Economy The great housing market crash of 2022

What’s been said is that unlike 08, this isn’t an over supply for the under qualified. This is about affordability mixed with supply.
Hopefully it bounces back faster than 08, but that depends on the job market as well. No jobs and high rates and you won’t see anyone buy
Agreed.

Prices will stay relatively high just due to the supply being low. If they dip even a significant amount investors will just come back in and buy the houses back up (endless supply of cash and don't have to worry about interest rates).

Some articles are talking about the job marketing tanking and foreclosures happening but that's not really how you want home prices to fall (if the economy crumbles and people are unemployed then there's going to be more issues than "getting a house 40k cheaper").
 
What’s been said is that unlike 08, this isn’t an over supply for the under qualified. This is about affordability mixed with supply.
Hopefully it bounces back faster than 08, but that depends on the job market as well. No jobs and high rates and you won’t see anyone buy
Yeah, '08 was a entire different beast and only the start of the crash. In fact in '07 the housing market was already coming down. Even in '08 it wasn't a crash yet. It wasn't until later in 09' and then the dip in '10 where homes just plummeted and stayed low between '10-12. Also not only did the underqualified who got subprime mortgages lose their homes, but many homeowners who were underwater purposely went into default so they wouldn't have to pay a mortgage on a home that was worth 50% of what they bought it for. Also some filed for bankruptcy so they basically got to live in their home for free for months or even over a year without repercussions until their home short sell/foreclosed.

There was of course some areas that were hit worse then others and even some locations like San Jose/Santa Clara, CA or Hawaii that only saw a modest decrease in home value in many neighborhoods and shorter duration of the dip. I lived in Sacramento, CA at the time and the market plummeted there. I bought my home in Q3 '08. I thought I got a pretty good deal at the time, but even my home saw a 40% decrease at the bottom in '10-11 and it wasn't until late '12 that we saw home prices starting to come up. Those that bought in 05' probably saw a 50-60% decrease in home value especially in the cookie cutter tract housing neighborhoods. The established highly desirable neighborhoods wasn't hit nearly as hard.
 
Well, we in europe too have some " bubble ".
In order to help to battle with covid impact on economy ....central banks lowered key base rate...
While looks that private banks used opportunity ....in order to pump up mortgage business investments again.

A bit resembles 2006/2008 prices boom up period...
 
Serious question: his son likely didn’t want this war he was in bed with both Ukrainians and Russians

corrupt oligarchs connected to the energy industry. Who is making bank right now? The energy industry. I think his “associates” are in favor of this conflict
 
Like I said at the beginning of this thread... there's' nothing I'd like more than a housing crash. But I know from all the competition I've faced, there's tons of people just like me wanting the same thing.... and that's why there won't be one (at least not anytime soon). When unemployment starts to go up, we'll see.
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That 400 million invested by Zuckerberg was a great investment!
 
Housing prices are actually going to continue to climb in some markets when you incorporate the interest rates.

The crash will hit places like TX, AZ, ID, FL etc.

States like Oregon or Washington will just continue to be stupid because there's no profit to be made as a builder and they are being flooded by transplants from a state with over 40 million people in California. It's a supply and demand thing that's going to get worse. The more white folks in CA that sell their million dollar homes to get away from the mess CA is, the more they destroy the markets wherever they go. They're like locusts on the Oregon coasts, Bend or Spokane.


Yeah, but I see more Oregon and Washington plates than California plates.
 
Yeah, but I see more Oregon and Washington plates than California plates.

The only place you're going to see more WA and OR plates than CA plates is in WA and OR outside of border towns in ID.
The population of CA is almost 4 times that of OR and WA combined.
 
The only place you're going to see more WA and OR plates than CA plates is in WA and OR outside of border towns in ID.
The population of CA is almost 4 times that of OR and WA combined.
We use to count CA plates here in NV. Yeah, we had to stop lol. There's to many to count now.
 
The only place you're going to see more WA and OR plates than CA plates is in WA and OR outside of border towns in ID.
The population of CA is almost 4 times that of OR and WA combined.


They are everywhere in the Treasure Valley. California ruined OR/WA and now those states flock to ruin ID. Traffic is already bad. And now Boise has homeless advocates. Please God no.
 
Just bumping this with the Dow below 30k today.

Oh, while rumors now stirring that the housing market is about to be rocked. And just watch, it is going to start with the market cooling, and then as people cannot pay their mortages, the foreclosures will follow. This all just getting started





Probably blows in December. The Fed is doing what it can before the elections also the energy issue will only get really bad in the cold months. Also I hope China goes for Taiwan in December catching the Biden satanic admin off guard and causing the needed biblical collapse!
 
Was going to post this in the ongoing GOP back to inflation worry thread, but now that the inflation IS here and it is now really starting to metastasize, which is now highlighted with the US economy actually now shrinking. So, I wanted to make a new thread.

But as I mentioned several times in that thread, there was primary inflation for over a year now, starting with gas prices, along with raw materials, which then slowly goes to housing. Then slowly trickles in to grocery stores that initial just ate cost increases hoping it would be transitory, avoiding noticable increases in price. But then after food supply and whole salers can no longer hold out, it then comes to the service industry and other sectors that did not initially feel the inflation.

And as I posted in that thread a few weeks ago, even now, Producer Price Inflation was still exceeding Consumer Price Inflation, so naturally the rise is only going to continue to rise, if not accelerate.

Part of this was also being covered up last year, hiding how truly damaged the economy is. Keep in mind, there was a federal stay on Foreclosures. This ended in Sept of last year I believe, and now we are seeing a truly disturbing trend.

Just look at this headline from Bloomberg about foreclosures in January:

Foreclosure filings such as default notices, scheduled auctions or bank repossessions jumped 29% from a month earlier and more than doubled compared with January 2021, the report said. Lenders repossessed 4,784 properties in the month and started the process on another 11,854 homes.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-rose-in-january-after-end-of-pandemic-freeze

Look how they call 11,854 homes a "surge". Fast forward to March numbers, and it is triple that.

Last month, 33,333 properties across the U.S. faced foreclosure, a 181 percent jump from March 2021 and 29 percent pop from February, according to a report by foreclosure tracker Attom. The first quarter saw 78,271 properties with a foreclosure filing, a 39 percent from the previous quarter and 132 percent from last year.


https://www.wfla.com/news/national/foreclosures-surge-181-to-highest-levels-since-march-2020/





What is even more so worrisome is that there was this freeze. So the people who were not having to pay mortgage payments during this time, well they were not making enough to save for when the freeze was lifted... why? Because of inflation.

Anyways, just like with the housing crash of 2008, a stock market crash coincided as well, and it seems after having a lot of volatility and being artifically propped up throughout COVID. Just a few months ago, the Dow was over 36500, now it is under 33000, dropping over 3500 points, in addition to the drop this past Friday. Perhaps not coincidentally, the sell offs are rivaling 2008





When exactly did they lift the no eviction and foreclosure rule?
 
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