Legal and illegal.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

The problem with most white nationalism, is that they're fucking liars.

They dont want a land where they can live amongst their own kind.

they want the best land. As in they want all the riches on opportunities to themselves. And everyone else says fuck you, that's what we want.

So that's how the country is, pushing and shoving and hammering out an odd disdainful coexistence over everyone trying to get a share of the best stuff.

So is there an inherent evil in white nationalism? No. But neither is there an innocent philosophy.

You mean the Anglos? Lol. You want to talk about raised to hate a group of people, my older family has an intense dislike and distrust of the English.

I think that's why I never understood white pride or white power, look at the drastic cultural differences and wars between European nations for a thousand years.

Irish neighborhoods in big cities are very different from Polish, Jewish, Italian so on so forth. When you concentrate solely on "whiteness" you're washing away thousands of years of cultural history, and muddying our differences.

It's a shame we have to draw these lines to stand on and not embrace and enjoy our differences.

 

[Guestx]

You mean the Anglos? Lol. You want to talk about raised to hate a group of people, my older family has an intense dislike and distrust of the English.

I think that's why I never understood white pride or white power, look at the drastic cultural differences and wars between European nations for a thousand years.

Irish neighborhoods in big cities are very different from Polish, Jewish, Italian so on so forth. When you concentrate solely on "whiteness" you're washing away thousands of years of cultural history, and muddying our differences.

It's a shame we have to draw these lines to stand on and not embrace and enjoy our differences.

To be fair, the various European cultures are much more similar to each other than than they are to, say, Japanese culture or Arabian culture.

 

[Broken arrow]

the phrase - "the ________ community " (insert black, LBGT, Latino, Asian, etc...) always makes me feel seperate from them.

A black spokesperson will be on the news saying "the black community is...." and all I hear is "they're different".

I'm not part of their community? Why not? I live in the same city, I go to the same restaurants, our kids go to the same schools.... Why are they a community? Am I in the "white community"?

Shouldn't we all be in the same fuckin community?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

To be fair, the various European cultures are much more similar to each other than than they are to, say, Japanese culture or Arabian culture.

Depending on how you look at it. Irish oppression from the Anglos lasted hundreds of years, the War of the Roses, the differences between German and French culture and history.

You're seeing this from a globalist perspective, certainly the Anglos have more in common with Germanic people's than they do the Japanese but there is a vastly different set of cultural customs, and histories between the two "white" cultures.

Look at Hispanics, sure a Mexican might share similar skin pigmentation to someone from Chile or Brazil but they're only similar to the ignorant.

Focusing on skin color is absurd, and detrimental to understanding the history of "whites".

 

[Guestx]

the phrase - "the ________ community " (insert black, LBGT, Latino, Asian, etc...) always makes me feel seperate from them.

A black spokesperson will be on the news saying "the black community is...." and all I hear is "they're different".

I'm not part of their community? Why not? I live in the same city, I go to the same restaurants, our kids go to the same schools.... Why are they a community? Am I in the "white community"?

Shouldn't we all be in the same fuckin community?

I think their are levels of community. For instance, all the world/all of humanity is a sort of community. All of a nation, all of a state, all of a city, etc. Then you have things like the MMA community, the music community, etc.

It's like one of those Russian dolls, that go like four levels deep. That's how I see it.

 

[Guestx]

Depending on how you look at it. Irish oppression from the Anglos lasted hundreds of years, the War of the Roses, the differences between German and French culture and history.

You're seeing this from a globalist perspective, certainly the Anglos have more in common with Germanic people's than they do the Japanese but there is a vastly different set of cultural customs, and histories between the two "white" cultures.

Look at Hispanics, sure a Mexican might share similar skin pigmentation to someone from Chile or Brazil but they're only similar to the ignorant.

Focusing on skin color is absurd, and detrimental to understanding the history of "whites".

I guess here's how I think about it.

There are some fairly vast cultural differences in the United States between, say, a rural community in the deep South and New York City. But these two groups are nevertheless united by an over-arching American culture.

That's how I see the relationship between all communities that are either European or of European descent.