Hot Take The whole Aspinal thing was mental / another "my opinion" thread

[Trabaho]

It's not skill. It's not wrestling technique. Aspinal is in his head about his future goat status. Thinks Jon ducked him so his sloppy seconds will be another quick -3 minutes. He doesn't fight like anyone can win but like he will go out there and get the finish. No plan B. Manifest to blitz everyone. Overhype himself with videos and praise. He doesn't think anyone could win realistically and each fight is a chance but that he is the future goat and will go to boxing soon for milions. Works while it's easy. No champ was ever made from 2 minute knockouts. I don't think he considered suffering for it. When did he have a hard fight. I think after the Spivac fight is when he said how he is scared to go out there and get hurt. That is normal thinking. But he didn't overide it with I will sacrifice and be tough, endure to get those wins. I will be the baddest dog in the yard. Too much hype. After Jon ducks and the media come at his house and he is mentaly counting his boxing paychecks. This didn't entirely suprise me. He looked mentaly defeated. Cause it was a hard fight. Cyril was relaxed and crafty. Tom tried to make it quick and painless. He gassed himself out. Didn't expect getting hurt. His whole smiling and embrassing after his joke spin into no strike are all huge tells on nervousness. Tom gotta be business and anhilate, too proud to not fight trough. Sometimes you gotta want it and get it out the mud. His whole UFC career is one big bum rush into quick finish sequence. He did get dropped by Sergey and that's it. You need nerves to get these championship wins like Jon did. Jon was on the verge of defeat and always pushed trough, tried his best. As a result contrary to logic, by embracing the pain and suffering, Jon never got knocked out and only had 1 surgery. So facing the pain was more productive, brought less pain.
Now Tom is stuck with the world critisizing him and looking for alibis.
We all know he is great offensively. He took a knock down from Pavlovich and came back. Besides that he will seriously need to build resilience and battle test himself in longer bouts. We didn't even see much of his grappling. A big athletic guy who can overwhelm these people with speed power and skill. But what if they don't fall for it. This didn't look good. Win loss or draw I want to see him be preapered to lead a whole fight. It hurts more to go down in shame than to get tagged. Very little footage of him fighting trough anything. Even having full battles. Besides Cyril looked much more phisically impressive, I don't know where Tom gets his body % figures and co from. There are sharks. Cyril stood up to him. He blitzed everyone but a few chosen one can parry him. Not a good look to go on a huge media tour about your alleged eye injury and how you aren't happy with what the fans, fighters and UFC has to say about your fight. And now he is stalling the sport. Aspinal - Gane 2 will be big. Hope he can handle the nerves, Cyril could. Good luck Tom. Detach from social media, youtube videos, TV teams and embrace being a fighter, athlete, competitor. Nice that his Dad supports him but it's time to turn the cameras off and go for the meat.

 

[jeskola]

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

 

[Staph infection]

Tom is mentally weak, that is all. He could not use his size to bully his opponent so he took the cowards way out.

 

[VinceArch]

Come on, man. Paragraphs next time.

 

[AmericanMMA]

Tldr- Tom need to stop being bitch and man up

 

[oski]

 

[Trabaho]

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Guilty as charged

Tom is mentally weak, that is all. He could not use his size to bully his opponent so he took the cowards way out.

He is mentaly strong. He wasn't aware of his own power

 

[Trabaho]

Tldr- Tom need to stop being bitch and man up

Oh no. He is more man than us. We got no belt

 

[Trabaho]

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From Russia with love

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

alexa tldr this post

 

[Alpha_T83]

This Hot Take post trend is gonna be interesting.

How many days before we get to a "Hot Take" thread that Hendricks beat GSP?

 

[AmericanMMA]

Oh no. He is more man than us. We got no belt

I’m a Sherdog black belt. I would smash Tom.

 

[JakePaulMMA]

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Brilliant.

