UFN 92 - Caceres vs Rodriguez - Utah

[MMAJay]

@robbiedawg What's your opinion on the O2.5 in the girl fight? -110.

Play it before it drops. I will.

 

[Oblivian]

Camozzi has never stayed on the outside and used a jab, he's honestly just a brawler for the most part. If he wants to try and fight technical like Mousasi and use a jab against a superior technical striker he has no chance.

About Nova Uniao, I don't know to be honest. Aldo looked better than ever against Edgar. It's a tough one.

It's amazing how much of a 180 you are doing on your perception of Camozzi/Leites. Are you going to join the dark side on Leites?

 

[CR0W]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I haven't read through the whole thread yet...

Sherdog and Tapology don't seem to list Chase Sherman's loss to Jason Ostrowski? Just watched the fight on YouTube there but nowhere seems to list it, anyone know why?

Neither guy looks impressive to me, Ledet has probably has the more polished stand up, the pro boxing experience helping, not that he looked that good or fought anyone of note.

From what I've seen; Sherman has an active jab, likes to work behind it, uses leg kicks quite a bit but isn't great at setting them up and is sometimes just firing out naked leg kicks which can leave him white open to being countered. He managed to drop Ostrowski pretty hard but lost top position and was ultimately choked out but a poor quality opponent.

Ledet has 4 submissions to his name, he's no wizard on the mat but he looks like he's beyond Sherman's skill level and can work off his back well for a big guy.

Will definitely be looking at Ledet, probably by sub.

 

[robbiedawg]

Yeah like moroz still, picked her in my b/d just don't trust unknowns like taylor the potential is there or its not especially in the ufc, guess that is the fun we shall have at 3am on Sunday morning lol

Taylor sucks. I'm not worried about her at all

 

[robbiedawg]

It's amazing how much of a 180 you are doing on your perception of Camozzi/Leites. Are you going to join the dark side on Leites?

I said I didn't watch tape and now I have. The line is priced correctly so no

 

[robbiedawg]

@robbiedawg What's your opinion on the O2.5 in the girl fight? -110.

Pretty risky to be honest. I can see Taylor getting subbed

 

[Bork Lazer]

My premnition for how Camozzi/Leites will look.

Round 1: Both guys come out firing punches and leg kicks until Leites gets Camozzi up against the fence in the clinch. The both trade knees and Leites has the dominant position for the majority of time and get Camozzi down with 30 seconds left and Camozzi survives. Leites 10-9

Round 2: Leites gets Camozzi down 30 seconds into the round, throws some sub attempts but nothing comes close to finishing him. At the 2:00 minute mark Camozzi gets back up and now Leites is gassed pretty hard. Camozzi starts landing jabs and leg kicks and dominates the rest of the round but never hurts Leites.

Round 3: Leites is exhausted to start the round but shoots for the takedown and can't get it. Camozzi takes over, as he is the much fresher fighter, and spends the next 4 mins 30 seconds controlling the octagon landing jabs, low kicks and maybe some knees in the clinch but again never hurts Leites very bad. Clear 10-9 Camozzi.

The decision will come down to the second round and it will be a split decision for whomever I didn't bet on.

 

[Kowboy Karl]

Word. Never hedged in my life, I don't get it.

It's for pussies say in nfl

You win 2 of a 3 man parlay why hedge the 3rd?

But in Mma say you've got 5 teamers and then the main event. If the main event is like +400 and you've got the favorite

I do a lot of 50-300 bet size parlays like this usually for payouts of 1000 or more

I get 4 right...

Why not hedge 20-50 bucks to lock in a win or at min get yor money back.

Sometimes you can just see when the card is live that a dog in the main event scares you , lesnar being the most recent one and to a degree woodley.

I used to be more hedge happy but I've def started doing less

 

[robbiedawg]

It's for pussies say in nfl

You win 2 of a 3 man parlay why hedge the 3rd?

But in Mma say you've got 5 teamers and then the main event. If the main event is like +400 and you've got the favorite

I do a lot of 50-300 bet size parlays like this usually for payouts of 1000 or more

I get 4 right...

Why not hedge 20-50 bucks to lock in a win or at min get yor money back.

Sometimes you can just see when the card is live that a dog in the main event scares you , lesnar being the most recent one and to a degree woodley.

I used to be more hedge happy but I've def started doing less

Or just only bet what you're confident on

 

[Kowboy Karl]

Or just only bet what you're confident on

I mean 5-8 leg parlays are "Hail Mary"

So again when you've got 50-1500 and you can get your money back or win for an extra 50 why not?

1450 or 200 is better then -50

 

[Sham5916910]

I mean 5-8 leg parlays are "Hail Mary"

So again when you've got 50-1500 and you can get your money back or win for an extra 50 why not?

1450 or 200 is better then -50

I see what you're saying but horses for courses as the saying goes. No right or wrong answer.

