Volkanovski won against Islam

Do you honestly think Islam was the clear winner?
(Not talking about within the timeframe, but overall?)

To me, Islam won "the MMA fight" ... we agree here ... but (IMO) Volk won THE BATTLE ...

In other words, Islam left the fight diminished, despite the win ... whereas Volk came out enhanced, despite the loss.

Yes. He clearly won that fight on a per round basis. He was awarded the fight as well. He was then given the title. You can look it up on Fight Finder too. You can miss me with these mental gymnastics.
 
I rewatched the fight, its a pure robbery
Late to the party AND wrong? I thought you were done making stupid threads when you ditched that red fucking mascot/cartoon avatar or whatever it was

BTW as good as this midget is, getting beaten by a midget show how overated islam is
Ban for trolling

Pound-for-pound, I agree Volk is the better fighter.
(In other words, had the sizes been reversed, for sure Volk would have won.)

That said, within the actual 5-round timeframe, Makhachev "beat" Volkanovski ...

PS: I also believe that Volk's resurgence, at the end of the last round, made me believe Volkanovski would have beat Makhachev in a fight with no time-limit.

PSS: I understand what you're saying, I think Volkanovski is the better man, all nuances considered.
You sure you're not scoring this one by "if the smaller fighter moved forward"?
 
more proof that volk had won because he had a quick turnaround and fought again whereas islam its been 69 months now!
 
Yes. He clearly won that fight on a per round basis. He was awarded the fight as well. He was then given the title. You can look it up on Fight Finder too. You can miss me with these mental gymnastics.


Noted.

Just capable of handling the facts (don't want to discuss any of the nuances).

You might be surprised to learn that "nuances" can be important in predicting the future.
 
Yes. He clearly won that fight on a per round basis. He was awarded the fight as well. He was then given the title. You can look it up on Fight Finder too. You can miss me with these mental gymnastics.

Yeah, although I would say I'm pretty sure I'd take Volk in a rematch and he may have laid out a gameplan for Charles to use.
 
I had it 3-2 Islam, can't see how Volk won. But it was a close fight and great effort by Volk.
 
I really don’t know.
Islam lost more stock although the judges gave it to him though.
Volk lost his first UFC fight, which I also don’t think is really true.

Islam calling out a featherweight instead of a Welterweight right after winning the title due to having a huge size advantage thinking he’d just roll through Volk ended up looking very bad though, Volk is basically now the Interim Lightweight and Featherweight champ because of that fight.

Islam was equaled in every part of the fight he supposedly was better in, and then got out worked on the feet while being unable to mount any real offensive subs or gnp

Volk meanwhile barely has a scratch and ends up in the most dominant position of the whole fight after one of the trickiest trips I’ve ever seen in the UFC.

It was a great fight, and I do recall a straight left Islam had caught Volk with that rocked him, as well as a beautiful takedown entrance that was absolutely perfect in execution, double leg but the way Islam wrapped himself on Volk’s leg was lighting fast.
 
Yes. He clearly won that fight on a per round basis. He was awarded the fight as well. He was then given the title. You can look it up on Fight Finder too. You can miss me with these mental gymnastics.
You sure you don't want to learn about nuances, Sub-Ab? Think about the future, son. You might be surprised.


This guy misses things so much, I think it's more like mental dodging.
 
"Sticking to the facts" = the best bet, usually.

However, "ignoring the nuances" can also = "terrible decision-making," for the future.

K.

You sure you don't want to learn about nuances, Sub-Ab? Think about the future, son. You might be surprised.


This guy misses things so much, I think it's more like mental dodging.

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Islam calling out a featherweight instead of a Welterweight right after winning the title due to having a huge size advantage thinking he’d just roll through Volk ended up looking very bad though
Pretty sure it was already stated going in that Volk would be fighting Islam/Charles, so it's not like Islam called out a featherweight. He just called out his already decided next challenger.

Volk is basically now the Interim Lightweight and Featherweight champ because of that fight.
Comon man. That's not how grown ups talk
 
Volk got laid on that 4th round which cost him the fight. Truth is Volk outperformed expectations which he should be credited for, but Islam still won 3 rounds under the rules in place. Islam definitely lost a lot of his aura he had going into that fight and by far looked more worn down by the end of the fight. Could see Volk adjusting and winning a rematch.
 
Yeah, although I would say I'm pretty sure I'd take Volk in a rematch and he may have laid out a gameplan for Charles to use.

That's fine. I was just addressing the OP and Stone Cold Steve Golem decided to italicize his opinion with fancy colors while atop the soap box.
 
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