 

[TheStruggler]

So Gane was fading hella hard and hella fast, which is why he double eye fingered bangered Tom. Otherwise, if Gane was winning so easily as you jon jones fangurls keep insisting, then why did Gane resort to double eye fingered bangereding Tom then?

 

[Trabaho]

This Hot Take post trend is gonna be interesting.

How many days before we get to a "Hot Take" thread that Hendricks beat GSP?

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In case your dad forgot to tell you

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Tom is just brittle in every sense of the word. Might as well just hetire and cover his neck tat’s with a brace (never know when he’ll need an excuse) and abandon mma / trying to be a bad ass all together.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It's not skill. It's not wrestling technique.

What? Eyepokes? I agree, it's unskilled cheating.

Aspinal is in his head about his future goat status.

Good thing you're in his head to tell us what's in his head. This is projection in response to a vocal fandom and attributing it to the fighter himself. Trust me, as a Jones hater, I know a lot about how people respond in their feelings towards a fighter's following at the fighter themselves. Gotta separate it.

Thinks Jon ducked him

Knows it. We all do.

so his sloppy seconds will be another quick -3 minutes.

I don't think anything about Tom suggested that he was taking Gane like a walk in the park

He doesn't fight like anyone can win but like he will go out there and get the finish. No plan B.

Weird observation to make based on no evidence. We haven't seen his Plan A really get completely shut down.

Manifest to blitz everyone. Overhype himself with videos and praise.

Again, projection.

He doesn't think anyone could win realistically and each fight is a chance but that he is the future goat and will go to boxing soon for milions. Works while it's easy.

I could type "projection" over and over again for the whole post, but I will note for this bit that almost EVERY fighter comes in with the mindset that they will win. It's part of being extremely competitive. But again, nothing of what we saw is enough for you to make the blind proclamation that he doesn't think anyone can ever beat him. Does he pretend to be undefeated in the UFC or something? What are we all missing here that you hyper-tuned into?

No champ was ever made from 2 minute knockouts.

-Coleman's 6 fight run from professional debut to UFC champ averaged 4:33 a fight, with 4 of his fights ending before the 3 minutes mark

-Tim Sylvia's 15-0 run to capture the belt included 9 first round finishes. Only 3 of his fights didn't get finished in the first 2 rounds.

-Mir's path to gold included a single 2 round decision in his debut, then his next 7 wins, including for gold, were 6 first round finishes, and averaged 3:22.

-Arlovski won the belt on his 8th professional win, those fights averaging 2:13. Only one of his wins was out of the first round.

-Velasquez, won the belt at 9-0, 6 of which were first round victories and only 1 decision.

That's just heavyweight. And I've not even gone to the Pride days, like how many iconic champs and legends of old achieved most of their success from blitzes or immediate ferocity? Like Belfort and Wanderlei, or how Shogun's entire Pride run only had two fights get out of the 1st.

I don't think he considered suffering for it. When did he have a hard fight.

That's not an obligation to be champ. Even though it's much appreciated in GOAT's, it's not an obligation for them either.

I think after the Spivac fight is when he said how he is scared to go out there and get hurt. That is normal thinking. But he didn't overide it with I will sacrifice and be tough, endure to get those wins.

So he doesn't fight like he thinks he can't lose then? What an immediate contradiction.
So the normal thought of, "I don't want to get hurt," must be, in your mind, met with endurance of hurt, as opposed to going on the offensive? Because that must be the right answer?

He looked mentaly defeated. Cause it was a hard fight. Cyril was relaxed and crafty. Tom tried to make it quick and painless. He gassed himself out. Didn't expect getting hurt.

