Elections Trump should continue as president after 2028

[joy2day]

This is a "no-gotcha" thread- I sincerely want to hear how people feel about this for my own edification and am not going to jump in with finger pointing.

In Russia (and other places in the world) there is this amazing phenomenon where a despot leader is popular with citizens. This may be not as true now, but Putin has killed journalists and anyone else who spoke out against him for a very long time now and had high approval ratings through much of it (over 80% at one time). I was baffled by this, and at one time thought it could never happen in America.

But I think America has taken a similar turn- I think if Trump finds a way to stay in power that is against the rules of our democracy, most MAGA people would be OK with that. They might say, "Well, Biden stole an election, so Trump can too," or something similar. I had previously thought that if Trump did something illegal to stay in power (like fake electors in 2028), that America wouldn't stand for it, but I think we have shifted to being more like Russia; I think a lot of people would be OK with this, and Trump could push it as far as he wants.

So what do you guys who support Trump think- are you OK with him taking over America like Putin did in Russia? Would you rather keep Trump in against the rules and risk the possible consequences of going against our rules/laws/Constitution; is it better to break the rules and keep Trump than to risk another "snowflake president" being elected? How would you rationalize making Trump the permanent president?

I genuinely would like to hear from people on this.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Hell yea!

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

So he should be president until he dies like the pope?

 

[revoltub]

No but it doesn't matter. Trump changed the game, and his presence will be felt way after he is gone. I can't see the US having a democrat president for a long time unless they find someone similar who has some Trump in them and just so happens to be a Dem.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

No, there should be an election and Trump term should end due to having 2.

 

[HOLA]

This would make liberals outraged, so MAGA would support it. It’s that simple.

They might cringe at it at first, like with Jan 6th, but right wing media would find a way to justify it, just like with Jan 6th.

Trump has shown a remarkable ability to operate above the law and has an army of sycophants, so his chances of achieving this are not zero.

Fortunately he’s almost 80 and doesn’t take care of himself. Father Time is undefeated. One day we’ll be reading his obituary with pleasure.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

I feel like its more likely one of his sons will run in 2028 and get elected and just continue his agenda.

 

[joy2day]

This would make liberals outraged, so MAGA would support it. It’s that simple.

But are the possible consequences to our democracy worth the risk just to piss off people you don't like? Or do you believe Trump would never do anything bad so it's safe to add him as permanent president? Genuinely curious.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

What are the chances his fat ass is even alive in 2028 and beyond?

 

[joy2day]

No but it doesn't matter. Trump changed the game, and his presence will be felt way after he is gone. I can't see the US having a democrat president for a long time unless they find someone similar who has some Trump in them and just so happens to be a Dem.

So your belief is that it won't swing back like it always has in the midterm election? You think the US will be MAGA forever, with no one else winning elections? Or are you saying it would have to be a populist regardless of which party it came from?

 

[b-hop]

Ideally yes, but we've good sucessors in line. Even Barron will be one a phenomenal president!

 

[HOLA]

But are the possible consequences to our democracy worth the risk just to piss off people you don't like?

There are Americans that would legit burn down their own house if a liberal had to choke on the fumes. That’s how effective right wing media is.

Or do you believe Trump would never do anything bad so it's safe to add him as permanent president? Genuinely curious.

The convicted felon and rapist who stole from kids with cancer? Do you really need to ask this question?

 

[Kingz]

Well, that’s an interesting question. I’ve always believed most people regardless of political lean would be fine with an end to credible democracy and a one party government IF they felt their personal and political values were consistently reflected in that governments actions.

I have no doubt many many democrats would forever deny conservatives power if they felt they could. They would of course call it protecting democracy because when they are on the L end…It’s always “we’re losing our democracy”. OK. So what if you couldn’t lose?

So on the right, I have no doubts many would be more than happy if Trump and the MAGA movement was entrenched for the next generation.

I personally don’t support Trump beyond 28 and certainly no one party country as my mileage does vary on a lot of stuff.

and more so while I think Trump and MAGA are right for this exact moment and era. It might not be what I want or what this country needs 10-15 years from now economically, socially, and internationally,

But if I thought the movement was adaptable economically and socially over decades and the figureheads were a lot younger…admittedly I wouldn’t cry if I knew we wouldn’t have a President that would throw open the borders, make it rain money all around the globe, and start wars that have zero real objective.

As it is now, I don’t see that with the MAGA movement beyond this current age of globalism, mass movement of people, pointless conflicts, and of course woke bullshit.

