Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

CatchnShoot said:
You're like a budgie.... TDS... TDS!!!


Which post from the last cycle made you parrot that shit?
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It’s just alarming and a bit saddening to see otherwise reasonable people descend into a sort of vortex of partisan acrimony.
Raise your hand if you’re going to leave the country when he gets elected! C’mon.

I guess I’m a bit dispassionate and more concerned with the politics of California because the state pays my retirement and they are already mandating furlough for state workers due to the incredible deficit.
Fuck Washington.
 
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Yorick said:
It’s just alarming and a bit saddening to see otherwise reasonable people descend into a sort of vortex of partisan acrimony.
Raise your hand if you’re going to leave the country when he gets elected! C’mon.

I guess I’m a bit dispassionate and more concerned with the politics of California because the state pays my retirement and they are already mandating furlough for state workers due to the incredible deficit.
Fuck Washington.
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What makes criminality automatically partisan?
 
kflo said:
What makes criminality automatically partisan?
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I think you mean 'criticism of criminality'. Both sides engage in it by the way.

Objectivity is a lofty goal and one that is difficult to attain/maintain.

But even a shred of it enhances any political discussion IMO.
 
Yorick said:
I think you mean 'criticism of criminality'. Both sides engage in it by the way.

Objectivity is a lofty goal and one that is difficult to attain/maintain.

But even a shred of it enhances any political discussion IMO.
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Assessment of criminality. Or even the process of determining criminality. Many seem to deem the process to determine criminality to be inherently partisan. If pursued it’s partisan by definition and that’s bullshit.
 
Nice analysis and perhaps true but if its pursued legally and with just cause those claims can’t stand.
Hey switching gears a bit. Do you think there’s a danger or threat of retribution against his perceived enemies once Trump gets elected as has been suggested?
 
Yorick said:
Nice analysis and perhaps true but if its pursued legally and with just cause those claims can’t stand.
Hey switching gears a bit. Do you think there’s a danger or threat of retribution against his perceived enemies once Trump gets elected as has been suggested?
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He's not competent enough to do it effectively and the perceived enemies won't be the ones affected. It's the institutions and norms that Trump is torching, and that's less tangible/arguably worse.
 
Yorick said:
Nice analysis and perhaps true but if its pursued legally and with just cause those claims can’t stand.
Hey switching gears a bit. Do you think there’s a danger or threat of retribution against his perceived enemies once Trump gets elected as has been suggested?
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I am actually on the fence on this. One, there actually has to be crimes to prosecute. And 2 he may still be a bit cautious about what happens after his term. If he’s elected. He’ll for sure posture and use it as a political tool.

And note as of today I’m still likely going to vote for him. Even if I think he’s a bad person. :)
 
FIMN said:
He's not competent enough to do it effectively and the perceived enemies won't be the ones affected. It's the institutions and norms that Trump is torching, and that's less tangible/arguably worse.
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Interesting take, appreciate the response.
 
kflo said:
I am actually on the fence on this. One, there actually has to be crimes to prosecute. And 2 he may still be a bit cautious about what happens after his term. If he’s elected. He’ll for sure posture and use it as a political tool.

And note as of today I’m still likely going to vote for him. Even if I think he’s a bad person. :)
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I have to agree. His personality is horrible but his policies, if actually pursued and implemented, would I think be better than Biden 2.0 with a Kamala twist.

Thanks for your input.
 
Bwagster said:
Any government that can censor its critics has a license for atrocity.
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Couldn’t agree more. Stuff like this has a way of bringing like guys me and you together even if we don’t agree agree on everything all the time.

Trump the candidate also blacklistedreporters and entire news outlets from campaign events, referred to journalists as “scum” and “slime,” and mocked a reporter for having a disability. He vowed to sue women who reported incidents of sexual harassment and assault, along with the outlets that covered their accounts, and threatened a lawsuit against a Hispanic journalist group for calling out his bigoted remarks.

"I would never kill them but I do hate them,” he said of reporters. “And some of them are such lying, disgusting people.”

This onslaught didn’t stop once Trump assumed the presidency. From the most powerful perch on the planet, he has continued to wage attacks on the free press, further revealing his authoritarian impulses and disdain for the First Amendment.

Below we provide a running list of attacks that the president has made on the press since assuming office. We’ll keep this list updated since, unfortunately, we don’t expect them to stop.

