How to fix the UFC

[PaulieVegas27]

(1) Fire Dana
(2) Whatever else comes after that

 

[sakfjgadsyukgf]

I mostly agree, but they won't actually ever get rid of any of those divisions. As long as there are enough fighters to legitimately field female divisions and men's 125, the UFC will do it, bc if they don't, a competitor will. Before anyone laughs at that, Ronda wasn't in the UFC when she blew up, she still fought for Strikeforce, and was one of the main reasons Strikeforce blew up, and probably one of the reasons Zuffa bought Strikeforce (not bc Dana was interested in using her, bc he wasn't at the time, but bc if he owned Strikeforce they can no longer gain momentum that doesn't directly benefit the UFC).

The UFC, they could fill a women's 145 division with women legitimately found outside on the sidewalk and fans would still believe their division is better than a competitor's, even if it isn't. Just the existence of those divisions prevents a competitor from finding an angle that is perceived as something fresh, relative to the UFC, helps prevent potential for competitors to actually compete. If the UFC is the one keeping all of the standards, it makes it difficult for anyone else to find a fresh new angle that might get people interested. I think we need to get used to the idea that the only changes on the horizon for weight classes is probably more of them.

If they don't get rid of the surplus weight classes though, their product is just going to become slowly unwatchable. It's take drastic action now, or slowly decline over time. No one wants to watch 25 minute guaranteed decisions from men's flyweight, not to mention the women. Also not to mention the Dagestanis hugging every opponent to a decision on the ground. (I should've added- don't sign too many more fighters whose name ends in -ov unless they're a striker).

I do not agree that another promotion is going to somehow blow up with a fighter fans care about from WMMA or wherever. Even if they find 1, that fighter inevitably loses or retires. Ronda was generationally popular, no one else at women's 135 is relevant

 

[asdf122345]

• Get rid of men's flyweight. Sorry little dudes, maybe you can go fight in Asia or somewhere. They're too small and it looks bizarre, like we're having little kids fighting or something
• Get rid of every woman's division other than 115. Then try to actually make 115 better- sign prospects, slowly develop them over time, etc. I'm not as anti-WMMA as some people on here, but my God is women's 135 just absolutely eye-bleach awful. The skill level would be low even for regional MMA
• Once 115 is actually decent (like in 5-10 years), pick one new female weight class and slowly develop them. 105 or 125, I don't care. They can only fight on the prelims until they actually get decent (so probably another 10-15 years)
• Legalize knees to the head of a grounded opponent, and upkicks everywhere. Obviously
• Get rid of 5 round fights. This is the controversial one. Yes, championship fights are traditionally longer. But mostly make they for slow-paced decisions. Make everything 3 round fights, incentivize them to fight harder. It's a sport, the point is to entertain us. Attention spans are getting shorter
• Eye poke is an automatic point deduction

I could come up with more radical stuff (frankly I think they should merge light heavyweight & heavyweight), but those the are the common sense ones that we should adopt immediately

I agree with everything you said. This should help the UFC if they agree with the changes.

 

[STAY GOLD]

If they don't get rid of the surplus weight classes though, their product is just going to become slowly unwatchable. It's take drastic action now, or slowly decline over time. No one wants to watch 25 minute guaranteed decisions from men's flyweight, not to mention the women. Also not to mention the Dagestanis hugging every opponent to a decision on the ground. (I should've added- don't sign too many more fighters whose name ends in -ov unless they're a striker).

Ah, so you want more sloppy stand up brawls based off of this.

It’s funny folks always complain about grappling in MMA and expressing their desire for more stand up battles, but they don’t watch or support kickboxing. Even Glory struggled when they tried expanding to the US.

 

[Ares Black]

• Get rid of men's flyweight. Sorry little dudes, maybe you can go fight in Asia or somewhere. They're too small and it looks bizarre, like we're having little kids fighting or something

Lol no

• Get rid of every woman's division other than 115. Then try to actually make 115 better- sign prospects, slowly develop them over time, etc. I'm not as anti-WMMA as some people on here, but my God is women's 135 just absolutely eye-bleach awful. The skill level would be low even for regional MMA

No

• Once 115 is actually decent (like in 5-10 years), pick one new female weight class and slowly develop them. 105 or 125, I don't care. They can only fight on the prelims until they actually get decent (so probably another 10-15 years)

No

• Legalize knees to the head of a grounded opponent, and upkicks everywhere. Obviously

Yes

• Get rid of 5 round fights. This is the controversial one. Yes, championship fights are traditionally longer. But mostly make they for slow-paced decisions. Make everything 3 round fights, incentivize them to fight harder. It's a sport, the point is to entertain us. Attention spans are getting shorter

No

• Eye poke is an automatic point deduction

Yes

I could come up with more radical stuff (frankly I think they should merge light heavyweight & heavyweight),

No

but those the are the common sense ones that we should adopt immediately

No

 

[sakfjgadsyukgf]

Ah, so you want more sloppy stand up brawls based off of this.

