Vettori vs this top 10

[ThunderStruck]

That further prove my point given that even though Strikeforce had better top talent at MW, after SF acquisition Fitch, Koscheck, Alves, BJ, Serra or Hardy weren't ranked WWs by the of the list in OP.

Which was the point of the guy I replied to, and you as every single day I get in this forum obsessively reply to me. Get a fucking sexdoll weirdo.

You're the one that posts bullshit and when i call for proofs you run like a little girl. Still waiting on your fighters poll btw.

And yeah of course all those WW weren't at the top anymore, since deep division's generations are a lot shorter. They didn't need the influx of Strikeforce fighters to create the new generation like the MW division needed.

 

[GOATtalks]

Tough guy to beat but you are also giving him more credit that he deserves imo.

He beat Rockolh, Jacare, Kenedy or Bisping "for sure" based on what? The only sure thing is that those guys in their prime would be Vettori's best win at 185 ever, in case he actualy won.

Who are the best wrestlers Marvin has faced?

Jack Hermansson is a good wrestler and Marvin beat him.

 

[pankrat]

You're the one that posts bullshit and when i call for proofs you run like a little girl. Still waiting on your fighters poll btw.

And yeah of course all those WW weren't at the top anymore, since deep division's generations are a lot shorter. They didn't need the influx of Strikeforce fighters to create the new generation like the MW division needed.

No, the funny thing is that the "deep division" needed of the influx of MWs like Maia, Lawler and Shields...and Marquardt, Strikeforce WW champion KOing long time UFC champ Woodley,

haha kid, I get Im your favorite poster in these boards and you certainly need of idols
Excuse me, go look for another partner, you literally reply me every single time I log in here, obsessively, please weirdo go away.

 

[pankrat]

Jack Hermansson is a good wrestler and Marvin beat him.

..and that's it.
Exactly the cheap, short, reply I expected coming from this exact type of poster haha

 

[marvinparsons]

Where would you rank Vettori when MW had this top 10

Weidman
Rockhold
Machida
Mousasi
Romero
Jacare
Silva
ViTRTor
Bisping
Kennedy

Might be able to wrestle no trt vitor or outpoint weidman/Kennedy/yoel. Any of them could KO him too, but he's got a thick head. Wouldn't favour Vetorri though.

I think Bisping is a bad match up.

 

[snugglecakes]

Why do the new sherdog rankings have costa ranked ahead of him?

 

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Where would you rank Vettori when MW had this top 10

Weidman
Rockhold
Machida
Mousasi
Romero
Jacare
Silva
ViTRTor
Bisping
Kennedy

Might beat Bisping and Kennedy but loses to everyone else.

 

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Might be able to wrestle no trt vitor or outpoint weidman/Kennedy/yoel. Any of them could KO him too, but he's got a thick head. Wouldn't favour Vetorri though.

I think Bisping is a bad match up.

Every single, competent wrestler (outside the Hammil robbery) that Bisping has faced he's lost to. His TDD isn't good and look at his record and you'll see most of Bisping's wins are against other strikers.

Vettori would maul Bisping on the ground.

 

[GOATtalks]

This thread is bullshit and the whole thread is basically fighter bashing. Vettori is ridiculously underrated here. He’s beaten top level guys like Costa, Hermansson and Holland, yet gets no credit for it.

He’s a huge MW, extremely durable, has great cardio, smothering pressure, good wrestling and striking. Yes, he isn’t a exceptional striker or grappler, but he’s extremely well rounded and his strength and conditioning exceeds anyone on that list.

Weidman- 50/50 fight, with Vettori winning the championship rounds

Rockhold- Marvin would probably beat him quite easily. He wouldn’t stay on the outside for Luke’s kicks to work and he wouldn’t go to the mat with Rockhold. Would drown Luke with his pace in close range. 70/30 Vettori

Machida- another 50/50 fight. If Izzy and Costa couldn’t finish Marvin, I doubt Machida would. Marvin could take this one with his relentlessness as well.

Mousasi- it’s tough fight for Marvin to win, Moose is better everywhere. 70/30 Mousasi

Romero- Yoel wouldn’t match Marvin’s pace. 70/30 Marvin

Jacare- another 50/50 fight. Either Jacare subs him or Marvin wins a UD

Silva- 60/40 Marvin. Pre Weidman maybe could’ve done what Izzy did to him, but post prime Anderson wouldn’t stop Marvin’s pressure

Vitor- 60/40 TRT

Bisping- 60/40 Marvin

Kennedy- 80/20 Marvin

 

[GOATtalks]

..and that's it.
Exactly the cheap, short, reply I expected coming from this exact type of poster haha

And once again I disproved your point and all you can do is attack me with insults. You’re a brain dead scum

 

[Argonaut]

The only ones I know he beats for sure are:
Kennedy
Machida

The rest will be close. Although Vettori isn't much of a finisher he definitely has skills and could hand with Adasanya on the feet. I see him being a tough test for everyone on the list.

