International Trump: 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian imports will start Tuesday, with ‘no room’ for delay

[Cartiac]

That's pretty much a far wordier version of what I said tbf.

You must not have read it. The ChatGPT response, same as you, makes a very absolute statement that broad tariffs increase supply chain costs without a benefit. Deepseek states that yes that CAN increase supply chain costs, "However, the broader context matters" and provides detailed examples of that broader context.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

You must not have read it. The ChatGPT response, same as you, makes a very absolute statement that broad tariffs increase supply chain costs without a benefit. Deepseek states that yes that CAN increase supply chain costs, "However, the broader context matters" and provides detailed examples of that broader context.

None of what it is calling broader context could be seen as a positive really though.

 

[Rod1]

Bingo!

Democrats: Charge corporations taxes just for doing business in the United States, making it much cheaper for them to export their business, jobs, vendors, and human rights out of the country.

Republicans: Charge corporations tariffs for importing goods they create from doing business outside of the United States making it much more expensive to export their business, jobs, vendors and human rights out of the country.

The motivations are clear.

Weird, why is the economy tanking then?

 

[avenue94]

Because targeted tariffs are not what the US is doing here.

 

[MrShady]

To all MAGA retards, let's take some bets.

Trumps tariffs toward Canada wont last more than 3 months. In fact, as early as a couple weeks I expect him to walk back on the numbers, claiming a "victory" of less fentanyl crossing the border despite it always being less than 1% that came in from the Canadian border.

Watch and see how weak your president really is.

 

[Seano]

Trumps tariffs toward Canada wont last more than 3 months.

Of course not. Its just hardball negotiation.

 

[Seano]

Stock market is trending up this morning.

 

[MrShady]

Of course not. Its just hardball negotiation.

We'll see who backs down first and makes concessions.

Of course Trump will paint it as a victory but we'll know what's what.

 

[Rod1]

ChatGPT's take:

"The new tariffs are a win for America because they prioritize American businesses, protect local jobs, and reduce dependence on foreign goods. By making imports more expensive, these tariffs encourage companies to invest in domestic manufacturing, leading to more job opportunities for American workers. They also strengthen national security by reducing reliance on foreign supply chains, ensuring that critical industries remain under U.S. control. Additionally, these tariffs send a strong message to countries like China and Mexico that America will not tolerate unfair trade practices. In the long run, a self-reliant economy makes the nation stronger and more competitive globally."

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What you all moaning about?

Anyone can ask ChatGPT a loaded question

Socialism is considered good by some for several reasons, depending on the values they prioritize. Here are a few key points often cited by supporters:

1. Economic Equality: Socialism aims to reduce income inequality by redistributing wealth and ensuring that everyone has access to basic needs like healthcare, education, and housing. This can help reduce the gap between the rich and the poor.
2. Universal Access to Essential Services: In a socialist system, services like healthcare, education, and social security are often publicly funded, ensuring that everyone, regardless of their financial situation, has access to these essential services.
3. Collective Ownership: Socialism promotes collective ownership of the means of production (factories, land, etc.), which can prevent large corporations from exploiting workers for profit. This idea is rooted in the belief that wealth should be generated for the benefit of society as a whole, not just for private owners.
4. Focus on Social Welfare: The welfare of the community is a top priority in socialism, aiming to ensure that no one is left behind. This can include things like worker protections, unemployment benefits, and a safety net for those in need.
5. Reduced Class Struggle: Socialism seeks to dismantle the class system by reducing the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few. Supporters argue that this leads to a fairer, more just society where everyone has equal opportunities.
6. Environmental Sustainability: Some forms of socialism advocate for a planned economy that is more conscious of environmental impacts, with resources managed in a way that prioritizes long-term sustainability over short-term profits.

 

[ChosenOne]

Apparently, I know more about it than you retards.

It's fun to see you choke on the actual numbers I provided.

Your numbers only mean something to someone stupid.

If tiny nation with valued resources (Sugar historically, oil today) has abundance and the America WANTS AND NEEDS those resources, then America will naturally buy a lot more from 'tiny nation' than the tiny nation will buy from America.


If America is buying 10X or more sugar or oil, for each citizen that tiny nation can find to buy of any US goods, because either they are smaller or a poor nation, then it is simply STUPID for you and the US to say we must punish 'tiny nation' and our own citizens on those goods WE NEED, because 'tiny nation' is not buying equivalently from us.


You position is a Trade imbalance is ALWAYS negative and it is NOT. If the US needs Oil or Sugar or any other commodity, and a tiny nation who cannot buy as much goods from the US is the best source, then of course the US benefits by buying from them.

But that is why Trump likes you, the 'poorly educated' as you read the above and yet cannot address it or even understand it.

 

[ChosenOne]

Like I said, Fentanyl is a North American issue. Not just a USA issue. There are fentanyl seizures at the border, its just comparing them to Mexico makes it seem insignificant. And, yes, I'm sure its going the other way as well. Its killing a lot of people but Americans disproportionately. We can't just continue to ignore it. Its a problem that will fester for your country eventually.

I don't know enough about trade with Canada to offer much opinion on the tariffs. Mexico isa different story. That country rapes us.

First off more fentanyl flows into Canada from the US then flows from Canada in to the US. So saying tariffs is an answer to this is stupid as then Trump should impose them on the US too.


