UFN 92 - Caceres vs Rodriguez - Utah

[ApplesVild]

looks better than leites'... and camozzi trains in colorado

Leites seems to get tired after round one.. Statistically Camozzi looks better too

Leites also has two losses in a row post usada, but that is against top competition.

I'm looking at Yair, Cub and Camozzi, pretty confident on Cub and Yair, Comozzi I am 50/50 but I could see him taking a decision.

 

[Rebel_LioN]

Bermudez laid the blue print to this fight against kawa. Relentless pressure against someone who tires. Lots of clinching on the fence and takedowns against the cage to nullify jasons effectiveness off his back. I love bermudez unan and hit bermudez r3 bearing in mind we are at atitude.

Kawajiri isn't Jason they don't fight the same. Odds are out and I'm on Jason no scorecards and submission with my initial Bermudez decision bet.

 

[MMAJay]

Bermudez laid the blue print to this fight against kawa. Relentless pressure against someone who tires. Lots of clinching on the fence and takedowns against the cage to nullify jasons effectiveness off his back. I love bermudez unan and hit bermudez r3 bearing in mind we are at atitude.

Where did you get his Unan DEC line?

 

[Joseph Budden]

Rony Jason no sc at +110 is definitely playable.

@robbiedawg Camozzi decision up to +210. No 5u bet still?

Ponz KO +180 blahhhh go up to +200 please

Smh @ Steele dec +277. Cmon gimme like +400 wtf is this

 

[Sham5916910]

Kawajiri isn't Jason they don't fight the same. Odds are out and I'm on Jason no scorecards and submission with my initial Bermudez decision bet.

No they dont but jason is not as physically strong as kawa and has crap tdd. If bermudez can bully kawa he can bully jason. Yes jason is more dangerous from bottom but thats why its important bermudez gets his td's against the fence like he did with kawa.

 

[Sham5916910]

Where did you get his Unan DEC line?

Ladbrokes

 

[Rebel_LioN]

No they dont but jason is not as physically strong as kawa and has crap tdd. If bermudez can bully kawa he can bully jason. Yes jason is more dangerous from bottom but thats why its important bermudez gets his td's against the fence like he did with kawa.

I don't see strength having anything to do with this one. Jason is a slicker ground guy than Kawa who is all force which got trumped by the younger and stronger wrestler.

And yes I agree if Bermudez gets his TDs along the fence with as little space as he could to allow Rony to throw something up. But again Rony has different timing. It's a style clash IMO. What if Rony rocks Bermudez, then he panic wrestles into a fly trap.

Bermudez has his ability to feint level changes against guys like Kawa who's gotta defend the TD. Kawa fell for that move against Guida who come over the top with an overhand instead of the shot. If Bermudez picks the overhand option I'm pretty sure Rony goes trigger happy with knees.

It's not a safe bet for Bermudez at all if you're going to pay his juice.

 

[Joseph Budden]

For what its worth I definitely think Jason is a worse fight than Kawajiri for Berm. I legitimately saw no paths to victory for Kawa. I brought this up awhile ago in here, but its feasible Jason catches Berm on the feet with some crazy shit, or snatches a sub off his back.

On Berm and think he wins, especially if this goes past one round, but can't overlook the threats Jason brings

 

[iGnP]

For what its worth I definitely think Jason is a worse fight than Kawajiri for Berm. I legitimately so no paths to victory for Kawa. I brought this up awhile ago in here, but its feasible Jason catches Berm on the feet with some crazy shit, or snatches a sub off his back.

On Berm and think he wins, especially if this goes past one round, but can't overlook the threats Jason brings

Yea I think someone earlier brought up the fact that Jason wins in improbable fashion. Against a pretty solid fighter, it seems like a mistake to bet on someone who wins the way Jason does. I think I'm gonna play Bermudez straight and hedge like Rebel did, but I'm a lot more confident in Bermudez than he seems to be

 

[Ukram]

Rony jason is also a decent black belt bjj, black belt kickboxing also he hit a lovely triangle sub in r1 in his last fight and some neat scrambling ability also, but yeah not too happy with the bermudez wrestler by default and rony jason favourite move being his knees, that guy throws them knees everywhere also in clinches, against the cage or when he has space.