Trump should pass the torch and not wait until 2027 or 2028 to start hyping up his successor to endorse in the Republican primaries,

Last week, I wasn’t happy that he said he didn’t yet view Vance as his successor. I thought that was sort of an odd answer.

That was the first time I did kinda sorta get the vibe that he might actually view a third term as a possibility.

But it’s also true that it’s too soon to talk about 28 anyway and maybe Vance isn’t the guy yet.

 

[sickc0d3r]

America will be tired of DJ Jazzy T by then and, like always, the pendulum will swing. AOC and JD will duke it out.

However, thanks to DOGE having determined that elections are a huge waste of tax payer money, as decreed by an EO, and upheld as constitutional by 6-3 scotus vote, the potus will be decided by whomever are the current Judges on The Voice.

 

[joy2day]

Ideally yes, but we've good sucessors in line. Even Barron will be one a phenomenal president!

But what if the successors aren't popular by the time of the elections- I mean Trump only won by about

Well, that’s an interesting question. I’ve always believed most people regardless of political lean would be fine with an end to credible democracy and a one party government IF they felt their personal and political values were consistently reflected in that governments actions.

I have no doubt many many democrats would forever deny conservatives power if they felt they could. They would of course call it protecting democracy because when they are on the L end…It’s always “we’re losing our democracy”. OK. So what if you couldn’t lose?

So on the right, I have no doubts many would be more than happy if Trump and the MAGA movement was entrenched for the next generation.

I personally don’t support Trump beyond 28 and certainly no one party country as my mileage does vary on a lot of stuff.

and more so while I think Trump and MAGA are right for this exact moment and era. It might not be what I want or what this country needs 10-15 years from now economically, socially, and internationally,

But if I thought the movement was adaptable economically and socially over decades and the figureheads were a lot younger…admittedly I wouldn’t cry if I knew we wouldn’t have a President that would throw open the borders, make it rain money all around the globe, and start wars that have zero real objective.

As it is now, I don’t see that with the MAGA movement beyond this current age of globalism, mass movement of people, pointless conflicts, and of course woke bullshit.

Trump should pass the torch and not wait until 2027 or 2028 to start hyping up his successor to endorse in the Republican primaries,

Last week, I wasn’t happy that he said he didn’t yet view Vance as his successor. I thought that was sort of an odd answer.

That was the first time I did kinda sorta get the vibe that he might actually view a third term as a possibility.

But it’s also true that it’s too soon to talk about 28 anyway and maybe Vance isn’t the guy yet.

OK, but what about the idea of losing our democracy- you wouldn't fear that if we just hand power over to one group for good, that would turn into something regrettable? You think MAGA is immune to power corruption? The political system doesn't matter? What if they started doing things you DISAGREED with, but you could no longer vote them out?

 

[Mr Holmes]

Lol, no. I wonder who the TS used to be.

 

[Source]

Despite Trump continuing to piss on it we still have a constitution in this country. One of those amendments is that a president can’t serve more than 2 terms.

 

[joy2day]

Ideally yes, but we've good sucessors in line. Even Barron will be one a phenomenal president!

But what if it doesn't happen that way? Would corruption be OK if that was needed to keep Trump in power? After all, he won by far less than other presidents in the past even though there are more voters now. He might not win.

• 2008 (Obama vs. McCain): Approximately 9.55 million votes
• 2020 (Biden vs. Trump): Approximately 7.05 million votes
• 2012 (Obama vs. Romney): Approximately 4.98 million votes
• 2004 (Bush vs. Kerry): Approximately 3.01 million votes
• 2024 (Trump vs. Harris): Approximately 2.28 million votes

 

[b-hop]

But what if the successors aren't popular by the time of the elections- I mean Trump only won by about

I think the MAGA moviment is more unifying than the normal conservative model, who isnt' really friendly of the worker. They normally want lower labour regulations and mass immigration to bring down salaries and making cheaper labor.

Both things the MAGA is hardly against, so for the majority of people this movement is quite good.

 

[Rod1]

No but it doesn't matter. Trump changed the game, and his presence will be felt way after he is gone. I can't see the US having a democrat president for a long time unless they find someone similar who has some Trump in them and just so happens to be a Dem.

If Trump is still alive and MAGA is in power they will 10/10 steal the next election, they almost got people to flip back in 2020 when Republican party was still not 100% on board of the Trump train.

What's stopping them now from changing the results of an State election?