Wanderlei Silva gets lifetime ban

[giusti825]

He's refusing to fight by not paying the fine in accordance with his suspension. That's his doing, not the UFC.

He's refusing to do the things that he needs to do to be legally allowed to fight.

The UFC is under the regulation of the ACs. there's not a judge in the world that would rule against them for abiding by the rules of the ACs. Don't be dumb.

He could just take a fight in a different jurisdiction. Problem solved...

 

[workdiggitz]

if anything this just shows you how much the nsac is in bed with the ufc. lets face it this " sport" is as corrupt as boxing

 

[born2killl]

The length will probably get appealed down to a 2 year suspension. No major incident occurred that warrants a lifetime ban.

No. This will become the new standard. 1 strike youre out.
WADA is coming soon too so juicers better unjuice themselves quick.

 

[the muntjac]

Well, if it's true that he retired, I guess it doesn't really matter if he gets a lifetime ban.

 

[aker2703]

lol

I wouldn't ever say that in a thread, you must have confused me with someone else

yes you did. You had the Gabriel Gonzaga (stupid Moustache AV) and we had a AV bet.

you know you welched (knowing that you also had a account bet) for the same fight.

stop lying.

 

[giusti825]

He's refusing to fight by not paying the fine in accordance with his suspension. That's his doing, not the UFC.

He's refusing to do the things that he needs to do to be legally allowed to fight.

The UFC is under the regulation of the ACs. there's not a judge in the world that would rule against them for abiding by the rules of the ACs. Don't be dumb.

The contract that the fighters sign is between the fighter and the UFC. If the UFC breaches contract, the fighter can have it terminated.

 

[SerrabyTKO]

The contract that the fighters sign is between the fighter and the UFC. If the UFC breaches contract, the fighter can have it terminated.

The UFC are not in breach by upholding the rules of the Athletic commissions.

I'm through running in circles with you. The UFC have done nothing wrong. Wand is the one at fault by breaking the rules. The UFC is not in breach of anything by upholding those rules. If he tried to go fight in Atlantic city, they would force him to pay the fine before they licensed him, and he wouldn't. It would be the same in any other state.

 

[giusti825]

"unless terminated sooner or extended further pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement."

So like during a suspension.

The UFC has the ability to schedule the fighter in another jurisdiction. Not doing so would be a choice that violates the terms of the contract. The UFC has to choose not to schedule the fighter. That is not a choice the AC gets to make, nor is the fighter contracted to the athletic commission.

 

[Cro Cop Is Back]

Sad

 

[SerrabyTKO]

The UFC has the ability to schedule the fighter in another jurisdiction. Not doing so would be a choice that violates the terms of the contract. The UFC has to choose not to schedule the fighter. That is not a choice the AC gets to make, nor is the fighter contracted to the athletic commission.

The UFC is a fight promotion wich is bound by law to abide by the rules of the athletic commissions.

Wand would still have to pay the fine to fight in any other jurisdiction. The UFC breach nothing because wand broke the rule and won't accept his punishment. No judge in the world will rule against the UFC in this situation, no matter how much you try to obfuscate it.

 

[giusti825]

The UFC are not in breach by upholding the rules of the Athletic commissions.

I'm through running in circles with you. The UFC have done nothing wrong. Wand is the one at fault by breaking the rules. The UFC is not in breach of anything by upholding those rules. If he tried to go fight in Atlantic city, they would force him to pay the fine before they licensed him, and he wouldn't. It would be the same in any other state.

If he fought in japan, brazil, england, japan, china, or anywhere else, they wouldnt. Quit acting like the ufc only hosts shows in the US.

 

[aker2703]

Sorry. My post was confusing.

I was saying that in one of the situations that Overeem was in the room with other fighters when they were told that they had to take a drug test. He ran and drove off. It doesn't matter that Kizer got ahold of him later and got him to come back. He ran.

The other situation was a joke too.

-The assistant supposedly didn't tell Overeem about he drug test until 3 days later (yeah right)
-Overeem still waited 4 days to take the test after his assistant informed him of it.
-Then they waited 8 days to get the results.
-Then it was revealed that he took wrong test
-Then Overeem's assistant waited 4 days to tell him he had to take it again.

3 weeks later Overeem finally takes the correct test. (when he was obviously clean)

Running is running. Wanderlei offered to take the test later too. The commission accepted Overeem's test 3 weeks later but refused to accept Wanderlei taking a later test.

We are never going to agree.

What i will say is they fucked up both times in regards to Overeem. He should have been suspended for the bullshit he pulled (pre 141) because his story was complete garbage. maybe if the NSAC was competent they would have.

He should have gotten way more than nine months for the 146 fiasco. I think 12+ months was the right call (hell 2 years wouldn't have been a problem for me).

I will also admit that kizer leaving and the new director wanting to clamp down (with an iron fist) didn't help Wand....but again if he had just taken the test he would have gotten 6-12 months. He done goofed.

 

[giusti825]

The UFC is a fight promotion wich is bound by law to abide by the rules of the athletic commissions.

Wand would still have to pay the fine to fight in any other jurisdiction. The UFC breach nothing because wand broke the rule and won't accept his punishment. No judge in the world will rule against the UFC in this situation, no matter how much you try to obfuscate it.

Thats incorrect. The UFC is not obilgated in any way as they are not the party being disciplined. Any responsibility to pay a fine is solely on Wands shoulders, and only in nevada. (or subject to action from a federal court if he fought elsewhere)

 

[aker2703]

I really hope it doesn't come to that.

If Wand tries to breach his Zuffa contract (like Winston Wolf) suggests, then you better believe they will.

I personally doubt Wand is that stupid though.

 

[SerrabyTKO]

Thats incorrect.

See you say that, but its not true. There's language in the contracts that we've been posting that allow for they extention of the time frame. :icon_lol:

 

[aker2703]

If he fought in japan, brazil, england, japan, china, or anywhere else, they wouldnt. Quit acting like the ufc only hosts shows in the US.

The UFC would never book a fight for a fighter (anywhere) when that fighter is suspended by the NSAC, and if you think otherwise you are seriously deluded.

 

[iambroken]

Wandisimo brought this on himself. he ran from the test and didn't show up to the hearing. I am not a fan of the NASC but the did the right thing here.

 

[SerrabyTKO]

Thats incorrect. The UFC is not obilgated in any way as they are not the party being disciplined. Any responsibility to pay a fine is solely on Wands shoulders, and only in nevada. (or subject to action from a federal court if he fought elsewhere)

Right, and Wand refusing to pay the fine constitutes a refusal to fight.

 

[Hendo101]

Bs

war wand

 

[Winston Wolf]

you know Wand lives in Vegas right? He owns business in Vegas right? so if wand breached his contract and tried to fight in Brazil, Zuffa would file an injunction and if Wand ignored it, they would file suit in Vegas and sue the shit out of him.

Obviously. I'm sure an hypotethical agreement between Bellator and Wand would likely include Bellator having to cover any such penalties. I'm assuming the amount Wand would owe Zuffa would not be enough to discourage Bellator from taking such a big opportunity to enter one of the biggest MMA markets in the world with a bang.