Crime Texas: Two fat hillbillies kill a Father over garbage

[DespicablePeep]

I guess in the end this was a good things, they shot a fellon and the killers will be jailed for a good time.

World was freed of 3 assholes.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

You make it sound like Paw and Junior were painted into a corner like a pitbull with no way out.

If “retreat” is considered so emasculating then why bother even having law enforcement at all?

Oh yeah, to clean up the mess when someone gets shot over proper mattress disposal.

You mean 'improper'.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

You mean 'improper'.

Either would work but thanks for playing.

 

[D Train]

News story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/crim...over-mattress-man-said-then-he-was-shot-dead/

This takes the cake. this is the most senseless, unnecessary death you will see. Everyone involved was an idiot. The man that was shot appeared to pull out a baseball bat after screaming at the armed hillbillies, you can tell because in the full video he throws the baseball bat after the two pistol shots.

In a way it's hard to not say it was self defense...the guy drew a baseball bat and said he would kill them.

Anyways I am using this to soap box on gun owners. It is very obvious to me that some gun owners think that buying some 300$ EC9 or mossberg shockwave that they are now powerful. This is merely an observation of mine. I have bought 10+ guns in the last year, I am around gun nuts all the time because shooting is fun. I am just observing this commonality in the community. One of my friends texted me "I feel so powerful" after he bought his first ar15. I was disturbed because even if he was joking that isn't something I would even think to say because it's weird as fuck.

This video in particular has kind of fucked me up. Last week I was walking my dog and some lady on the path started ordering me off the path because my dog was "going to attack her". She was crazy. I just ignored her because why would I entertain that? Ego. I should have just complied.

Instead I just ignored her and held my dog's leash tighter. When I was within 10 feet or so she bladed her stance and put her hand on her hip like she was about to draw on me. All I said to her was "you are not about to shoot my dog". She did not do anything, because obviously she was just trying to intimidate me to do what she wanted. I can't help but feel like she thought the fact that she was armed meant she could get me to do what she wanted.

In the video you hear the now deceased man ordering the two fat fucks what to do, "go back inside and put the gun away" when he himself could have done the exact same thing.

I understand why gun owners are viewed so negatively now.

If a man threatened to kill you then attacked you with a baseball bat, you wouldn’t have shot him?
I’m not saying this couldn’t have deescalated, but they were attacked.

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

The links in the post just above the post you just quoted, said the cops were called and the dispatchers were so busy, they weren't able to answer.

You originally said that was in the second link but when I clicked I couldn't see that info. Whereabouts is it?

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

You make it sound like Paw and Junior were painted into a corner like a pitbull with no way out.

If “retreat” is considered so emasculating then why bother even having law enforcement at all?

Oh yeah, to clean up the mess when someone gets shot over proper mattress disposal.

They seem to be saying that you just have to make that emasculating retreat when threatened with a firearm.

Anyone who disobeys a direct order from the Well Regulated Militia is fair game.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

They seem to be saying that you just have to make that emasculating retreat when threatened with a firearm.

Anyone who disobeys a direct order from the Well Regulated Militia is fair game.

Paw and Junior should be more concerned with a Well Regulated Diet.

Maybe then a swift retreat would have been an option.

That baseball bat could have been deadly.

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

If a man threatened to kill you then attacked you with a baseball bat, you wouldn’t have shot him?
I’m not saying this couldn’t have deescalated, but they were attacked.

What is your stance on them twice taking the mattress out of the bin and placing it on his property, then ordering him to remove it the third time?

 

[Patrick Carey]

If a man threatened to kill you then attacked you with a baseball bat, you wouldn’t have shot him?
I’m not saying this couldn’t have deescalated, but they were attacked.

"In a way it's hard to not say it was self defense...the guy drew a baseball bat and said he would kill them."

I guess I didnt word it the best but from where I stand it's clearly self defense

 

[D Train]

What is your stance on them twice taking the mattress out of the bin and placing it on his property, then ordering him to remove it the third time?

