Volkanovski won against Islam

A cheering crowd, small guy going up & finishing in a dominant position doesn't overturn that Islam won 3 or 4 rounds.

Islam only had 2 clear rounds in my book: round 1 and 4, and even round 4 opens up a lot of doors for discussion on how scoring should work. Volk only had 1 clear round: round 5. rounds 2 and 3 were toss ups, but I gave 2 to islam and 3 to volk.
 
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LOL if there was no time limit , there would be no rounds then in that case wouldnt volk have been choked out early in the piece anyway? He was saved by the bell

In your idiotic daydreams.

Volk eventually NULLIFIED Makhachev ... then TOOK HIM DOWN ... and BEAT HIM DOWN ... in front of the world.

Gomer Pyle (Makhachev) HAD NOTHING but "a loser's smile at the end" ...

Denial ≠ Rebuttal
 
Pretty clear victory for Islam. Volk did better than people expected so they think he won. But he was on defense for a good 98% of the fight and defense doesn't score points.

Volk was throwing more strikes every round than islam and initiating most of the exchanges. I'm not sure why you think he was defensive for 98 percent of the fight, but I too edged the fight to islam. Even in round 4, when islam had volk's back, islam was never in position to even go for the choke. I'm not one of those people who shit on stalling from the figure four on the back (aljo and maia are two of my favorites) but that was the epitome of what people complain about and not offensive at all.
 
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Volk was throwing more strikes every round than islam and initiating most of the exchanges. I'm not sure why you think he was defensive for 98 percent of the fight, but I too edged the fight to islam. Even in round 4, when islam had volk's back, islam was never in position to even go for the choke. I'm not one of those people who shit on stalling from the figure four on the back (aljo and maia are two of my favorites) but that was the epitome of what people complain about and not offensive at all.

Well 98% might be an exaggeration, lol, but I still say Volk was on the defense more than he was on offense for the majority of the fight. Even in the situation you mentioned, Islam on the back puts Volk in a defensive position no matter how dull.
 
In your idiotic daydreams.

Volk eventually NULLIFIED Makhachev ... then TOOK HIM DOWN ... and BEAT HIM DOWN ... in front of the world.

Gomer Pyle (Makhachev) HAD NOTHING but "a loser's smile at the end" ...

Denial ≠ Rebuttal
You said nothing to rebut him. You changed the subject. Did Volk nullify Islam, then take him down in round 1? Preventing exactly what he said?

No?

Then tell him why he's wrong. Volk was saved by round 1 ending. Period. That's not delusion or a daydream.

Maybe you can break out your colors and call people idiots for not understanding the ZERO substantive arguments you make. That'll show everyone
 
Well 98% might be an exaggeration, lol, but I still say Volk was on the defense more than he was on offense for the majority of the fight. Even in the situation you mentioned, Islam on the back puts Volk in a defensive position no matter how dull.

It does in theory, except in practice, it wasn't. He didn't even attempt to go for offense from that position, and as light as Volk's punches were from there, they were more offensive than islam not even trying to go for a choke. It's all good though, I'm fine with the decision at the end of the day.
 
I love Volk, I thought he lost, one of those close ones that could have gone either way. That said this loss might have been his most impressive effort thus far, I didn't give him a realistic chance.
 
In your idiotic daydreams.

Volk eventually NULLIFIED Makhachev ... then TOOK HIM DOWN ... and BEAT HIM DOWN ... in front of the world.

Gomer Pyle (Makhachev) HAD NOTHING but "a loser's smile at the end" ...

Denial ≠ Rebuttal
He was in a body triangle and got saved by the bell, if we're being consistent
 
I scored the rounds 1, 2 for Islam and 3, 4, 5 for Volk. No way was it even close to being a robbery though: rounds 2 and 3 were extremely tight, and the scoring of the 4th is highly ambiguous.

On one hand, the commonly set precedent in MMA judging would favor Islam clearly winning the round, but on the other, the scoring criteria as it is actually written can clearly be interpreted (which I did) in Volk's favor.

Even if Islam held a position that is conventionally considered to be dominant for almost the entirety of the 4th, it shouldn't have been scored as effective grappling beyond the initial back take to begin with. Effective grappling is not just about achieving a position and holding onto it, but is based on what you can actually do to threaten the opponent with said position.

