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I agree with that. I'm not pinning this on any large group. But my biggest pet peeve with politics is how the vast majority of information these days is presented in a biased manner and even worse the awful and usually hypocritical logic that is used to analyze the information by people.
To be fair to everyone, it's tough to avoid. Anybody can wind up being swayed one way or the other just by the sheer volume of propaganda online.

Not solely. Stop running interference for your team.
Case in point. Also, you don't know what "team" I'm on.

What about the video have you that impression?
I didn't find him believable. Why are you harping on this?
 
I was wondering if you had good reason for thinking he wasn't honest beyond a gut feeling. I guess not.
I already said I could be wrong and it was just the impression I got. I watched the interview once. Why in the world are you obsessing over an opinion I have that I'm open to changing based on more info?
 
I already said I could be wrong and it was just the impression I got. I watched the interview once. Why in the world are you obsessing over an opinion I have that I'm open to changing based on more info?
I'm not obsessing, I just asked you a few questions and I don't think I was impolite in doing so. Why get so ornery over a few straightforward questions?
 
To be fair to everyone, it's tough to avoid. Anybody can wind up being swayed one way or the other just by the sheer volume of propaganda online.


Case in point. Also, you don't know what "team" I'm on.


I didn't find him believable. Why are you harping on this?
I think it is very easy to avoid, but people don't want to. People love being told what they want to hear and people are so high and mighty about their ideologies that they assume if the information tells them what they want to hear the source must be legit and the info is honest. I think information is so biased simply because that is what people want and that is what sells and generates clicks. If there was a market for objectivity we would see more objective news. But there is no money there. This to me is a people problem.
 
I'm not obsessing, I just asked you a few questions and I don't think I was impolite in doing so. Why get so ornery over a few straightforward questions?
Because you are a polite grinder. You do not let an issue go until it is hashed out. You have more patience than I do.
 
Something just isn't adding up about this guy to me. He seems all over the place. People say he supported trump and was conservative, but then has a bunch of "no kings" protest flyers in the car, while simultaneously being appointed to a board by Tim Walz and his wife worked for Walz. Could just be that the guy is a lunatic. I think we need more info before we can say what his motivations were.
 
Something just isn't adding up about this guy to me. He seems all over the place. People say he supported trump and was conservative, but then has a bunch of "no kings" protest flyers in the car, while simultaneously being appointed to a board by Tim Walz and his wife worked for Walz. Could just be that the guy is a lunatic. I think we need more info before we can say what his motivations were.
More deflection from a piss belt.
 
Something just isn't adding up about this guy to me. He seems all over the place. People say he supported trump and was conservative, but then has a bunch of "no kings" protest flyers in the car, while simultaneously being appointed to a board by Tim Walz and his wife worked for Walz. Could just be that the guy is a lunatic. I think we need more info before we can say what his motivations were.
He wasn't all over the place. At one time he might have been associated with Walz, but all evidence indicates that he switched parties, becoming one of those Americans MAGA types like yourself so gleefully claimed as "fleeing" the libs, and was staunchly a pro-Trump Republican.

The fliers in his car don't mean anything sitting there inertly. Maybe that was a stack that organizers left at his church, or somewhere else, and it set him off. He raged by picking them up so that nobody would see them.

Really, I can't stand this. I couldn't stand it when the leftists did it with the Trump assassins. "Well, we really don't know." LOL, STFU, we know. They were headcases trying to kill Trump out of some left-wing sympathy. This guy was trying to kill two Democratic lawmakers out of his right-wing sympathies.

It's reprehensible, there's no value in partisan flag-waving because there are loonies on both sides, but this guy was a right-wing loony. It's just a basic truth. I can't stand it when people bend over backwards to deny the obvious.
 
I think if you ever needed definitive proof we live in an unreality created by right wing misinformation it's this news story. A clear anti choice, anti lgbtq activist who is a Trump supporter targets multiple Democrats and murders them. The reaction is that he was a leftist. It's just impossible to really navigate a path forward when there is this level of delusion and ignorance combined with woeful media literacy and an ecosystem that pumps out right wing conspiracies for fun. Go look at the comments on fox news and ny post stories about this guy. This country is absolutely cooked and I am still stunned Trump didn't win by more given the state of the electorate.
 
i mean these are things that have historical precedence. you realize an entire war was fought over that in this country right? regardless, if you think it's nothing more than a paranoid delusion of an example, then it sounds like i don't approve of political violence very much, does it?

do you not approve of the actions of abolitionist john brown? should he have tried to talk plantation owners into releasing their slaves instead?
Every right we have is thanks to the fact that someone, at some point, was willing to throw a brick (or a petrol bomb, or a crate full of tea leaves). Violence should always be a last resort, obviously, but this notion that political violence is categorically wrong is a ahistorical nonsense. Also, it's incredibly telling that the sort of people who say shit like that tend to be completely OK with violence by the state.
 
Every right we have is thanks to the fact that someone, at some point, was willing to throw a brick (or a petrol bomb, or a crate full of tea leaves). Violence should always be a last resort, obviously, but this notion that political violence is categorically wrong is a ahistorical nonsense. Also, it's incredibly telling that the sort of people who say shit like that tend to be completely OK with violence by the state.
bingo.
 
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