 

[Ukram]

For so long, I thought it was Dave Chappelle from an older Chappelle Show skit.

Was going to say the exact same thing that gif is hilarious

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I haven't read through the whole thread yet...

Sherdog and Tapology don't seem to list Chase Sherman's loss to Jason Ostrowski? Just watched the fight on YouTube there but nowhere seems to list it, anyone know why?

Neither guy looks impressive to me, Ledet has probably has the more polished stand up, the pro boxing experience helping, not that he looked that good or fought anyone of note.

From what I've seen; Sherman has an active jab, likes to work behind it, uses leg kicks quite a bit but isn't great at setting them up and is sometimes just firing out naked leg kicks which can leave him white open to being countered. He managed to drop Ostrowski pretty hard but lost top position and was ultimately choked out but a poor quality opponent.

Ledet has 4 submissions to his name, he's no wizard on the mat but he looks like he's beyond Sherman's skill level and can work off his back well for a big guy.

Will definitely be looking at Ledet, probably by sub.

PR said it few pages back, he was an amateur at the time so not pro, did watch both guys and yeah really not any strong leans I mentioned my thoughts pretty early on the thread just like yourself do like shermans leg kicks, Ledet has that pro boxing and has shown some nice hands and boxing at times but other times terrible also. I think ledet may have slightly better cardio due to his style he did does I believe come from a submission grappling style camp also gone to r3 at least, I still like sherman r1 finish (all r1 finishes his whole career just 1 ko loss) or ledet survives and takes over.

Just glad its the early prelim fight

 

[CR0W]

Was going to say the exact same thing that gif is hilarious



PR said it few pages back, he was an amateur at the time so not pro, did watch both guys and yeah really not any strong leans I mentioned my thoughts pretty early on the thread just like yourself do like shermans leg kicks, Ledet has that pro boxing and has shown some nice hands and boxing at times but other times terrible also. I think ledet may have slightly better cardio due to his style he did does I believe come from a submission grappling style camp also gone to r3 at least, I still like sherman r1 finish (all r1 finishes his whole career just 1 ko loss) or ledet survives and takes over.

Just glad its the early prelim fight

Ah I see, cheers for clearing that up. Thought it may be the case but couldn't see it listed as an amateur fight anywhere either.

 

[Agent Mulder]

My premnition for how Camozzi/Leites will look.

Round 1: Both guys come out firing punches and leg kicks until Leites gets Camozzi up against the fence in the clinch. The both trade knees and Leites has the dominant position for the majority of time and get Camozzi down with 30 seconds left and Camozzi survives. Leites 10-9

Round 2: Leites gets Camozzi down 30 seconds into the round, throws some sub attempts but nothing comes close to finishing him. At the 2:00 minute mark Camozzi gets back up and now Leites is gassed pretty hard. Camozzi starts landing jabs and leg kicks and dominates the rest of the round but never hurts Leites.

Round 3: Leites is exhausted to start the round but shoots for the takedown and can't get it. Camozzi takes over, as he is the much fresher fighter, and spends the next 4 mins 30 seconds controlling the octagon landing jabs, low kicks and maybe some knees in the clinch but again never hurts Leites very bad. Clear 10-9 Camozzi.

The decision will come down to the second round and it will be a split decision for whomever I didn't bet on.

Legit lol'd at "split decision for whomever i didnt bet on". I know dem feels!

 

[Bork Lazer]

One point people seem to missing on the Ledet/Sherman fight. Sherman is trained by Alan Belcher so he will be coming in with the residual power that "the MMA tattoo" will give him.

 

[EzFlyer]

One point people seem to missing on the Ledet/Sherman fight. Sherman is trained by Alan Belcher so he will be coming in with the residual power that "the MMA tattoo" will give him.

shit, don't mention alan belcher, please. brings back painful memories

 

[weedreference]

Camozzi has never stayed on the outside and used a jab, he's honestly just a brawler for the most part. If he wants to try and fight technical like Mousasi and use a jab against a superior technical striker he has no chance.

About Nova Uniao, I don't know to be honest. Aldo looked better than ever against Edgar. It's a tough one.

I strongly disagree... Camozzi is a technical boxer. Did you see his fight against Watson? It was one of the most effective uses of the jab in an opposite stance matchup I've ever seen in MMA.

 

[robbiedawg]

I strongly disagree... Camozzi is a technical boxer. Did you see his fight against Watson? It was one of the most effective uses of the jab in an opposite stance matchup I've ever seen in MMA.

Okay that is ridiculous

 

[piglord]

i actually don't think the jab is going to be the factor, i think camozzi's leg kicks will take away leites' movement - hopefully sooner rather than later.

 

[weedreference]

Okay that is ridiculous

I suggest watching the Watson fight rather than writing me off. If you don't have access to it watch the one piglord posted. I don't think what he displayed there would meet many people's definition of a brawler.