UFC 251: Usman vs. Masvidal (7/11)

Richard Cruz said:
Procopio and Melo are fairly similar on the feet. Slow plotting and unathletic. Rosa should be able to pick her apart standing.
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Procopio very nearly beat Rosa man

I don't think Melo is on the same level as her at all, but I wouldn't say being a similar fighter to one who almost won when you're at 2.87 is inherently a bad thing
 
TrueAscension said:
Problem with Masvidal obviously is no camp, probably no gas tank, no fighter preparation, jet lag, etc

If he wins this fight it should be up there with some of the great upsets of all time. Count me in.
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Heart is with Mas here. He finished Till and Askren so he certainly has that explosiveness to get it done early.

I like Mas chances early as the fight wears on I think Usman takes over if he is still around.
 
Kamais_Ookin said:
Ah ok, well +200 is still good for a big favorite. Only thing I can think of is Masvidal being 1 week notice and Usman pushes an unlimited cardio grind pace so there could be a sweat in the 4th/5th rounds. But like I can't ever see Usman submitting Masvidal, so it would have to be some sort of ground and pound finish forcing ref to stop it as I don't see him being the type to go out cold, not to Usman anyways.
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Usman 4, 5 or Dec is +125. I'll have a couple units on this I think
 
The props for the Usman/Masvidal bout haven't come out just yet, but when they do lock your money in on takedowns/takedown attempts by Usman quickly because that line is going to go up quickly.

During Usmans fight with Covington he was outstruck during three of the first four rounds before the fifth round stoppage. Unsuprisingly this resulted in Usman being down 39-37 on one of the judges scorecards, up 39-37 on another, and tied 38-38 headed into the final round. Usman very easily could have been down 39-37 on two judges scorecards so this is a scenario he is almost certainly going to try to prevent. To be clear, this has been a huge hole in Masvidals game as well, and he has repeatedly lost close fights due to being marginally outstruck.

Usman switched camps and was trained by Trevor Wittman (Justin Gaethjes coach) who favors a striking heavy approach, so the inclination is to think he will stand and trade, but more than likely he is going to repeatedly shoot and secure a takedown on Masvidal at the start of rounds before trading to ensure he is awarded any close rounds.

Usman is a smart fighter and wont even bother going to the ground if he respects his opponents grappling or wrestling, but when he is fighting an uncredentialed wrestler/grappler he always pounces and repeatedly goes for the takedown; even if he isnt actually going for the submission.
 
TrueAscension said:
Problem with Masvidal obviously is no camp, probably no gas tank, no fighter preparation, jet lag, etc

If he wins this fight it should be up there with some of the great upsets of all time. Count me in.
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I don't entirely believe hes out of shape. There's no way in hell he'd even make weight on 6 days notice.
 
SolarSeiko said:
I don't entirely believe hes out of shape. There's no way in hell he'd even make weight on 6 days notice.
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UFC welterweight contender Jorge Masvidal has been training recently, so he should be in shape in case he fights Kamaru Usman on short notice at UFC 251.

Training with the likes of standout wrestler Bo Nickal and UFC lightweight superstar Dustin Poirier should help Masvidal be prepared just in case he steps in on short notice against Usman, which it looks like he will be. Although he may not have put in a full training camp for this fight, at least he’ll be in shape and ready to go.
 
Thoughts on Jessica Andrade vs Namajunas?
It looks like a rematch from the last year. Not sure if Andrade has recovered yet.
 
The Eagle said:
UFC welterweight contender Jorge Masvidal has been training recently, so he should be in shape in case he fights Kamaru Usman on short notice at UFC 251.

Training with the likes of standout wrestler Bo Nickal and UFC lightweight superstar Dustin Poirier should help Masvidal be prepared just in case he steps in on short notice against Usman, which it looks like he will be. Although he may not have put in a full training camp for this fight, at least he’ll be in shape and ready to go.
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Damn he's been training with Bo? That's huge
 
Can somebody tell me which bookies I can use in mainland China except bet365
 
burge13 said:
Not sure why Usman by KO is more favoured than Decision. 2 finishes in 4 years, one over Moraes and then a very late stoppage R5 over Colby

I might just play goes the distance at +145, or Usman Decision +300
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if my book has usman DEC +300 imma act up
 
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Marc Raimondi, and Brett Okamoto are awful......I firmly believe Burns Usman would have been the better more competitive fight. They whole heartedly disagree and believe Masvidal is only a underdog due to current circumstances lmao
 
Tirimasuperman said:
Why is jet lag an issue for Masvidal and not Usman? Both of them just flew to Vegas lmfao

And the UFC negotiated with Masvidal before giving the fight to Burns. You really think Masvidal hasn't done specific preparation for Usman?
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Yeah lmfaoooo it totally is an issue for both fighters lmfaoooo
 
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