Oh those dudes were jackwads for sure. Everyone in that fiasco was wrong. But the man threatened to kill them then attacked them with a weapon. Whatever dumbass decisions led to that point are irrelevant when he tried to kill them.

 

[lifelessheap]

Jesus Christ.

The point of a punch isn’t to mortally wound someone, hell throwing a bat isn’t PROBABLY going to do any serious damage. It is possible, but unlikely.

Shooting a shotgun at another mans face, is purely to mortally wound them.

Self defense states you can use as much force as you feel threatened by, if anything orange shirt has the self defense plea but he’s dead.

Hmmm, in my town a 19 year old guy tried to talk two guys out of fighting and sadly was punched for it. He hit his head on the ground and died.

My wife's friend from high school tried to break up a fight and was mistakenly hit with a baseball bat. He died.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Here is the original post being quoted. Gave up looking for the original post. Page 14.

Moonpie said: ↑
What a shite show.
Maybe the po-po were just fed up with dealing with this guy? When the call came in it was Oh Its Crazy Orange Shirt. Again. For the eleventythousnadth time. We will go over there later.

On this note, by the time I walked into Dispatch 9-1-1 in response to this violence, I noticed all of our telecommunicators were emotionally impacted. They were simply overwhelmed. Between 7 am this morning and noon, they have received 255 calls, including a possible self-inflicted death investigation, on top of the murder. In 45 minutes alone, they handled 57 calls, and they simply ran out of officers, adding to their stress.

 

[The Sole Survivor]

If a man threatened to kill you then attacked you with a baseball bat, you wouldn’t have shot him?
I’m not saying this couldn’t have deescalated, but they were attacked.

Its sad you make assumptions without knowing the full story, to which i posted the link on here or can even be googled. The man who was killed threw away a mattress where it legally should go, the douches with the guns took it out of the trash and threw it on his property(lawn), man who was killed told him to grab it and throw it away... He didnt and pulled out a gun... After also killing the man he and his fat ass son pinned the mans brother and wife down with guns to their heads right as the cops showed up to stop it...

"Box said John Miller walked up to her and put the handgun to her head, yelling at her to get on the ground. She said Michael Miller went over to Aaron’s brother, placed the shotgun to his head, and ordered him to the ground."


“We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box said. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”
On the morning of Sept. 1, Box and Howard were in the backyard when they saw the mattress was on their property. Howard tossed it back in the dumpster.
Box said that’s when John Miller came to the alley, pulled the mattress out of the dumpster and tossed it back on Howard’s property.
Howard told Miller to put it back in the dumpster. Miller cursed at Howard and told him he wasn’t going to do that, Box said.
“That’s when John (Miller) pulled a pistol out of his shorts,” she said. Box noted that Howard’s nieces and nephews had been with them in the backyard.
“Aaron goes into pappa bear mode,” Box said. “A man has just pulled a gun on his wife, his brother, his nieces and nephews.”
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article218728710.html

These fat fucks are going to jail for life for killing a man for doing nothing wrong but trying to protect his family after a gun was pulled on them for a confrontation they didnt start.

 

[Slick_36]

Its sad you make assumptions without knowing the full story, to which i posted the link on here or can even be googled. The man who was killed threw away a mattress where it legally should go, the douches with the guns took it out of the trash and threw it on his property(lawn), man who was killed told him to grab it and throw it away... He didnt and pulled out a gun... After also killing the man he and his fat ass son pinned the mans brother and wife down with guns to their heads right as the cops showed up to stop it...

"Box said John Miller walked up to her and put the handgun to her head, yelling at her to get on the ground. She said Michael Miller went over to Aaron’s brother, placed the shotgun to his head, and ordered him to the ground."


