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Trump-Ukraine Megathread V8

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I am sure this has been posted already but it needs to be highlighted to answer the retarded Trumpster position that 'it looks swampy so why it needs to be investigated'.

The State Departments under both Tillerson and Pompeo and 3 years later.

My post is not about defending Hilary. I cannot stand her. But imagine she runs again (god please no) and Trump again says "i am having my gov't launch a new investigation into Hillary's emails because it looks stinky to me.'

Dumb Trumpsters would say 'yes it needs investigating', but the goal of the investigation is not to get a verdict that indicts her (that would be the bonus), ...the goal is simply to damage her campaign by clouding it with the allegation of wrong doing and hoping that hurts their election chances.

This is the exact same tactic being used for 'What about Biden'. How many times does the same issue need to be investigated? How many times is it fair to bring it back up. Yes we all know it looks swampy, so does that mean it can be brought up forever even if each investigation finds nothing.

You have to be stupid to accept that, or hopelessly partisan. Trump understands how the investigations hurt Hillary and he understand how it would hurt Biden. That is all he cares about. An actual finding of wrong doing would be a bonus but really that is not the point.


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State Dept. Inquiry Into Clinton Emails Finds No Deliberate Mishandling of Classified Information

The report appears to bookend a controversy that dogged Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.



A yearslong State Department investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server found that while the use of the system for official business increased the risk of compromising classified information, there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information.

The inquiry, started more than three years ago...

...The report was released this week by Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, who began investigating Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server in 2017, when he served as the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
 
I am sure this has been posted already but it needs to be highlighted to answer the retarded Trumpster position that 'it looks swampy so why it needs to be investigated'.

The State Departments under both Tillerson and Pompeo and 3 years later.

My post is not about defending Hilary. I cannot stand her. But imagine she runs again (god please no) and Trump again says "i am having my gov't launch a new investigation into Hillary's emails because it looks stinky to me.'

Dumb Trumpsters would say 'yes it needs investigating', but the goal of the investigation is not to get a verdict that indicts her (that would be the bonus), ...the goal is simply to damage her campaign by clouding it with the allegation of wrong doing and hoping that hurts their election chances.

This is the exact same tactic being used for 'What about Biden'. How many times does the same issue need to be investigated? How many times is it fair to bring it back up. Yes we all know it looks swampy, so does that mean it can be brought up forever even if each investigation finds nothing.

You have to be stupid to accept that, or hopelessly partisan. Trump understands how the investigations hurt Hillary and he understand how it would hurt Biden. That is all he cares about. An actual finding of wrong doing would be a bonus but really that is not the point.


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State Dept. Inquiry Into Clinton Emails Finds No Deliberate Mishandling of Classified Information

The report appears to bookend a controversy that dogged Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.



A yearslong State Department investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server found that while the use of the system for official business increased the risk of compromising classified information, there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information.

The inquiry, started more than three years ago...

...The report was released this week by Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, who began investigating Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server in 2017, when he served as the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

but her emailz is imbedded into the right wingers brains even though Trumps DOJ are the ones saying she did nothing wrong.
 
but her emailz is imbedded into the right wingers brains even though Trumps DOJ are the ones saying she did nothing wrong.
Was it one of those Mueller things where there were clear shenanigans but no charges could be brought?
 
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Stop using rearnakedchoke's avatar to make your invalid point.

Unless you're stating that you love the D.......
 
Sen. (lol) Lindsey (that's a girl's name) Graham agreed that the impeachment inquiry is like a lynching.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with these people
 
I’d take the Rock over Trump any day. I’d love to see him next to Putin.

It doesn't matter what you....oh wait.

Just saying that things are a lot more interesting right now as opposed to how they were with Past Presidents.

To me, the only thing interesting about Obama was the novelty of him becoming the first African-American President. Once that novelty wore off, I saw that he wasn't the "savior" of the black people that some out there claimed. He was just another Politician that played the game. *yawn*

So I'm voting to keep this train ride moving for another 4 years.

'Cause with Trump, things are certainly not dull. <CerseiPlotting>
 
It doesn't matter what you....oh wait.

Just saying that things are a lot more interesting right now as opposed to how they were with Past Presidents.

To me, the only thing interesting about Obama was the novelty of him becoming the first African-American President. Once that novelty wore off, I saw that he wasn't the "savior" of the black people that some out there claimed. He was just another Politician that played the game. *yawn*

So I'm voting to keep this train ride moving for another 4 years.

'Cause with Trump, things are certainly not dull. <CerseiPlotting>
And still!
Endlessly entertaining.
<Goldie11>
 
The Rock is just as qualified as Trump. Why not, I'm just giving up.

Funny thing is...You're right.

There's not much in the way of qualifications for being President.

That is one thing that has always bugged me.

And is the one thing that, at the same time, enabled Trump to even run for office, let alone become POTUS.

I always believed that the qualifications for POTUS should include having past experience in Government, have been a Senator, and so forth.
 
But she clearly stored info on a private server she wasn't supposed to, yah?

Yeah but the FBI determined it wasn't done maliciously or with specific intent, and most of the offending emails were classified after the fact.
 
Funny thing is...You're right.

There's not much in the way of qualifications for being President.

That is one thing that has always bugged me.

And is the one thing that, at the same time, enabled Trump to even run for office, let alone become POTUS.

I always believed that the qualifications for POTUS should include having past experience in Government, have been a Senator, and so forth.
Agreed.
I think the most important element in any Presidency is that he (or she or zer or whatever) surrounds himself (or herself or whatever) with experts of long standing in their fields.






And listens to them.

I loved Reagan but he let a psychic take part in the process, that wasn't very cool
 
Agreed.
I think the most important element in any Presidency is that he (or she or zer or whatever) surrounds himself (or herself or whatever) with experts of long standing in their fields.






And listens to them.

I loved Reagan but he let a psychic take part in the process, that wasn't very cool

Trump cannot match Reagan in weirdness, in that regard. <{outtahere}>

I'm actually surprised he didn't say "Hmm....Reagan used a psychic and he ended up serving two terms. Maybe that will work for me" yet. <{Heymansnicker}>
 
Agreed.
I think the most important element in any Presidency is that he (or she or zer or whatever) surrounds himself (or herself or whatever) with experts of long standing in their fields.






And listens to them.

I loved Reagan but he let a psychic take part in the process, that wasn't very cool

he knew you were going to say that
 
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