The UFC has zero intention of getting rid of eye pokes

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New gloves come in, then they are not used anymore and the old ones come back.

1,374,537th warning for eye poke without sanction

Fighters keeping their fingers extended all the time

There are many solutions. For example switch to Shooto type gloves, the 6 oz ones. Problem solved.

Or just have one damn seminar for the refs where they're told tolerance zero for eye pokes.

Or have any eye poke intentional or not be an automatic point deduction, after video verification.

But no just do nothing and ruin events
 
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I mean not much u can do other than make the rules really serious about it to really discourage fighters from having open hands out for feints and distancing.

But in reality. If someone stops u with an eyepoke. They kinda won the fight. If i'm in a real fight and the difference was having that inch or 2 more range to eyepoke someone without getting in range to get ko'ed.. Yea i'd take it. Unfortunately mma isn't completely a real fight cause sports got rules n stuff.
 
The UFC policy on eyepokes is laughable:
1st eyepoke - warning.
2nd eyepoke - stern warning.
3rd eyepoke - your final warning.
4th eyepoke - deduct a point if the other guy still has eyes, otherwise call it NC if the ref can't talk the fighter into continuing.
 
I mean not much u can do other than make the rules really serious about it to really discourage fighters from having open hands out for feints and distancing.

But in reality. If someone stops u with an eyepoke. They kinda won the fight. If i'm in a real fight and the difference was having that inch or 2 more range to eyepoke someone without getting in range to get ko'ed.. Yea i'd take it. Unfortunately mma isn't completely a real fight cause sports got rules n stuff.
As soon as you start talking about "real fight" you shouldn't be listened to
 
The only way to solve this is to really change up the gloves. Telling fighters to close their hands is really silly. Clenching your fist will tire out your shoulders and a long guard style defense relies on pushing away and sticking your hands/fist out.
 
The UFC policy on eyepokes is laughable:
1st eyepoke - warning.
2nd eyepoke - stern warning.
3rd eyepoke - your final warning.
4th eyepoke - deduct a point if the other guy still has eyes, otherwise call it NC if the ref can't talk the fighter into continuing.
imo it should be 1st eye poke - deduct 2 points
2nd eye poke - DQ

people just arent learning on this, the eye is very vulnerable and there is no excuse to open up your palm, these guys train for years in gym, do they do the same in their fighting gym? i doubt so they will get kicked out but the punishment arent harsh in UFC thats why fighters are doing this
 
Because the actual fighters in this shit, and we have a sample of nearly 200 fights now, simply don't let people put their fingers in their eyes.

I think between Khabib, Khamzat, Merab, GSP, Anderson, Islam and Fedor...

Combined they have suffered one (1) EYE-POKE!
 
Besides all the good ideas already mentioned, the UFC could release a fighter who keeps fouling fight after fight, but they probably never would.

Using replays, the commission could suspend and fine repeat offenders if the orgs can’t/don’t do anything. The same way they would in other sports.
 
The only way to solve this is to really change up the gloves. Telling fighters to close their hands is really silly. Clenching your fist will tire out your shoulders and a long guard style defense relies on pushing away and sticking your hands/fist out.
It doesn't take much to curl your fingertips in any glove, you don't have to strain. Extended fingers should only be used in grappling and defensive parrying. If you need to push someone's head while striking, use a fist. Extended fingers should never be used near the head. Extended fingers near the face with no foul, first a warning, then a point. Eye poke, point or DQ depending on severity/egregiousness. 2nd poke, automatic DQ.
 
It doesn't take much to curl your fingertips in any glove, you don't have to strain. Extended fingers should only be used in grappling and defensive parrying. If you need to push someone's head while striking, use a fist. Extended fingers should never be used near the head. Extended fingers near the face with no foul, first a warning, then a point. Eye poke, point or DQ depending on severity/egregiousness. 2nd poke, automatic DQ
im guessing you never actually put on a pair of ufc gloves. fighters used to do videos on them. frankie edgar had a good one. they give each fighter new gloves. they are stiff. they put ur hand in an open position by default. regularly used gloves dont have this problem.
 
The UFC policy on eyepokes is laughable:
1st eyepoke - warning.
2nd eyepoke - stern warning.
3rd eyepoke - your final warning.
4th eyepoke - deduct a point if the other guy still has eyes, otherwise call it NC if the ref can't talk the fighter into continuing.
New policy:

1st eyepoke - deduct a point
2nd eyepoke - You get demoted to the Cantender series after this fight
3rd eyepoke - you have to manually shovel all the snow onto Dana's vegas driveway
4th eyepoke - you have to swab the deck of Conor's yacht
 
New gloves come in, then they are not used anymore and the old ones come back.

1,374,537th warning for eye poke without sanction

Fighters keeping their fingers extended all the time

There are many solutions. For example switch to Shooto type gloves, the 6 oz ones. Problel solved.

Or just have one damn seminar for the refs where they're told tolerance zero for eye pokes.

Or have any eye poke intentional or not be an automatic point deduction, after video verification.m

But no just do nothing and ruin events
Unfortunately, this has been clear for a long time.
It's not their eyes that are being poked with fingers.


When they want to, they ask Commissions to change the rule immediately; just remember the case of Jon Jones with the 12-6 elbow strike allowed exclusively for his return.
 
im guessing you never actually put on a pair of ufc gloves. fighters used to do videos on them. frankie edgar had a good one. they give each fighter new gloves. they are stiff. they put ur hand in an open position by default. regularly used gloves dont have this problem.
So you can't make a fist or grab ahold of anything without much physical strain? That's not what Jim Miller was saying in his video.
 
If you're in a fight and you're feeling fatigued, the last thing you want to do is clench your fist and burn out your forearms and shoulders. If you've done any sort of Kickboxing or Muay Thai, what Gane is doing is what anybody with training will do if they need to stop people attacking or moving forward with a post/long guard position but unfortunately this type of defense with mma gloves leads to eyepokes.

The UFC needs better gloves and not nerfing certain fighting styles.
 
If you're in a fight and you're feeling fatigued, the last thing you want to do is clench your fist and burn out your forearms and shoulders. If you've done any sort of Kickboxing or Muay Thai, what Gane is doing is what anybody with training will do if they need to stop people attacking or moving forward with a post/long guard position but unfortunately this type of defense with mma gloves leads to eyepokes.

The UFC needs better gloves and not nerfing certain fighting styles.

What you're talking about totally different with 12 Oz gloves on. It's just about not being tense, relax yourself and learn when to be loose and when to be explosive.

I never did kickboxing or Muay Thai but I did boxing. And I can't remember having to extend my fingers through the gloves so that it relaxed my shoulders
 
Different gloves is the only solution. Eyepokes are like low blows, it's unavoidable, punishing it will not change anything and to be fair you can even argue that if the fight continues there shouldn't even be a point deduction, because if you say you can continue it implies your eyesight was not negatively affected, and if the poke was intentional or the vision is affected, then it should be a DQ.

Fighters who gloat about never poking anyone are not being honest imo, some styles are just more susceptible to poking, especially long guys who fight at range. If you're a short guy who fights in the pocket you hardly get the chance to poke.

You can't force someone to close their fist, you see it time and time again, they try and their hand just opens again, it's natural. Have a glove that curves the fingers down, it's the only way.
 
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