Was anyone in UFC history statistically as dominant as Khabib?

[hbombbisping]

All I’ll say is that nobody has done to his opponents what Khabib did to them. There’s no reason to believe he couldn’t do it to any 155er to ever fight either.

Dude gave guys PTSD in there. Jones probably has too.

And now he's giving DC PTSD lol and Sure Dawg as well as we can see

 

[El Fernas]

Khabib dominated his opponents sure, but he only had 3 title defenses...Jones, DJ, Silva, were pretty dominant, Jones while had a few close fights he is technically undefeated, imagine they all retired after a few title fights while still at their peak...

 

[hbombbisping]

Khabib dominated his opponents sure, but he only had 3 title defenses...Jones, DJ, Silva, were pretty dominant, Jones while had a few close fights he is technically undefeated, imagine they all retired after a few title fights while still at their peak...

The point here is that if they retired after a few title fights at their peak like Khabib as you said, they still wouldn't be as statistically dominant as him round per round.

 

[Dagestanaev]

- only lost two rounds officially on the scorecards in his 13 ufc fight run, both were kind of BS, he nearly subbed Gaethje in the round he "lost" and battered Conor on the feet in the third round he lost.
- the most 10-8 rounds in UFC history
- ran over prime RDA, Dustin, Justin, Conor and Edson


In Jon's first 13 he got dq'ed to Matt and Jones lost several rounds to Gus, Evans, and even Bonnar and Gusmao

ND the bathtub e?

 

[legedema]

no one did what Khabib did to his opponents.
no scratches , no blood and full domination all the time.
he is not the GOAT but one of the greatest.
Khabib was something special that you are not able to see often but the haters will be here all the time

 

[DumpsterBaby]

Huh???? TONS of guys dominated their divisions like Khabib did. They then lost at some point, while continually fighting top competition. Khabib on the other hand has like 5 good wins his entire career. The sport is littered with guys that have three title defenses and a handful of top 5 wins.

I meant what was done to each opponent specifically. Nobody has mauled Barboza, Johnson, Conor or RDA like that. Nobody has tapped Gaehtje or Dustin like that either. Who else was he supposed to fight? He took on everyone and fucked all of them up worse than they’ve ever been fucked up.

Give me a lightweight you don’t think would turn into a Russian torture porn.

 

[fractal]

Khabib won this?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

The point here is that if they retired after a few title fights at their peak like Khabib as you said, they still wouldn't be as statistically dominant as him round per round.

I guess not. But most of them clashed with at least one guy who are a tier above RDA who is probably the best guy Khabib beat. It only takes one guy to tank stats of a small sample size.

Though, I am ultimately taking your word for it, I have my doubts about the per round thing. Jon Jones, GSP, Demetrius Johnson, and probably even Aldo/BJ Penn have had 3-4 fight streaks that were highly dominant. What stats put Khabib ahead? A ratio of strikes or control or something?

Anderson Silva were the same size as Khabib's opponents he'd destroy most of them (I'm kind of smiling at the thought of Gaethje fighting a guy like Silva, shit would be so funny). He's definitely had 4 separate fights against elite opponents where he was barely touched and he knocked them out - maybe not in a row, but at that point its just arbitrary.

 

[hbombbisping]

I guess not. But most of them clashed with at least one guy who are a tier above RDA who is probably the best guy Khabib beat. It only takes one guy to tank stats of a small sample size.

Though, I am taking your word for it, I have my doubts. Jon Jones, GSP, Demetrius Johnson, and probably even BJ Penn have had 3-4 fight streaks that were highly dominant. What stats put Khabib ahead? A ratio of strikes or control or something?

His 13 fight UFC winstreak, in which he only lost two rounds officially, nobody else has ever done that.

He also has the most 10-8 rounds in UFC history and some other dominance records.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I meant what was done to each opponent specifically. Nobody has mauled Barboza, Johnson, Conor or RDA like that. Nobody has tapped Gaehtje or Dustin like that either. Who else was he supposed to fight? He took on everyone and fucked all of them up worse than they’ve ever been fucked up.

Give me a lightweight you don’t think would turn into a Russian torture porn.

I mean Dustin and Gaethje aren't very good on the ground and were choked out only a year or 2 after. Not in the same fashion as Khabib, but that is because Do-Bronx fights differently.

I dont know why you're saying who else was he supposed to fight. At least two guys were proven to be better than those guys in Do-Bronx and Makhachev. Khabib would not turn prime Islam into a Russian torture porn - no Khabib beating pre prime Islam up in training doesnt count.

McGregor was beaten worse by Nate Diaz...a lot worse, McGregor actually took a round off Khabib.

Mauled Barboza? Maybe not, but have many people easily beaten Barboza? Probably. He was more of a borderline top ten guy than a real contender. And Barboza is probably Khabib's 5th best win which pales in comparison to most of the top ten.

I dont get why you cant just say he beat a string of legitimate contenders who were or could have been lower tier champions. Trying to make it seem like based on that he'd destroy anyone that ever lived is silly. BJ Penn literally finished every LW he ever fought until he lost to Frankie Edgar (who must people thought he beat) - has anyone else done something like that (and also finished the #1 WW of all time at that point lol) ?? I'd reckon no, but because he fought in another era people think he only beat Kenny Florian and some lazy meme about losing to Edgar at the end of his career.

