Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

[KnightTemplar]

It’s closer to being constitutional than what Trump did. The Constitution pretty clearly states that POTUS is commander in chief of the military. The Constitution gives no role to the POTUS, or even the Executive Branch, to the manner in which states run elections, count votes, and certify electors. Trump was just wayyy outside the scope of his presidential duties.

Now, I don’t think a POTUS can, or that Biden will, send a Tomahawk missile into Mar-A-Lago or something. But I do think it’s very irresponsible of SCOTUS to say that a President has immunity for some types of acts but not others—which seems painfully obvious anyway—but not define what constitutes official acts. That just opens the door to all manner of abuses.

IIRC, the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the Military on US soil except in very tightly defined cases, such as Nuclear Terrorism or Insurrection. So unless Trump is personally leading a militia armed with Nukes against Washington, DEVGRU can't give him the Full Bin Laden.

 

[Limit Smasher]

What a horrible week to be a libtard. Bidens now +450 in the betting odds. Lol

 

[Fergelmince]

Jack's smith illegal appointment is on the SCOTUS radar as well. This illegal appointment definitely needs to go the the Supreme Court.

Jack Smith's days are NUMBERED

 

[WhiteMousse]

Can someone post the Court's findings? I don't care what Twitter people say, or anyone's "So basically they're saying".

I want to read what the Supreme Court said.

 

[BFoe]

that's not what John Roberts said in the ruling.

Roberts didn’t really say one way or the other on his ruling.

Everything he did with regard to these "91 indictments" was constitutional. Regardless, both sides arguing what is and what is not constitutional will tie these ridiculous DOJ-sanctioned election interference cases up for decades.

Almost none of it was constitutional, I don’t see how anyone could really argue that it was.
The Constitution prescribes no role for the POTUS in the manner that elections are run, how votes are counted or not counted, how electors are chosen or certified. I think it would be quite easy for Smith or Fanni Willis to make a case as to why these acts were not official acts.

If they *are* official acts, then we are all in real trouble. All manner of election tampering would be legitimized.

Jack's smith illegal appointment is on the SCOTUS radar as well. This illegal appointment definitely needs to go the the Supreme Court.

Smith’s appointment is perfectly legal, and these types of arguments have been addressed time and time again. They challenged Robert Mueller’s appointment and failed, Nixon tries to refuse subpoenas from Archibald Cox and failed…

I don’t see anything in the Spec Counsel grounds that Harland didn’t meet, or anything in the qualifications that Smith doesn’t meet, or any way that Garland misused his authority under CFR 509, 510, or 515.

 

[BFoe]

Double post

 

[BFoe]

Can someone post the Court's findings? I don't care what Twitter people say, or anyone's "So basically they're saying".

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

 

[WhiteMousse]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opi

Thank you kind sir

 

[BFoe]

IIRC, the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the Military on US soil except in very tightly defined cases, such as Nuclear Terrorism or Insurrection. So unless Trump is personally leading a militia armed with Nukes against Washington, DEVGRU can't give him the Full Bin Laden.

Insurrection, you say?

But ultimately, who cares about a pesky ol law if you have immunity?

I think we end up at the same place: that sending a SEAL Team or a missile to assassinate a rival would be outside the scope of official duties in all but the most extreme of cases, and the same would be true with interfering in the manner that states count votes and certify electors.

How Trump would get around the fact that he tried to get Congress to certify electors which were not duly chosen and certified by the states under their laws is beyond me.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Everything he did with regard to these "91 indictments" was constitutional. Regardless, both sides arguing what is and what is not constitutional will tie these ridiculous DOJ-sanctioned election interference cases up for decades.

So the Trump Org indictments are constitutional because the guy became President? This ruling is pretty obvious, maybe it's the lower court's fault for not being more specific in their ruling, but Presidents have always had immunity for official acts. Like Biden's decisions on the border issue that have Republicans threatening him with prosecution, TR7MP's ordering the assassination of an Iranian General on foreign soil, Obama's Fast and Furious, Bush's WMD invasion of Iraq, etc... As far as his business fraud, coup attempt, the documents case, those are most definitely not official duties.

 

[AWilder]

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it's cool, some of us believe in our country over party/cult leader. you do you.

 

[AWilder]

Jack Smith's days are NUMBERED

Justice Thomas

 

[Seano]

it's cool, some of us believe in our country over party/cult leader.

Which of you believes that? Not sure I've ever seen them post here.

 

[AWilder]

Which of you believes that? Not sure I've ever seen them post here.

certainly not from your circle.

 

[KnightTemplar]

it's cool, some of us believe in our country over party/cult leader. you do you.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

The court isn't saying anything new......they just affirmed that you indeed cannot prosecute a president in criminal court for actions that fall within their constitutional powers. Which means 99% of the stuff they are trying to prosecute Trump for can no longer go forward.

cope and seethe

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Which of you believes that? Not sure I've ever seen them post here.

You must mean anybody then right? If this is meant to single out lefties on this forum this post is a massive fail.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I'm ten pages in and there's nothing in here that's revolutionary or changing anything about the law.

Why is everyone shitting themselves?

Thanks again @BFoe for getting me that link

 

[Err]

Everyone needs to relax.

 

[Seano]

certainly not from your circle.

And certainly not from yours, so step off the pedestal.