Trump has:

  1. Praised a violent attack on a reporter by Montana Rep. Greg Gianforte.
  2. Presided over a Justice Department investigation in which years' worth of email and phone records belonging to a New York Times reporter were seized in connection with a leak investigation.
  3. Threatened to change libel laws to make it easier to sue publishers and news organizations following the release of an unflattering book.
  4. Threatened legal action against a journalist and publisher over a book that includes critical statements about him.
  5. Demanded the Washington Post firea reporter over an inaccurate tweet about the crowd size at a Trump rally, which the reporter apologized for and deleted.
  6. Urged people to sue ABC News over a retracted report, which Trump claimed caused the stock market to fall and investors to lose money.
  7. On the day that Russia enactedrestrictions on foreign news outlets, tweeted: “CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them!” He then called for a contest between CNN and other outlets, apart from Fox, to see which has “the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me).”
  8. Said it is “frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write” in a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
  9. Threatened to cancel the broadcast licenses of media companies that offer negative coverage of him.
  10. Had the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, call on ESPN to fire Jemele Hill for criticizing him.
  11. Tweeted mocking images of him wrestling a CNN reporter and his campaign hitting a CNN reporter with a train.
  12. Overseen a Justice Department review of policies for subpoenaing media organizations in an effort to crack down on both whistleblowers and journalists. As of November 2017, investigations of leaks by the department reportedly grew 800 percent under Jeff Sessions.
  13. Pledged to “fight the #FakeNews” with a Polish leader hostile to press freedom.
  14. Attacked reporters while speaking with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has fostered a climate of violence against journalists.
  15. Said that his mission to “drain the swamp” begins “with the Fake News!”
  16. Reportedly asked then-FBI Director James Comey to jail reporters who publish classified information.
  17. Tasked his former chief of staff with looking into changing the country’s libel laws.
  18. Explored the prosecution of WikiLeaks for publishing CIA and State Department materials.
  19. Labeled the “fake news” media “the enemy of the people.”
  20. Accused the media of lying about his “very nice” conversation with the Australian prime minister. Ultimately, a leaked transcript of the call showed it was Trump who was lying.
  21. Urged someone to buy the New York Times to “either run it correctly or let it fold.”
  22. Said members of the “Fake News & totally dishonest Media” have “become crazed lunatics who have given up on the TRUTH!”
  23. Threatened to pull credentials of reporters who write “negative” stories about him while admitting he considers negative media coverage to be “Fake”: “91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?”
  24. Called for a federal investigation into “Saturday Night Live” after watching a rerun of an episode parodying him.
  25. Wondered why “the Networks get away with these total Republican hit jobs without retribution?”
  26. Tweeted that the “Fake News is the absolute Enemy of the People and our Country itself!”
  27. Unsuccessfully tried to rescind the press credentials of CNN journalist Jim Acosta.
  28. Said that he is “entitled” to have “great” stories published about him in the New York Times.
  29. Lauded Brazil’s authoritarian president for denouncing the “fake news.”
  30. Announced plans to boycottpresidential debates held by “Fake News Networks.”
 
Some dubious sources in that mega copy pasta.
But E for effort.
Let’s not forget the widespread concerted effort to suppress information or opinion about Covid and the draconian measures taken to suppress it’s spread (informed discussion, as well as the virus obviously). Many doctors in California had their medical license revoked simply because they told patients to keep an open mind about getting vaccinated.
The point being that whoever is in power can dictate the parameters of acceptable, discussion and coverage of actual events.

Transparency, what a concept.
 
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kflo said:
I am actually on the fence on this. One, there actually has to be crimes to prosecute. And 2 he may still be a bit cautious about what happens after his term. If he’s elected. He’ll for sure posture and use it as a political tool.

And note as of today I’m still likely going to vote for him. Even if I think he’s a bad person. :)
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If he is elected, ‘after his term” will be when he dies. There won’t be another election during Trump’s lifetime.

“Just this once, and you won’t have to vote again”. What do you think Donnie meant by that?

Ps, I hope you are white, because if Trump gets to disgrace the Whitehouse once again it isn’t going to be a nice place to be a visible minority.
 
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It's magical if you have no critical thinking skills. The Left Cult has is a willing target.
 
Yorick said:
Some dubious sources in that mega copy pasta.
But E for effort.
Let’s not forget the widespread concerted effort to suppress information or opinion about Covid and the draconian measures taken to suppress it’s spread (informed discussion, as well as the virus obviously). Many doctors in California had their medical license revoked simply because they told patients to keep an open mind about getting vaccinated.
The point being that whoever is in power can dictate the parameters of acceptable, discussion and coverage of actual events.

Transparency, what a concept.
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There were also people in The Bay at death's door on ventilators in the ICU with staff who were doing double shifts completely overrun and ice trucks with bodies stacked up in makeshift morgues. We don't see that too much now do we?

I'm more upset that doctors are facing jail for giving women a life saving abortion.
 
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Of course the mentally challenged skank gets slapped down again.

BREAKING: The judge overseeing Trump's Fulton County RICO case just ordered the dismissal of two criminal counts that were brought against Trump and one other count brought against the co-defendants. He found that Fani Willis did NOT have the authority to bring the charges given that she's not a federal prosecutor




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Fergelmince said:
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Of course the mentally challenged skank gets slapped down again.

BREAKING: The judge overseeing Trump's Fulton County RICO case just ordered the dismissal of two criminal counts that were brought against Trump and one other count brought against the co-defendants. He found that Fani Willis did NOT have the authority to bring the charges given that she's not a federal prosecutor




{<jordan}
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Two down...


THIRTY-TWO charges to go!


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