I also feel bermudez will probably get the better of r1 and r2 with heavy punches and take downs his cardio may not be as good so fancy playing a rony r3 finish just in case, shame no flying knee rony props

I watched camozzi last few fights and yeah nothing amazing performance wise I mean the guy ran out of steam in r3 against miranda I felt making the fight much closer, but camozzi did get the better of him r1 and def r2 and his reach and jab really helped. I can understand people liking leites he is a tough and gritty guy, good chin and black belt bjj but likes his striking lately, power over cams long jab ? Still liking the overs, decision play on camozzi.

 

[Sham5916910]

I don't see strength having anything to do with this one. Jason is a slicker ground guy than Kawa who is all force which got trumped by the younger and stronger wrestler.

And yes I agree if Bermudez gets his TDs along the fence with as little space as he could to allow Rony to throw something up. But again Rony has different timing. It's a style clash IMO. What if Rony rocks Bermudez, then he panic wrestles into a fly trap.

Bermudez has his ability to feint level changes against guys like Kawa who's gotta defend the TD. Kawa fell for that move against Guida who come over the top with an overhand instead of the shot. If Bermudez picks the overhand option I'm pretty sure Rony goes trigger happy with knees.

It's not a safe bet for Bermudez at all if you're going to pay his juice.

Yep i made a bd earlier in the thread where i said Jason could land a low % move such as a flying knee. But as the type of strikes he throw are pretty low % im happy commiting my cash to the person with better standup fundamentals. Not to mention flying knees and spinning elbow attacks invite takedowns albeit id prefer bermudez to secure his td's against the cage.

Bermudez didnt take kawa down with feints to hit his shot most if not all were td's from the clinch against the cage and thats exactly what i expect bermdez to do here. He doesnt want to be on top in the middle of the cage where jason will be able to utilise his hips fully bermudez needs to have him trapped against the cage to nullify all this.

Bermudez is not a lock if such a thing exists but im very confident his relentless pressure grinds and gasses jason out for a dominant win. Jason first fight out of brazil and at elevation both red flags.

 

[Sham5916910]

For what its worth I definitely think Jason is a worse fight than Kawajiri for Berm. I legitimately saw no paths to victory for Kawa. I brought this up awhile ago in here, but its feasible Jason catches Berm on the feet with some crazy shit, or snatches a sub off his back.

On Berm and think he wins, especially if this goes past one round, but can't overlook the threats Jason brings

I agree im just saying berm can win this fight the same way he beat kawa

 

[Joseph Budden]

I agree im just saying berm can win this fight the same way he beat kawa

He should. Part of me kind of just wants him to stay on the outside though and use leg kicks and his efficient but basic boxing. Rony Jason is hittable, and he really likes to get in tight to work his power punches and crazy spinning elbow shit

 

[Agent Mulder]

He should. Part of me kind of just wants him to stay on the outside though and use leg kicks and his efficient but basic boxing. Rony Jason is hittable, and he really likes to get in tight to work his power punches and crazy spinning elbow shit

I think Rony Jason has a big reach advantage has he not?

 

[Joseph Budden]

I think Rony Jason has a big reach advantage has he not?

If i'm not mistaken you're right. But, and I could be wrong here didn't get to watch much of Jason this week, he doesn't know how to use it. He prefers tighter space cause he loves throwing elbows and power punches rather than jabbing and keeping the opponent at the end of punches. Also hoping Berm's superior athleticism opposed to Jason's flat footedness negates that reach a bit as well.

 

[Agent Mulder]

If i'm not mistaken you're right. But, and I could be wrong here didn't get to watch much of Jason this week, he doesn't know how to use it. He prefers tighter space cause he loves throwing elbows and power punches rather than jabbing and keeping the opponent at the end of punches. Also hoping Berm's superior athleticism opposed to Jason's flat footedness negates that reach a bit as well.

Just checked, according to ufc.com Bermudez has 66 inches. Jason didn't have a profile on ufc.com but according to wiki he has 73 inches, quite the difference. But yeah... I dont remember Rony Jason using his reach to great effect anyways.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Just checked, according to ufc.com Bermudez has 66 inches. Jason didn't have a profile on ufc.com but according to wiki he has 73 inches, quite the difference. But yeah... I dont remember Rony Jason using his reach to great effect anyways.

Yeah pretty sure Bookie Beatdown made the same point about reach you made so safe to say that is the case

 

[Sham5916910]

Bermudez always gives up reach and jason has no where near the ability needed to take advantage of it.

 

[Agent Mulder]

I had to play Caceres dec 0.25u @ +900. I know it's a 5 rounder but that's crazy far from his ML.

 

[EzFlyer]

man, how is the ponz line still improving? adding more at -140. he's so much more explosive than cummings.. cummings is plodding..