Unpopular opinion - Jamahal was right to be upset about the Poatan KO

[moreorless87]

Honestly I don't thin Hill really needed to make excuses, yeah he lost but honestly he didnt loose via a bad performance, he just faced an opponent who pulled out an amazing punch to put him down.

 

[CasualBot]

This is pathetic.

It is the steven glansberg of opinions.

Jamalullz fat jigglin gut isn't impressive.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

It shouldn't matter. Herb called time or not, pay attention to wtf is happening. Poatan sure did

You aren't getting it. When a ref calls time he is supposed to reset the fighters. Yes Hill should have kept moving to avoid Poatan closing the distance but that doesn't negate Herb's error. It was a unique situation to some extent but in the future refs should ensure if they call time that they reset the fighters and restart the action, not one of the competitors.

When a ref says stop you have to turn off the Kill Mode. Hill is still at fault for getting KO'd. Herb still made an error.

 

[brakkkop]

your boi lost, get over it and move on instead of crying

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You aren't getting it. When a ref calls time he is supposed to reset the fighters. Yes Hill should have kept moving to avoid Poatan closing the distance but that doesn't negate Herb's error. It was a unique situation to some extent but in the future refs should ensure if they call time that they reset the fighters and restart the action, not one of the competitors.

When a ref says stop you have to turn off the Kill Mode. Hill is still at fault for getting KO'd. Herb still made an error.

They were at a neutral distance and both in a ready stance. They didn't need resetting because they were both already set, so he called continue to restart the action. No error

Edit* also, what? Hill should have kept moving? He did keep moving. Watch it again. Poatan resets himself when Herb is calling stop, but is standing still (again, ready position at neutral distance) after that and until after Herb says continue. Once Herb says continue, it's HILL who starts moving. He just circles instead of backs up and Pereira advanced cutting him off. Pereira didn't get any unfair advantage and Hill was not in any way disadvantaged, other than maybe turning his brain off and not turning it back on in time, but that would be on him, and it would imply his brain is ever really running. He got the call out and got the call in and was at a safe distance either way.

 

[HHJ]

You aren't getting it. When a ref calls time he is supposed to reset the fighters. Yes Hill should have kept moving to avoid Poatan closing the distance but that doesn't negate Herb's error. It was a unique situation to some extent but in the future refs should ensure if they call time that they reset the fighters and restart the action, not one of the competitors.

When a ref says stop you have to turn off the Kill Mode. Hill is still at fault for getting KO'd. Herb still made an error.

So he wasnt right to be upset about the Poatan KO

 

[Cat Biscuits]

Do you just want attention or something? Why keep beating this dead horse?

They had plenty of time after the pause to reset and fight. Hill wasn't caught off guard. He literally timed and threw a punch at the exact same time that Alex did, but his missed.

How does a guy who "isn't ready" throw a punch during an exchange that he was clearly anticipating? Please explain that to me.

 

[Dorkman]

The weird series of events was literally jamahals doing. He fouled his opponent, then claimed he should have been allowed a disengage(which is an advantage when being backed up against the fence) for fouling his opponent. That's ludicrous. The fight was restarted, they touched gloves signaling they were both ready to go. And hill threw first. There is 0 controversy here. We saw exactly what can happen a few weeks ago when a fighter is allowed free disengage for fouling his opponent with kopylov and Curtis. Kopylov was wilting, and got 2 free breaks for fouls. Allowed him to survive with more in the tank, and turn it around in the third. That is an actual injustice, not what hill experienced.

 

[El Fernas]

Jamahal has showed that he can take a loss properly after losing to Jiri.