I skipped a bit of your post because this is getting too time consuming and I realize I won't do all of it, but I do want to address this ridiculousness specifically. I've said it 100 times(and I don't know how it isn't an obvious thing to people who have watched this sport for a while), but when you bust a fighter's nose, you're not fighting the same guy anymore. When someone's breathing gets obstructed, from the nose actually being broken, to even it just simply being filled with blood, it means you can't intake the same, your muscles aren't getting oxygen with the same efficiency. And that's not even mentioning the immediate energy dump you get from it. Imagine that a gas tank has 3 things happen to it simultaneously: 1) A large amount spills right away, 2) The entire can shrinks, so even the rest between rounds, you can't get it the same full you could before, and 3), it's got a hole in the bottom, so it's burning through the fuel faster.

It's incredible for us to claim to be able to see past those 3 things and say that on top of those, also he looked like he had quit in him.

It's a lot of projection.


I might get to the rest later, but probably won't.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

This Hot Take post trend is gonna be interesting.

How many days before we get to a "Hot Take" thread that Hendricks beat GSP?

Considering the amount of notorious shitthread posters we have here, I'm not optimistic about this tag's use.

 

[Trabaho]

What? Eyepokes? I agree, it's unskilled cheating.


Good thing you're in his head to tell us what's in his head. This is projection in response to a vocal fandom and attributing it to the fighter himself. Trust me, as a Jones hater, I know a lot about how people respond in their feelings towards a fighter's following at the fighter themselves. Gotta separate it.


Knows it. We all do.


I don't think anything about Tom suggested that he was taking Gane like a walk in the park


Weird observation to make based on no evidence. We haven't seen his Plan A really get completely shut down.


Again, projection.


I could type "projection" over and over again for the whole post, but I will note for this bit that almost EVERY fighter comes in with the mindset that they will win. It's part of being extremely competitive. But again, nothing of what we saw is enough for you to make the blind proclamation that he doesn't think anyone can ever beat him. Does he pretend to be undefeated in the UFC or something? What are we all missing here that you hyper-tuned into?


-Coleman's 6 fight run from professional debut to UFC champ averaged 4:33 a fight, with 4 of his fights ending before the 3 minutes mark

-Tim Sylvia's 15-0 run to capture the belt included 9 first round finishes. Only 3 of his fights didn't get finished in the first 2 rounds.

-Mir's path to gold included a single 2 round decision in his debut, then his next 7 wins, including for gold, were 6 first round finishes, and averaged 3:22.

-Arlovski won the belt on his 8th professional win, those fights averaging 2:13. Only one of his wins was out of the first round.

-Velasquez, won the belt at 9-0, 6 of which were first round victories and only 1 decision.

That's just heavyweight. And I've not even gone to the Pride days, like how many iconic champs and legends of old achieved most of their success from blitzes or immediate ferocity? Like Belfort and Wanderlei, or how Shogun's entire Pride run only had two fights get out of the 1st.


That's not an obligation to be champ. Even though it's much appreciated in GOAT's, it's not an obligation for them either.


So he doesn't fight like he thinks he can't lose then? What an immediate contradiction.
So the normal thought of, "I don't want to get hurt," must be, in your mind, met with endurance of hurt, as opposed to going on the offensive? Because that must be the right answer?


I skipped a bit of your post because this is getting too time consuming and I realize I won't do all of it, but I do want to address this ridiculousness specifically. I've said it 100 times(and I don't know how it isn't an obvious thing to people who have watched this sport for a while), but when you bust a fighter's nose, you're not fighting the same guy anymore. When someone's breathing gets obstructed, from the nose actually being broken, to even it just simply being filled with blood, it means you can't intake the same, your muscles aren't getting oxygen with the same efficiency. And that's not even mentioning the immediate energy dump you get from it. Imagine that a gas tank has 3 things happen to it simultaneously: 1) A large amount spills right away, 2) The entire can shrinks, so even the rest between rounds, you can't get it the same full you could before, and 3), it's got a hole in the bottom, so it's burning through the fuel faster.

It's incredible for us to claim to be able to see past those 3 things and say that on top of those, also he looked like he had quit in him.

It's a lot of projection.


I might get to the rest later, but probably won't.

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You think entirely like someone who hangs out in Sherdog UFC HW discussions