It’s funny folks always complain about grappling in MMA and expressing their desire for more stand up battles, but they don’t watch or support kickboxing. Even Glory struggled when they tried expanding to the US.

I love wrestling. I think MMA should adopt the wrestling ruleset around stalling, in fact. Read more here https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...s-anti-stalling-rules-except-for-mma.4372903/

 

[Siver!]

The best way to "fix" the UFC is:

Have the Fight Night cards handled by a separate promotion.
--- This means the promotion actually works hard to promote the fighters it signs (or sometimes loans from the UFC if it needs a main event) rather than the UFC running a throwaway show at the fuckin' Apex every other week.
--- This means the show is on the road the whole damn time because this promotion's gotta make it's own money from grassroots events
--- This means there's actually a credible reason why random roster filler fighters aren't getting mega bucks - but that they could still graduate to a more serious level by winning a 'UFC proper' contract.
--- This also means that UFC fighters aren't playing it safe until they actually make it to the 'UFC proper'.

There shouldn't a single 'throwaway' show, EVER, every show should have deep significance and meaning beyond mere competition and storylines.

But you'd need a rule that mandated a 'Fight Night' after x amount of losses to stop lazy bastards like Colby rank-squatting and waiting for specific fights. No question Colby could make the UFC bank headlining a sold out Fight Night card in Florida - instead, the UFC let him wait to take the 4th or 5th fight on a PPV card (soon to be defunct) against an opponent he deems beatable. Fuck that.

 

[MaulingMyClown]

You have been a sherdogger since Aug 26, 2014, you have less than 500 posts and this is what you decide to post?!?! Holy hell

 

[daPROFESSOR]

Yellow cards for stalling
Faster stand ups for lnp like Islam and chimeav
Eye pokes are a point every time
Fence grabs are a point every time
1/3 pay for decisions except if there’s no blood, then 1/4 pay
Knees to grounded opponent
Wmma goes to invicta
10 minute rounds x3

 

[Bobby Boulders]

If they don't get rid of the surplus weight classes though, their product is just going to become slowly unwatchable. It's take drastic action now, or slowly decline over time. No one wants to watch 25 minute guaranteed decisions from men's flyweight, not to mention the women. Also not to mention the Dagestanis hugging every opponent to a decision on the ground. (I should've added- don't sign too many more fighters whose name ends in -ov unless they're a striker).

I do not agree that another promotion is going to somehow blow up with a fighter fans care about from WMMA or wherever. Even if they find 1, that fighter inevitably loses or retires. Ronda was generationally popular, no one else at women's 135 is relevant

Well, you can not agree, but it has already happened. There aren't exactly a ton of male fighters with Ronda's star power, either. It doesn't really happen often, but your sex organs don't really have a bearing on whether or not it does. Size doesn't either, else no one would have cared about 145 pound Conor. You're looking at most of this from a fan's standpoint, and they're not exactly invested in what fans want, especially long time ones. And that is bc...no matter what you want, you'll still probably watch the UFC, regardless of what they do. And if you don't, there are thousands of little kids behind you who are currently becoming fans of the UFC who don't understand your complaints and are completely satisfied with what they have.

 

[Prazeres]

Cut heavyweight, 90% of the good old heavyweight you are nostalgic about could have been fighting at 205

 

[Rdude92]

For me i only have one suggestion:

- Introduce BB scheme. BB = Blood bonus.
If you make your opponent bleed, you get a bonus. The more the merrier



This will introduce a whole lot of fun. Fighters will come in the press conferences with a new line of topic.
" Your pretty face? Its gonna get a new shade of red. 50Gs for a cut? Ill make red art out of ya"

" Your blood is gonna help me get my daughter to college. Nothing personal, just war, victims & pure business"

 

[fendertach]

50k finish incentives and send WMMA back to Invicta.

 

[prime_lobov]

Agree with a lot of what’s been said, but here’s an idea I haven’t seen floated: Force Jon Jones to pay rent for living inside people’s heads. This would help a lot of Sherdoggers out financially, and pay for some of Tom Aspinall’s eyedrops and tampons.

 

[Captain Herb]

Spin off Dagi wrestlers into their very own and wildly exciting promotion.

 

[VAfan]

agree about the eyepokes. the rest, not so sure.

 

[Lou Duva]

Start doing tournaments for each division couple divisions a year a la pride Grand Prix .. boom fixed

 

[snugglecakes]

(1) Fire Dana
(2) Whatever else comes after that

replace him with a high council of sherdoggers

 

[sakfjgadsyukgf]

replace him with a high council of sherdoggers

Do u think the UFC can handle that many giant alpha males all in one place tho. The fighters might be intimidated

 

[Ozze]

Ah, so you want more sloppy stand up brawls based off of this.

It’s funny folks always complain about grappling in MMA and expressing their desire for more stand up battles, but they don’t watch or support kickboxing. Even Glory struggled when they tried expanding to the US.

Reminds me of vegans that go to a stakehouse/barbecue restaurant and think they have the right to be pissed because the food is mostly meat, lol.