IIRC his first words after defeat were "i got caught", so did he? Here there are no funny business, no ref to blame, nothing, fight went for 13 minutes where he was getting beat, there are no excuse yet he said "i got caught", Jose Aldo got caught by Conor Mcgregor, this lasted 13 minutes, not 13 seconds.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

They were at a neutral distance and both in a ready stance. They didn't need resetting because they were both already set, so he called continue to restart the action. No error

Edit* also, what? Hill should have kept moving? He did keep moving. Watch it again. Poatan resets himself when Herb is calling stop, but is standing still (again, ready position at neutral distance) after that and until after Herb says continue. Once Herb says continue, it's HILL who starts moving. He just circles instead of backs up and Pereira advanced cutting him off. Pereira didn't get any unfair advantage and Hill was not in any way disadvantaged, other than maybe turning his brain off and not turning it back on in time, but that would be on him, and it would imply his brain is ever really running. He got the call out and got the call in and was at a safe distance either way.

Pereira did advance. Stop...two movements forward, waives Herb off. It is very slight but it mattered. Otherwise why did Alex advance. watch it again.

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[dipstickjimmy]

So he wasnt right to be upset about the Poatan KO

Not understanding this? When you say he who are you referrring to? When you say Poatan KO what KO? When Alex was KO'd or when He (being Hill???) got KO'd?

Any fighter should be upset they got KO'd.

 

[HHJ]

Not understanding this? When you say he who are you referrring to? When you say Poatan KO what KO? When Alex was KO'd or when He (being Hill???) got KO'd?

Any fighter should be upset they got KO'd.

lol

and as far as "any fighter should be upset they got KO'd" Well then there was no need to make this thread then, as it's not an unpopular opinion.

 

[maximus__]

You aren't getting it. When a ref calls time he is supposed to reset the fighters. Yes Hill should have kept moving to avoid Poatan closing the distance but that doesn't negate Herb's error. It was a unique situation to some extent but in the future refs should ensure if they call time that they reset the fighters and restart the action, not one of the competitors.

When a ref says stop you have to turn off the Kill Mode. Hill is still at fault for getting KO'd. Herb still made an error.

No he didn't. Herb stepped in to check on a fighter that had been fouled. Alex said he was fine.
Herb stepped back, there was a clear acknowledgement that the fight was back on and Hill threw a opportunistic strike that Alex countered.

Hill is just complaining because Alex countered his crappy strike. Same way he got countered vs Jiri by having no defence when he was throwing his own shots.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

lol

and as far as "any fighter should be upset they got KO'd" Well then there was no need to make this thread then, as it's not an unpopular opinion.

I seriously wanted you to clarify your previous post. Not sure who and what you were referring to. Also I didn't make this thread.

 

[HHJ]

I seriously wanted you to clarify your previous post. Not sure who and what you were referring to. Also I didn't make this thread.

Me neither ! it's far too complicated for anyone to understand.

 

[Fergelmince]

The weird series of events was literally jamahals doing. He fouled his opponent, then claimed he should have been allowed a disengage(which is an advantage when being backed up against the fence) for fouling his opponent. That's ludicrous. The fight was restarted, they touched gloves signaling they were both ready to go. And hill threw first. There is 0 controversy here. We saw exactly what can happen a few weeks ago when a fighter is allowed free disengage for fouling his opponent with kopylov and Curtis. Kopylov was wilting, and got 2 free breaks for fouls. Allowed him to survive with more in the tank, and turn it around in the third. That is an actual injustice, not what hill experienced.

@Marko Polo

Yeah, Hill even gave the ref and Pereira 1 thumbs up, touched his chest indicating "My bad," then gives a 2nd thumbs up before touching gloves. That's a lot of indication to everyone involved that you're ready to go. Pereira didn't move forward between the time Dean calls time out and then starts action again, so Pereira doesn't appear to get in range, or better position to any measurable degree.

 

[chardog]

it could be that he wasnt ready for the reset, however you got to remember he came back after a bad injury and a long layoff, he should have fought a can to get back in the rhythm before going after the king. Jamal has always been a very good fighter, he wasnt ready for that smoke, possibly ever, Pererra is a monster.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Jamahal's fat ass cut 50lbs for the Jiri fight and still came in fat

 

[Pechan]

Retarded take.

 

[Mind Mine]

I found it a shit stoppage but disagree with a lot you said. I may have agreed with a couple things but hell nah broseph he got the knucks fair and square just shit stoppage