Volk was the actual aggressor and doing practically all of the damage while in the position, and Islam was completely unable to threaten Volk with any submissions for the entire time. Volk had control of Islam's right arm by having it pinned under his body weight, and Islam was unable to free the arm at any point after Volk established the pin. The threat of an RNC simply never was there after that point.

At best, Islam won the cage control aspect of the round since Volk could not escape, but going by the rules, that only comes to play if literally everything else is even, which it wasn't.
 
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Goat has them shook.
 
I scored the rounds 1, 2 for Islam and 3, 4, 5 for Volk. No way was it even close to being a robbery though: rounds 2 and 3 were extremely tight, and the scoring of the 4th is highly ambiguous.

On one hand, the commonly set precedent in MMA judging would favor Islam clearly winning the round, but on the other, the scoring criteria as it is actually written can clearly be interpreted (which I did) in Volk's favor.

Even if Islam held a position that is conventionally considered to be dominant for almost the entirety of the 4th, it shouldn't have been scored as effective grappling beyond the initial back take to begin with. Effective grappling is not just about achieving a position and holding onto it, but is based on what you can actually do to threaten the opponent with said position.

Volk was the actual aggressor and doing practically all of the damage while in the position, and Islam was completely unable to threaten Volk with any submissions for the entire time. Volk had control of Islam's right arm by having it pinned under his body weight, and Islam was unable to free the arm at any point after Volk established the pin. The threat of an RNC simply never was there after that point.

At best, Islam won the cage control aspect of the round since Volk could not escape, but going by the rules, that only comes to play if literally everything else is even, which it wasn't.

volk wasn’t doing anything. Islam hold him like his baby.
Did he attempt to escape or did Volk accept position?
If he accepted his position. This means Volk was stalling. If he was trying to escape but couldn’t. This means this is effective grappling by Islam.
It’s hilarious how people try to spin a back take as if Volk was the winner in that position.
You can choose from these two options.
Either Volk was accepting his position and was stalling.
Or Volk tried to escape and couldn’t because of the effective grappling of Islam.
Which one do you choose?
 
volk wasn’t doing anything. Islam hold him like his baby.
If he accepted his position. This means Volk was stalling.
The only offense that was being done in the position were the short arm punches Volk was landing on Islam's face, so it was actually Islam who was doing nothing but stalling.
If he was trying to escape but couldn’t. This means this is effective grappling by Islam.

Or Volk tried to escape and couldn’t because of the effective grappling of Islam.
No. Simply holding the opponent in a position against their will is not scored as effective grappling, it is scored as control, and control doesn't affect the scoring unless everything else is literally even.

Effective grappling is based on using a position to threaten the opponent which Islam wasn't doing. Read the rules.
It’s hilarious how people try to spin a back take as if Volk was the winner in that position.
What's hilarious is how few people who claim to be fans of the sport seem to be aware of the actual scoring criteria of said sport.
 
The only offense that was being done in the position were the short arm punches Volk was landing on Islam's face, so it was actually Islam who was doing nothing but stalling.

No. Simply holding the opponent in a position against their will is not scored as effective grappling, it is scored as control, and control doesn't affect the scoring unless everything else is literally even.

Effective grappling is based on using a position to threaten the opponent which Islam wasn't doing. Read the rules.

What's hilarious is how few people who claim to be fans of the sport seem to be aware of the actual scoring criteria of said sport.

Islam was threatening. That’s why Volk was protecting his neck instead of trying to escape.
Islam was in the best position. Which position should he have transitioned to exactly?
He was in the best position. That’s why Volk was protecting his neck.

throwing desperate baby punches is not offense. It’s simply frustration and submission.
Babies start to cry if they can’t move on the ground.
 
In your idiotic daydreams.

Volk eventually NULLIFIED Makhachev ... then TOOK HIM DOWN ... and BEAT HIM DOWN ... in front of the world.

Gomer Pyle (Makhachev) HAD NOTHING but "a loser's smile at the end" ...

Denial ≠ Rebuttal
You're the most pompous knob I've seen on here.
Hats off to you. You'll be adding another Lazarus account in no time.
 
Either 3-2 or 4-1 for Islam, the former being the most reasonable score.
Volk impressed by holding his own and Islam let down some of his most ardent believers by showing he ain't really that invincible.
All this talk of a 6th round or "winning the fight despite losing on points" is sheer childish cope.
It's a sanctioned professional fight under established rules.
Not your Streetfighter dreams come to fruition.
Your feelings are probably hurt because there's clearly hate for one and love for the other, but grow the fuck up.
 
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