Social The left was right about almost everything in the 2000s

[Scheme]

Seems underdiscussed. As an Old, I was a liberal in the 2000s. Here's what we were right about:

• We said the war in Iraq & Afghanistan was a mistake. Crazy how almost everyone agrees with this now, including Trump & all the populists on the right. Who's still pro-Iraq war? Dick Cheney? David French?
• We said free trade (we called it 'globalization' then) was a mistake. The left was against NAFTA and China entering the WTO, those were always big Republican positions. Does anyone disagree these days?
• We said gay people should be able to marry each other. This was a super-controversial view in the 2000s. What's the approval rating on gay marriage now? Like 70%?
• We said weed should be legalized. This was always a big leftwing position. Today it's legal in 40 states medicinally- including super-red ones- and straight up legal in 24 states

The 'right' wing today is just the left from 20 years ago. Change my mind

Democrats voted unanimously in the Senate, the only people who didn't vote yes were 2 republicans, it was completely bipartisan and I don't completely blame them at a time where the country was attacked. In the house a single democrat voted against it. Democrats voted majority yes (republicans were almost unanimous) in the Senate for the Iraq War and were split 40-60% in the House.

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA.

Obama, the Clintons, and many on the left were against gay marriage. And republicans were definitely correct when they said it was a slippery slope. We went from "they just want to get married" to pre-teens being given puberty blockers for no health reason and men competing against women in women's sports.

Weed legalization is great, both in terms of freedom and reducing drug related gang violence. I do wonder if it has side effects of reducing productivity and having more people drive under the influence and more dangerous on the roads.

 

[Koro_11]

I don't post dicks nor whine about gay people all the time, you do. Just the fact that you equate someone with being gay cuz they've no issues with it gives the game away

Never once whined about gay people.

All I said was that when a man
puts on a dress he does not become a woman, that has nothing to do with homosexuality.

You’re a lying disingenuous turd, if you wanna challenge my position at least address what I actually said, of course you wont because your entire belief system is like a house of cards that would come crashing down the moment you tried to actually have an honest discussion.

 

[deviake]

Never once whined about gay people.

All I said was that when a man
puts on a dress he does not become a woman, that has nothing to do with homosexuality.

You’re a lying disingenuous turd, if you wanna challenge my position at least address what I actually said, of course you wont because your entire belief system is like a house of cards that would come crashing down the moment you tried to actually have an honest discussion.

You're pretty homophobic and obsessed with LGBT and you posted dick pics

 

[AC1D1K]

Clinton invented Nafta those wars lol were not a mistake it was a careful decision (no big bombs in USA rest of world boom Shaka laka) weed should be illegal drugs should come from drug dealers and gay marriage took time to become popular lmao you're kidding me .. it took time for a new idea to be accepted? Shocking ! Left wing idiot

 

[Madmick]

Clinton invented Nafta those wars lol were not a mistake it was a careful decision (no big bombs in USA rest of world boom Shaka laka) weed should be illegal drugs should come from drug dealers and gay marriage took time to become popular lmao you're kidding me .. it took time for a new idea to be accepted? Shocking ! Left wing idiot

The part about NAFTA and the WTO was the faceplant of an ignorant zoomer.

Characterizing liberals as the party of advocacy for marijuana legalization and gay marriage is not. They maintained the status quo for a long time, largely voting against these rights, too, but the most robust support and virtually all of the most vocal champions of marijuana & gay marriage legalization (as in the 90's) came from the left.

 

[Koro_11]

You're pretty homophobic and obsessed with LGBT and you posted dick pics

No dishonest bitch, I don’t have any phobias, I have no problem with gay people - more pussy for me, and LGB has nothing to do with T, no idea why you keep putting those in the same category… oh wait yeah I do, cause you’re a dishonest bitch and you’re too afraid to address my actual position.

 

[deviake]

No dishonest bitch, I don’t have any phobias, I have no problem with gay people - more pussy for me, and LGB has nothing to do with T, no idea why you keep putting those in the same category… oh wait yeah I do, cause you’re a dishonest bitch and you’re too afraid to address my actual position.

You're very emotional

 

[AZ103]

I’m European, and I don’t see Obama as left-wing at all. At most, I’d consider him a centrist, just look at his economic policies as proof of that.

You can label him however you want. In this country he represented the left wing. He labeled himself as such. Id agree he was piss poor at it but thats not really the point. He was the representative at the time this thread is describing.

 

[Koro_11]

You're very emotional

Not at all, just telling you what’s up matter of factly, and watching you dicktuck and prove my point for me.

 

[deviake]

Not at all, just telling you what’s up matter of factly, and watching you dicktuck and prove my point for me.

You've been homophobic just in this convo, that's why I don't take you cereally.

Of course you would see nothing wrong with it.

Being called gay doesn’t bother you because you are gay. Being called gay bothers me even less cause I’m not.

You’re the ones bringing up gayness while thinking about me, and if it wasn’t clear enough before I’ll tell you again I’m not gay and I’m not interested.

I see nothing wrong with it because there's nothing wrong with it, unless you disagree Mr. Totally fine with gay people.

And yes you are very emotional, as you just showed. You even posted dick pics when you had a psychotic break. Hilarious. And that atop you being a hateful moron is why I bully you.

My conservative coworker who is gay was very homophobic btw

 

[Koro_11]

You've been homophobic just in this convo, that's why I don't take you cereally.



I see nothing wrong with it because there's nothing wrong with it, unless you disagree Mr. Totally fine with gay people.

And yes you are very emotional, as you just showed. You even posted dick pics when you had a psychotic break. Hilarious. And that atop you being a hateful moron is why I bully you.

My conservative coworker who is gay was very homophobic btw

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means... I'm not afraid of anyone, least of all people attracted to the same sex, it invokes zero fear, only laughter.