And if you think Mexico 'rapes the US' in trade but do not know much about how such bad deals get executed why can you not learn from this post, that has been posted many times now, and why do you remain both baffled and ignorant here????


'We have big trade deficits with Canada... I look at some of the deals that were negotiated and wonder who the hell made these deals...'



Trump calling HIS DEAL, the USMCA he negotiated in 2016 .. "most significant, balanced trade agreement in history"





So Seano, this is an honest question. Can you follow the above? Can you understand it?

When you, Seano, say Mexico rapes the US, that is SOLELY because Trump put in place the 'best deal' that he now forgets he negotiated.

 

[ChosenOne]

^^ is it even possible that when @Seano reads a post like the above where he says he does not know something, he can actually learn from it?

Any bets on how many posts from now, Seano (and other magats) is again saying he does not know how the Mexico/US trade deal came about that 'rapes America' because they simply cannot reconcile their cult leader did something bad and wrong and thus push it out of their heads?

 

[ChosenOne]

Of course not. Its just hardball negotiation.

To what end?

To get the fraction of 1% of fentanyl that comes in to the US from Canada down to a fraction of a fraction of 1%?

Do you think that is a win and that Tariffs are the way to achieve that when more fentanyl comes in to Canada from the US then the other way around?

Do you think Trump could win the War on Drugs in inner cities by creating various economic wars with States?


It is only the stupidity of the poorly educated that thinks you can stop drug flows this way. YOU CANNOT. As long as their demand and pricing only goes up when harsh interventions are put in place, leading to more and more suppliers stepping in, you will NEVER win the war on drugs this way. NEVER.

Itis performative theater of the impotent Trump is doing for the 'poorly educated', and this will result in nothing but Trump claiming a hollow victory when nothing changes, as the poorly educated then clap like seals.

 

[koquerelle]

First off more fentanyl flows into Canada from the US then flows from Canada in to the US. So saying tariffs is an answer to this is stupid as then Trump should impose them on the US too.


And if you think Mexico 'rapes the US' in trade but do not know much about how such bad deals get executed why can you not learn from this post, that has been posted many times now, and why do you remain both baffled and ignorant here????


'We have big trade deficits with Canada... I look at some of the deals that were negotiated and wonder who the hell made these deals...'



Trump calling HIS DEAL, the USMCA he negotiated in 2016 .. "most significant, balanced trade agreement in history"





So Seano, this is an honest question. Can you follow the above? Can you understand it?

When you, Seano, say Mexico rapes the US, that is SOLELY because Trump put in place the 'best deal' that he now forgets he negotiated.

"Who the hell made those deals?"
You did, you fucking turd.

 

[evergreenrider]

To what end?

To get the fraction of 1% of fentanyl that comes in to the US from Canada down to a fraction of a fraction of 1%?

Do you think that is a win and that Tariffs are the way to achieve that when more fentanyl comes in to Canada from the US then the other way around?

Do you think Trump could win the War on Drugs in inner cities by creating various economic wars with States?


It is only the stupidity of the poorly educated that thinks you can stop drug flows this way. YOU CANNOT. As long as their demand and pricing only goes up when harsh interventions are put in place, leading to more and more suppliers stepping in, you will NEVER win the war on drugs this way. NEVER.

Itis performative theater of the impotent Trump is doing for the 'poorly educated', and this will result in nothing but Trump claiming a hollow victory when nothing changes, as the poorly educated then clap like seals.

After staking his flag in fentanyl and being proven wrong, he simply pivoted his flag point. Dishonest discussion and shifting of goalposts makes it an unwinnable venture

 

[Bubzeh]

Anyone can ask ChatGPT a loaded question

Socialism is considered good by some for several reasons, depending on the values they prioritize. Here are a few key points often cited by supporters:

1. Economic Equality: Socialism aims to reduce income inequality by redistributing wealth and ensuring that everyone has access to basic needs like healthcare, education, and housing. This can help reduce the gap between the rich and the poor.
2. Universal Access to Essential Services: In a socialist system, services like healthcare, education, and social security are often publicly funded, ensuring that everyone, regardless of their financial situation, has access to these essential services.
3. Collective Ownership: Socialism promotes collective ownership of the means of production (factories, land, etc.), which can prevent large corporations from exploiting workers for profit. This idea is rooted in the belief that wealth should be generated for the benefit of society as a whole, not just for private owners.
4. Focus on Social Welfare: The welfare of the community is a top priority in socialism, aiming to ensure that no one is left behind. This can include things like worker protections, unemployment benefits, and a safety net for those in need.
5. Reduced Class Struggle: Socialism seeks to dismantle the class system by reducing the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few. Supporters argue that this leads to a fairer, more just society where everyone has equal opportunities.
6. Environmental Sustainability: Some forms of socialism advocate for a planned economy that is more conscious of environmental impacts, with resources managed in a way that prioritizes long-term sustainability over short-term profits.

Hmm I don't know. I just asked it some questions about slavery and it wasn't happy with me and didn't give me what I wanted.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

So apparently Trump might be making exceptions for the auto industry. The unfortunate part of this flip flopping is companies are simply assuming the tariffs will be implemented. We may have a situation where prices go up even if tariffs aren't even put in place. Shit is ridiculous.