 

[pankrat]

And once again I disproved your point and all you can do is attack me with insults. You’re a brain dead scum

Vale crack

 

[pankrat]

The only ones I know he beats for sure are:
Kennedy
Machida

The rest will be close. Although Vettori isn't much of a finisher he definitely has skills and could hand with Adasanya on the feet. I see him being a tough test for everyone on the list.

How is that he beats Machida for sure? The guy who beat Mousasi could make Marvin a chaser

 

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The only ones I know he beats for sure are:
Kennedy
Machida

The rest will be close. Although Vettori isn't much of a finisher he definitely has skills and could hand with Adasanya on the feet. I see him being a tough test for everyone on the list.

Why does he beat Machida? If anything Vettori is tailormade to chase Machida around the cage, get his relentless aggression used against him and knock out Machida vs Bader style.

Everyone who thinks Mousasi beats Vettori but Machida doesn't have forgotten Machida beat Mousasi 50-45.

 

[neandertal]

He catches Rockhold and loses to the rest. He might outlast and outpoint Jacare as well if Jac can't get the takedown. I rate Kennedy and Ping.

 

[ThunderStruck]

No, the funny thing is that the "deep division" needed of the influx of MWs like Maia, Lawler and Shields...and Marquardt, Strikeforce WW champion KOing long time UFC champ Woodley,

haha kid, I get Im your favorite poster in these boards and you certainly need of idols
Excuse me, go look for another partner, you literally reply me every single time I log in here, obsessively, please weirdo go away.

1. Maia was a WW all along. He had no business fighting at MW. He got a title shot like 6 years after the SF merger.
2. Lawler was a good addition but nowhere near in line for a WW title shot when GSP was still around. You do know he was a MW in SF right?
3. Shields was obviously the best WW coming from SF (Was a MW there but had a tons of good WW wins in his massive streak). GSP fought and beat him.
4. Marquardt.. As I said, 0-3 at WW in the UFC. Hardly a good addition to the roster.
5. Woodley lost badly to GSP's sidekick.
6. Who did Silva beat coming from the SF era?

 

[pankrat]

1. Maia was a WW all along. He had no business fighting at MW. He got a title shot like 6 years after the SF merger.
2. Lawler was a good addition but nowhere near in line for a WW title shot when GSP was still around.
3. Shields was obviously the best WW coming from SF. GSP fought and beat him.
4. Marquardt.. As I said, 0-3 at WW in the UFC. Hardly a good addition to the roster.
5. Woodley lost badly to GSP's sidekick.
6. Who did Silva beat coming from the SF era?

Muy bien.
Now go back to the video games and stop asking for my attention every single time Im around here you obsessive weirdo

 

[ThunderStruck]

Muy bien.
Now go back to the video games and stop asking for my attention every single time Im around here you obsessive weirdo

Oh the irony.

And nice rebuttal bro.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Surely he was juiced when they fought?

We will also notice that Fitch, Koscheck, Alves, BJ, Serra, Hardy weren't in the rankings by 2014-2015 which is around the time of OP.
Even thought MW was Strikeforce prime division, not WW.

Yet do you say WW was weak because of that? Let me guess

That image you talk about didnt come from fellow fighters or the MMA community as you might think reading sherdog and the huge crowd of Canadian boys.

And specially the three guys you mentioned, who arent Coté nor Lutter.

lmfao they so removed from that era that they aren't worth mentioning, I mentioned yushin chael and maia because they are andersons last 5 title defenses minus vitor who i addressed, they are the fighters closest to overlapping with the era OP has mentioned. Lutter was out of the ufc at the time i think cote was still around, but the middleweight division changed drastically at that time.

I'm not exactly sure what your obsession with george st.pierre is, but GSP fought the acquired champion at strikeforce (Diaz, Shields) and The acquired champion at WEC (Condit).

and for what it's worth I think Condit, woodley, Lawler, MacDonald, Ellenburger, beat fitch kos bj serra and hardy.

Oh the irony.

And nice rebuttal bro.

Yeah he's clearly a retard and absolutely obsessed with GSP as no one even brought up george except for him.

absolutely OBSESSED. he needs help.

 

[marvinparsons]

Every single, competent wrestler (outside the Hammil robbery) that Bisping has faced he's lost to. His TDD isn't good and look at his record and you'll see most of Bisping's wins are against other strikers.

Vettori would maul Bisping on the ground.

Bisping has better TDD and ability to get up than anyone Vettori has wrestlefucked, including 2018 Adesanya.

Bisping gave Chael a hard time and he's a better wrestler than Vettori. 5 round fight and Bisping takes that fight.

On the feet it's basically a pick em.