WAR ROOM LOUNGE V42: Some People are Finer than Others

[HereticBD]

I didn’t read the thread yet but this sounds like a bet incoming?

Jack's not that crazy.

 

[Jack V Savage]

No, it's 100% true. You're the nutter in that thread. You have become everything you hate.

I don't think you believe that. It's just more of that attempt to try to shut down discussion.

From not accepting that Elizabeth Warren has been lying her ass about her heritage, to coming to you're own fantastical conclusions about the Mueller report, to now predicting Trump turns into a mad king of sorts, and doesn't accept losing an election, and follows it up by declaring himself a dictator('cause he can just do that, LOL), throwing his political enemies in prison, and pushing the country over the brink of civil war.

Warren hasn't been lying her ass off about her heritage, and I'm not saying anything about the report that isn't in it. Not even sure what you're talking about with that one. And I'm saying that it is a very real threat that Trump will try to fight a loss by weaponizing law enforcement. As I noted in the thread, he did tell a ridiculous lie about there being millions of illegal voters in an election he won. Republicans did try to steal the election for him being trying to get his opponent arrested on bullshit charges, an effort supported by a disturbing proportion of their followers. I think it's very likely that Trump will try something like that again, and not certain that he'll fail this time.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I didn’t read the thread yet but this sounds like a bet incoming?

He's (surprise) not representing what I'm saying correctly. American democracy is facing the greatest threat it's faced in more than a century. My expectation is that the threat will be defeated, but it's still a disturbing situation. I would bet that Trump will at least informally accuse his opponent of being a criminal and that if he loses, he'll claim (again, at least informally) that the election was stolen.

 

[HereticBD]

Warren hasn't been lying her ass off about her heritage, and I'm not saying anything about the report that isn't in it. Not even sure what you're talking about with that one. And I'm saying that it is a very real threat that Trump will try to fight a loss by weaponizing law enforcement. As I noted in the thread, he did tell a ridiculous lie about there being millions of illegal voters in an election he won. Republicans did try to steal the election for him being trying to get his opponent arrested on bullshit charges, an effort supported by a disturbing proportion of their followers. I think it's very likely that Trump will try something like that again, and not certain that he'll fail this time.

And as if to make my point for me...

 

[Fawlty]

Oof, why would you call attention to that thread? You're getting humiliated. You're calling everyone nutters, while predicting a future where Trump loses the election, doesn't step down, tosses a bunch of people in prison, and Civil War commences.

He's kicking the shit out of the morons in that thread.

 

[HereticBD]

He's kicking the shit out of the morons in that thread.

Man, it's so unlike you to hang off of Jack's nuts. I'm truly astonished by your take on the situation in that thread.

 

[Jack V Savage]

And as if to make my point for me...

You're making my point for me. You accused me, for example, of coming to a fantastical conclusion about the report. What was it? Who knows? You won't say. You don't think that I said anything objectively false; you're just trying to signal your tribal allegiance.

 

[Fawlty]

Man, it's so unlike you to hang off of Jack's nuts. I'm truly astonished by your take on the situation in that thread.

It's true no matter where you mentally locate me in relation to his testicles.

 

[HereticBD]

It's true no matter where you mentally locate me in relation to his testicles.

This is truly eye-opening for me. I mean, what's next? @BarryDillon agreeing with Jack? If that happens, I may just have to change my opinion on the whole matter. If completely non-partisans like yourselves think Jack is right, maybe there is something to it.

 

[Fawlty]

This is truly eye-opening for me. I mean, what's next? @BarryDillon agreeing with Jack? If that happens, I may just have to change my opinion on the whole matter. If completely non-partisans like yourselves think Jack is right, maybe there is something to it.

Muh tribes

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Trump won't try and weaponized the DOJ lol.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/jeff-sessions-hillary-clinton-donald-trump.html

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions had a tenuous hold on his job when President Trump called him at home in the middle of 2017. The president had already blamed him for recusing himself from investigations related to the 2016 election, sought his resignation and belittled him in private and on Twitter.

Now, Mr. Trump had another demand: He wanted Mr. Sessions to reverse his recusal and order the prosecution of Hillary Clinton.

“The ‘gist’ of the conversation,” according to the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, quoting Mr. Sessions, “was that the president wanted Sessions to unrecuse from ‘all of it.’”

 

[Jack V Savage]

This is truly eye-opening for me. I mean, what's next? @BarryDillon agreeing with Jack? If that happens, I may just have to change my opinion on the whole matter. If completely non-partisans like yourselves think Jack is right, maybe there is something to it.

Doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with anything or how mad any of that makes you. The facts are what they are.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with anything or how mad any of that makes you. The facts are what they are.

Would you say the facts don't care about his feelings?

 

[HereticBD]

Doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with anything or how mad any of that makes you. The facts are what they are.

That fact is, you're a nutter screaming at the sky to stop falling.

But hey, want to bet that if Trump loses the election he'll leave peacefully, without any civil war breaking out?

 

[Higus]

This is truly eye-opening for me. I mean, what's next? @BarryDillon agreeing with Jack? If that happens, I may just have to change my opinion on the whole matter. If completely non-partisans like yourselves think Jack is right, maybe there is something to it.

You sounds jealous

 

[Jack V Savage]

That fact is, you're a nutter screaming at the sky to stop falling.

But hey, want to bet that if Trump loses the election he'll leave peacefully, without any civil war breaking out?

I said what I'd bet on. That he'll at least informally accuse his opponent of being a criminal and that if he loses he'll claim to have been cheated in some way. The question is just whether his own people will take him as seriously as all previous presidents would have been taken if they made those kinds of claims. Most likely, his people will dismiss him as a clown, but it's not a guarantee.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

That fact is, you're a nutter screaming at the sky to stop falling.

But hey, want to bet that if Trump loses the election he'll leave peacefully, without any civil war breaking out?

If Trump loses the election do you think he will publicly and vehemently contest the legitimacy of the results?

 

[HereticBD]

I said what I'd bet on. That he'll at least informally accuse his opponent of being a criminal and that if he loses he'll claim to have been cheated in some way.

That's a far cry from refusing to leave office, locking a bunch of his political enemies up, and starting a civil war.

You've gone from that, to "He'll probably complain about it". LOL

 

[Fawlty]

By the way, NYT updated their paywall to test the effectiveness of disabling their articles for Incognito Mode. The best way around it is to use web archives like http://web.archive.org/web/. Just paste the story's URL and a calendar will come up with all the cached versions marked on the calendar. Click any of them and you should be able to read the story.

 

[Jack V Savage]

That's a far cry from refusing to leave office, locking a bunch of his political enemies up, and starting a civil war.

You've gone from that, to "He'll probably complain about it". LOL

My point is the same as it's always been. It's just that you were lying about what it was because you think it's reasonable but you want to portray me as unreasonable. Here's from my very first post in the thread:

"It's a lock that he'll accuse his opponent this time of being a criminal and not as certain that law enforcement won't go along with it."

I stand behind that 100%. He'll accuse his opponent of being a criminal, and the chances that law enforcement will go along with that are higher than they were when he pulled that in 2016.