“We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box said. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”
On the morning of Sept. 1, Box and Howard were in the backyard when they saw the mattress was on their property. Howard tossed it back in the dumpster.
Box said that’s when John Miller came to the alley, pulled the mattress out of the dumpster and tossed it back on Howard’s property.
Howard told Miller to put it back in the dumpster. Miller cursed at Howard and told him he wasn’t going to do that, Box said.
“That’s when John (Miller) pulled a pistol out of his shorts,” she said. Box noted that Howard’s nieces and nephews had been with them in the backyard.
“Aaron goes into pappa bear mode,” Box said. “A man has just pulled a gun on his wife, his brother, his nieces and nephews.”
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article218728710.html

These fat fucks are going to jail for life for killing a man for doing nothing wrong but trying to protect his family after a gun was pulled on them for a confrontation they didnt start.

But he had a history of anger and criminal charges, so killing him is justified. Right?

 

[The Sole Survivor]

But he had a history of anger and criminal charges, so killing him is justified. Right?

Over 9000 percent correct. Criminal charges? What? He deserves to be nuked! -end sarcasm-

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

Here is the original post being quoted. Gave up looking for the original post. Page 14.

Moonpie said: ↑
What a shite show.
Maybe the po-po were just fed up with dealing with this guy? When the call came in it was Oh Its Crazy Orange Shirt. Again. For the eleventythousnadth time. We will go over there later.

On this note, by the time I walked into Dispatch 9-1-1 in response to this violence, I noticed all of our telecommunicators were emotionally impacted. They were simply overwhelmed. Between 7 am this morning and noon, they have received 255 calls, including a possible self-inflicted death investigation, on top of the murder. In 45 minutes alone, they handled 57 calls, and they simply ran out of officers, adding to their stress.

I appreciate you looking that back up again. However although that post is a damning indictment of the 2018 USA, it does not support your original statement.

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

Oh those dudes were jackwads for sure. Everyone in that fiasco was wrong. But the man threatened to kill them then attacked them with a weapon. Whatever dumbass decisions led to that point are irrelevant when he tried to kill them.

Location and signature fit.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I appreciate you looking that back up again. However although that post is a damning indictment of the 2018 USA, it does not support your original statement.

Find the original post. It is in there. That second part is from a statement from the police department, explaining why the call was missed.

It's all good if you don't want to look, but I stand by the claim.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Its sad you make assumptions without knowing the full story, to which i posted the link on here or can even be googled. The man who was killed threw away a mattress where it legally should go, the douches with the guns took it out of the trash and threw it on his property(lawn), man who was killed told him to grab it and throw it away... He didnt and pulled out a gun... After also killing the man he and his fat ass son pinned the mans brother and wife down with guns to their heads right as the cops showed up to stop it...

"Box said John Miller walked up to her and put the handgun to her head, yelling at her to get on the ground. She said Michael Miller went over to Aaron’s brother, placed the shotgun to his head, and ordered him to the ground."


“We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box said. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”
On the morning of Sept. 1, Box and Howard were in the backyard when they saw the mattress was on their property. Howard tossed it back in the dumpster.
Box said that’s when John Miller came to the alley, pulled the mattress out of the dumpster and tossed it back on Howard’s property.
Howard told Miller to put it back in the dumpster. Miller cursed at Howard and told him he wasn’t going to do that, Box said.
“That’s when John (Miller) pulled a pistol out of his shorts,” she said. Box noted that Howard’s nieces and nephews had been with them in the backyard.
“Aaron goes into pappa bear mode,” Box said. “A man has just pulled a gun on his wife, his brother, his nieces and nephews.”
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article218728710.html

These fat fucks are going to jail for life for killing a man for doing nothing wrong but trying to protect his family after a gun was pulled on them for a confrontation they didnt start.

Lol, you believe the lady who was egging this guy on to get shot, and got engaged to a guy with over 200 arrests?

I believe what my eyes saw, which is that orange shirt was a threat to almost anyone he encountered.

I hope that lady and her brother know they got him killed. Brother handed him the bat, and his fiance was egging him on.

 

[The Sole Survivor]

Lol, you believe the lady who was egging this guy on to get shot, and got engaged to a guy with over 200 arrests?

I believe what my eyes saw, which is that orange shirt was a threat to almost anyone he encountered.

Goodbye troll, ignore list.