 

[hbombbisping]

I mean Dustin and Gaethje aren't very good on the ground and were choked out only a year or 2 after. Not in the same fashion as Khabib, but that is because Do-Bronx fights differently.

I dont know why you're saying who else was he supposed to fight. At least two guys were proven to be better than those guys in Do-Bronx and Makhachev. Khabib would not turn prime Islam into a Russian torture porn - no Khabib beating pre prime Islam up in training doesnt count.

McGregor was beaten worse by Nate Diaz...a lot worse, McGregor actually took a round off Khabib.

Mauled Barboza? Maybe not, but have many people easily beaten Barboza? Probably. He was more of a borderline top ten guy than a real contender. And Barboza is probably Khabib's 5th best win.

I dont get why you cant just say he beat a string of legitimate contenders who were or could have been lower tier champions. Trying to make it seem like based on that he'd destroy anyone that ever lived is silly. BJ Penn literally finished every LW he ever fought until he lost to Frankie Edgar (who must people thought he beat) - has anyone else done something like that (and also finished the #1 WW of all time at that point lol) ?? I'd reckon no, but because he fought in another era people think he only beat Kenny Florian and some lazy meme about losing to Edgar at the end of his career.

Khabib still beats the shit out of Islam in sparring-- moreso even because of his size.

What little sparring they do. Islam risks injury going up against Khabib at his current size.

 

[DumpsterBaby]

I mean Dustin and Gaethje aren't very good on the ground and were choked out only a year or 2 after. Not in the same fashion as Khabib, but that is because Do-Bronx fights differently.

I dont know why you're saying who else was he supposed to fight. At least two guys were proven to be better than those guys in Do-Bronx and Makhachev. Khabib would not turn prime Islam into a Russian torture porn - no Khabib beating pre prime Islam up in training doesnt count.

McGregor was beaten worse by Nate Diaz...a lot worse, McGregor actually took a round off Khabib.

Mauled Barboza? Maybe not, but have many people easily beaten Barboza? Probably. He was more of a borderline top ten guy than a real contender. And Barboza is probably Khabib's 5th best win which pales in comparison to most of the top ten.

I dont get why you cant just say he beat a string of legitimate contenders who were or could have been lower tier champions. Trying to make it seem like based on that he'd destroy anyone that ever lived is silly. BJ Penn literally finished every LW he ever fought until he lost to Frankie Edgar (who must people thought he beat) - has anyone else done something like that (and also finished the #1 WW of all time at that point lol) ?? I'd reckon no, but because he fought in another era people think he only beat Kenny Florian and some lazy meme about losing to Edgar at the end of his career.

Who did BJ fight as a champion? Diego? Kenny Florian? I know we’re comparing eras and I knew a BJ guy would comment. Is Edson better than Sanchez and Florian? By a mile, and he’s your “middle of the road” example. What do you think would happen to Frankie if he fought Khabib? Dude lost years of his life against Gray Maynard, ffs. Conor didn’t get beat worse than Diaz either, just finished earlier. If you asked him who he’d want to fight again, he’d say Diaz.

Speaking of Diaz, Nick beat the everloving fuck out of your boy in a combination that lasted like 2 rounds.

I don’t know why there are BJ nuthuggers anymore. A bloody finish of Joe Stevenson and a couple title defenses makes him the GOAT somehow. Not to mention the embarrassment he’s turned into.

 

[Spath]

Being the best LW on earth during his "brief" time is undeniable.
It doesnt put him on the GOAT list though.

Now that I read your original post again, that’s what you were talking about. Not on my GOAT list either, but a hell of a fighter and the best of his time

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Imagine thinking you’re making a point that Jon had a tough fight in his 6th title defence which is 2x as many as Khabib ever had

Not really a human cheat code, just a cheat code

 

[Aluminati]

Mark Schultz. UFC 9. Made mincemeat out of Gary Goodridge with zero fight camp or preparation after replacing his recently murdered brother on the card. Despite being outweighed by 37 pounds, he came in, nailed three takedowns, landed 8 significant strikes (1 fight ending), and got hit precisely one time of note before retiring with a 100% win and finish rate.

 

[chinarice]

The point here is that if they retired after a few title fights at their peak like Khabib as you said, they still wouldn't be as statistically dominant as him round per round.

Khabib wouldn't have been statistically as dominant, as he continued to fight better fighters and more tape got out to be studied, like literally every fighter ever.

His dominance for a full career is unmatched. His resume isn't even top10.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

GSP won 33 consecutive rounds

 

[MMACro]

Best ever
Nobody matches that dominance in fights

 

[MMACro]

later destroyed both, Justin and Dustin, faster than Kabeeber did.

Oli also beat Dustin faster then Islam did
So it surely means Oli is superior to Islam right
OH WAIT ISLAM OWNED CHARLES AT HIS OWN GROUND GAME
What and idiot lmfao

 

[Migdagen]

First half of Jones and Anderson UFC careers. But full career, no one was as dominant. But we will never know if Khabib deserve a spot on a P4P list because he retired too soon.