I see the obvious thing that's wrong with it, the simple fact that nature did not intend for us to be that way because if we were gay we would go extinct as a species. That said, as with everything else there are always outliers, and it doesn't bother me that those people exist just as it doesn't bother me that people born without one arm exist. I have no hate for such people, but I can still acknowledge that it's not ideal and that something went wrong for that to happen. I wish both gay people and one armed people well, but I'm not gonna sit here and celebrate them or pretend that this is just as good as being straight or having both arms, because it's not.

Never posted a dick pic, stop being a dishonest bitch for once. I posted a gif of Buffallo Bill from silence of the lambs doing the dicktuck dance because the other dishonest bitch I was arguing with on that thread was dicktucking the argument, kinda like you're doing now.

So did you find out your conservative co-worker was gay when he finally let you blow him?

 

[cincymma79]

Leftists spawn Nazis.

To be fair his parents were covered in semen every day

 

[deviake]

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means... I'm not afraid of anyone, least of all people attracted to the same sex, it invokes zero fear, only laughter.

I see the obvious thing that's wrong with it, the simple fact that nature did not intend for us to be that way because if we were gay we would go extinct as a species. That said, as with everything else there are always outliers, and it doesn't bother me that those people exist just as it doesn't bother me that people born without one arm exist. I have no hate for such people, but I can still acknowledge that it's not ideal and that something went wrong for that to happen. I wish both gay people and one armed people well, but I'm not gonna sit here and celebrate them or pretend that this is just as good as being straight or having both arms, because it's not.

Never posted a dick pic, stop being a dishonest bitch for once. I posted a gif of Buffallo Bill from silence of the lambs doing the dicktuck dance because the other dishonest bitch I was arguing with on that thread was dicktucking the argument, kinda like you're doing now.

So did you find out your conservative co-worker was gay when he finally let you blow him?

Lmao




Funnily, you don't seem to know what it means but yes, I do think you're afraid of your own sexuality.

Yeah yeah, not homophobic, nothing wrong with being gay but you'll explain what's wrong with it, go extinct, yawn.

I don't actually know exactly what you posted, just heard the word on the streets and you never denied it and you get very butthurt about it. Plus, it's a fucking super weirdo thing to do.

It was very obvious he's gay. Repressed Christian, massive homophobe but was a little... you know. I know you know. You're a very repressed, sensitive, emotional guy. Probably why you're so angry. Well that and maybe a micro penis, I don't want to body shame though, you've enough insecurity

 

[Koro_11]

Lmao




Funnily, you don't seem to know what it means but yes, I do think you're afraid of your own sexuality.

Yeah yeah, not homophobic, nothing wrong with being gay but you'll explain what's wrong with it, go extinct, yawn.

I don't actually know exactly what you posted, just heard the word on the streets and you never denied it and you get very butthurt about it. Plus, it's a fucking super weirdo thing to do.

It was very obvious he's gay. Repressed Christian, massive homophobe but was a little... you know. I know you know. You're a very repressed, sensitive, emotional guy. Probably why you're so angry. Well that and maybe a micro penis, I don't want to body shame though, you've enough insecurity

Nice, can't even begin to formulate a counter argument so resort to:

1. post an acronym
2. follow up with a smiley emoticon
3. make another gay accusation
4. use typical internet troll lingo such as "butthurt"
5. make assumption about another man's penis size

Wow, a 2015 account, so you must be at the very least close to 30 years old now, and you can't even formulate a grownup counter argument, you still display the talking points of an elementary school kid.

I'm always happy to engage in a stimulating back n' forth, but for fuck sakes up your game a little, this is like wrestling with my 8 year old.

 

[deviake]

Nice, can't even begin to formulate a counter argument so resort to:

1. post an acronym
2. follow up with a smiley emoticon
3. make another gay accusation
4. use typical internet troll lingo such as "butthurt"
5. make assumption about another man's penis size

Wow, a 2015 account, so you must be at the very least close to 30 years old now, and you can't even formulate a grownup counter argument, you still display the talking points of an elementary school kid.

I'm always happy to engage in a stimulating back n' forth, but for fuck sakes up your game a little, this is like wrestling with my 8 year old.

You're not worth a remote amount of effort in discourse with, I just like fucking with you because you're an emotional, insecure, easily provoked, hateful weirdo

 

[Koro_11]

You're not worth a remote amount of effort in discourse with, I just like fucking with you're an emotional, insecure, easily provoked, hateful weirdo

Been here two decades son, dealt with much better trolls than you on a daily basis... even if you were the cream of the crop you couldn't invoke an emotional reaction out of me. Being as mediocre as you are the only thing you can induce is boredom... I think you're projecting, and you're grinding your teeth as you type your responses. Keep coming though, ever since that clown Yancy boy Mack got banned I've been in need of a new punching bag.

 

[deviake]

Been here two decades son, dealt with much better trolls than you on a daily basis... even if you were the cream of the crop you couldn't invoke an emotional reaction out of me. Being as mediocre as you are the only thing you can induce is boredom... I think you're projecting, and you're grinding your teeth as you type your responses. Keep coming though, ever since that clown Yancy boy Mack got banned I've been in need of a new punching bag.

Yet you're still replying

 

[HereticBD]

Reality has a leftwing bias.

How's that working for ya these days?

 

[Koro_11]

Yet you're still replying

Did you miss the last sentence of my post? I need a new punching bag ever since that other clown got banned, and you seem to be perfect for that role.

 

[deviake]

How's that working for ya these days?

Excellent

Did you miss the last sentence of my post? I need a new punching bag ever since that other clown got banned, and you seem to be perfect for that role.

Trying to take the power back, that's adorbs