International US seized oil tanker off Venezuelan coast

Yeah the peace President is dragging us into war he is even admitting it now taking out drug boats was an effort to sell what he is doing now., President Donald Cheney Trump. Cheney I mean Trump on the tanker: It's ours now.

Trump talking to the captain of the Tanker.
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I would like to know the reason they took it first.
Pressure tactic against Maduro

From what I understand Venezuelan oil is shit and not worth the effort. So the idea this is to steal oil doesn't make sense.
Its "shit" in the same way Canadian oil is shit.

US companies with its high tech refineries are the few places that can refine it properly at commercial level.
 
LMAO at those people who actually believed we cared about drug cartels in Venezuela.

The money from this oil will help fund further operations and we're trying to get Maduro deposed.


President Donald Trump speaks during a roundtable discussion in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on December 10.

President Donald Trump speaks during a roundtable discussion in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on December 10.

President Donald Trump on Wednesday confirmed that the US has taken control of an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela.
“As you probably know we’ve just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela,” Trump said. “Large tanker, very large, largest one ever seized, actually.”

The president did not offer any detailed explanation for the move, saying only that it was seized “for very good reason” and signaling that the administration would soon release additional information. Asked what would happen to the oil the tanker was transporting, Trump said, “We keep it, I guess.”

The move risks further escalating tensions with Venezuela, where Trump has intensified a pressure campaign aimed at forcing the nation’s leader, Nicolas Maduro, out of power.

In response to questions from CNN’s Kristen Holmes, Trump said he had not spoken to Maduro recently and declined to say who owns the seized tanker. A person familiar with the matter said the tanker was heading to Cuba.

The US is now months into a pressure campaign that has included moving thousands of troops and a carrier strike group into the Caribbean, strikes on suspected drug boats and repeated threats against Maduro. So far, the US military has killed 87 people in strikes that have destroyed 23 alleged drug boats, and Trump has repeatedly suggested action on land could come soon.

CNN has reported the Trump administration is working on day-after plans in the event Maduro is ousted from power, according to two senior administration officials and another source familiar with the discussions.

Maduro did not address the seized tanker in a speech Wednesday that was occurring as news of the US’s move was circulating.
of course he wouldn't respond yet. He's backed by Putin. I think you are doing a ironic joke which is pretty funny otherwise... dude.
 
of course he wouldn't respond yet. He's backed by Putin. I think you are doing a ironic joke which is pretty funny otherwise... dude.

What is ironic about this?

I've stated repeatedly before this that this whole Venezuela thing was about oil, getting rid of Maduro, and to a lesser extent, lessen Chinese and Russian influence with Latin America. Plus, Cuba is almost entirely reliant on Venezuelan oil.
 
What is ironic about this?

I've stated repeatedly before this that this whole Venezuela thing was about oil, getting rid of Maduro, and to a lesser extent, lessen Chinese and Russian influence with Latin America. Plus, Cuba is almost entirely reliant on Venezuelan oil.
If that's the actual plan, I speechless in its stupidity. I don't even know where to start. All legitimacy america had was wiped out when they were blowing up fisherman and lying about it just to start. So now both sides of the country which by the way is in a cold civil war really don't like the American military.

Just to start on how stupid this if this the actual plan. Let's just forget the fucking actual season they are in with weather. Christmas winds are going to be kicking up at random times fuck fucks sake.
 
Point of reference
Imagine threatening to invade one of hottest places on earth in the hot as fuck dry season in a period where the winds shift full 180s at a 40 mph total difference. Christmas winds. 20 West one day 20 east. Then some days no wind. And there's no fucking clouds.

They are going to think you are retarded. Anyone who knows about this place thinks you're unsure retarded. Now imagine an entire continent and the Caribbean. Even the fucking lets invade in a blizzard because Putin likes repeating digits, know it's retarded
 
"We need to lessen Chinese influence in these places".

Yeah so instead of making business relationships with them and gaining their support like China did, we can just invade and blow them up. Worked so great in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Funny how the regular MAGA clown car crew is absent from this thread. Probably in a private chat figuring out how to distract and strawman a defense for it.
 
"We need to lessen Chinese influence in these places".

Yeah so instead of making business relationships with them and gaining their support like China did, we can just invade and blow them up. Worked so great in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Funny how the regular MAGA clown car crew is absent from this thread. Probably in a private chat figuring out how to distract and strawman a defense for it.

Part of the reason is that Venezuela is trying to steal Guyana's oil reserves by annexing 2/3rds of their territory.
 
"We need to lessen Chinese influence in these places".
China has already cut its losses in Venezuela, nowadays its only Cubans, Russians, Iranians and several drug cartels and Colombian guerrillas are invested in it, its literally a mob country and an international safe haven for criminal activity.


Yeah so instead of making business relationships with them and gaining their support like China did, we can just invade and blow them up. Worked so great in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
US already had business relationship with Venezuela, one of the rare instances of the US prioritizing what was right instead of economic benefit.
 
This administration is so incompetent it's kind of crazy.


I wonder what's your opinion on it after knowing the ship was sanctioned by Biden for helping smuggle oil for the IRGC/Hezbollah.

I know you tend to become the biggest neocon when it comes to Israel.
 
China has already cut its losses in Venezuela, nowadays its only Cubans, Russians, Iranians and several drug cartels and Colombian guerrillas are invested in it, its literally a mob country and an international safe haven for criminal activity.



US already had business relationship with Venezuela, one of the rare instances of the US prioritizing what was right instead of economic benefit.
Dude. China runs the Orinoco Belt. Leave the thread.
 

Yeah. He didn't know about this being china's. "Cut it's losses"
They've signed like 600 bilateral trade agreements.....This year alone btw.
The thing is the Chinese have caught up enough in Petro tech to start running the fields back up to old numbers if they keep investing and it works out.

If you don't know about the region please just go away.
 
NO don't go away.
everyone keep talking.
it's informative and entertaining!
 
China has already cut its losses in Venezuela, nowadays its only Cubans, Russians, Iranians and several drug cartels and Colombian guerrillas are invested in it, its literally a mob country and an international safe haven for criminal activity.



US already had business relationship with Venezuela, one of the rare instances of the US prioritizing what was right instead of economic benefit.

Exactly how do you think US boots on the ground will improve that? Do you really think toppling Maduro will go any better than toppling Gaddafi, Saddam, or the Taliban? If I'm not mistaken, you are from Mexico or Central America so I know you have vested interest in seeing that happen. But as an American, I've seen this episode before and it sucks. Both countries always end up worse off than before we got involved. Americans are not competent or ethical enough to ever pull off regime change effectively.
 
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Exactly how do you think US boots on the ground will improve that? Do you really think toppling Maduro will go any better than toppling Gaddafi, Saddam, or the Taliban?
Yes


If I'm not mistaken, you are from Mexico or Central America so I know you have vested interest in seeing that happen.
Yes


But as an American, I've seen this episode before and it sucks. Both countries always end up worse off than before we got involved.
You mean like Panama in 1989.
 
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